Doc Bud's High Brix Q&A With Pictures
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Thanks DrZ
but I think 11/13 from seed for indica or a hybrid is to little light for vegging them.
I tend to get bud rot on those thick single colas
I will be checking them every few days
my normal veg is 16-18 hrs and then 12/12 reducing by 15 min/week after buds set in.
OR the infamous GLR mwahaha
these plants have zero lower waste, but not enough lower open for airflow.
but I think 11/13 from seed for indica or a hybrid is to little light for vegging them.
I tend to get bud rot on those thick single colas
I will be checking them every few days
my normal veg is 16-18 hrs and then 12/12 reducing by 15 min/week after buds set in.
OR the infamous GLR mwahaha
these plants have zero lower waste, but not enough lower open for airflow.
Doc, I think you may have missed my post since we posted at about the same time.
To summarize, I'm struggling with the instructions. Again. For the rescue drench:
Maybe it's just me, but this confuses me. Usually you are making reference to six plants, but here I believe this is in reference to a single plant since you switched to "per gallon of water". I water my plant with five gallons usually. Does this mean I use five ounces of Transplant with 6 mils of Tea? I assume the Tea remains static at 6 mils no matter the amount of water?
Also needed clarification FOR NORMAL FEEDINGS (not related to the rescue) how much water you use. Do I remember you said to water until there is 20% runoff and if so, is that with every watering, drenches and straight water waterings?
Thanks Doc.
To summarize, I'm struggling with the instructions. Again. For the rescue drench:
Maybe it's just me, but this confuses me. Usually you are making reference to six plants, but here I believe this is in reference to a single plant since you switched to "per gallon of water". I water my plant with five gallons usually. Does this mean I use five ounces of Transplant with 6 mils of Tea? I assume the Tea remains static at 6 mils no matter the amount of water?
Also needed clarification FOR NORMAL FEEDINGS (not related to the rescue) how much water you use. Do I remember you said to water until there is 20% runoff and if so, is that with every watering, drenches and straight water waterings?
Thanks Doc.
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For the rescue drench you're using 1 oz Transplant and 6mils Tea PER GALLON of water. So, if you're using 5 gallons, that's 5 oz. Transplant and 30mils Tea.
As for watering, if you're top watering, slowly moisten the soil until you get liberal runoff. Saturate the medium.
However, for a while now I've been using large saucers and I now put 1/3 to 1/2 gallon of water slowly down the top and the rest in the saucer so it can wick upwards. Using this technique, I use 1 to 1.5 gallons of drench per plant. Seven gallon containers.
I hope that answers you questions.
Yes, that answers those questions. Much appreciated. Was worried about using too much, but I see that was unfounded.
Regarding your watering technique, I've somewhat stumbled upon the same thing myself. I can water slow until I get runoff, but I notice if I put some in my big saucer, the pot will still take up another gallon or slightly less after about 10-15 minutes. So, I thought that meant it was needed and have been doing it that way.
One more while I have you. I have a clone I used for sexing this plant and I've allowed it to bloom. I see a few of these "clusters" on the buds. Anything to worry about? This damn thing has been in flower for more than three months and the trichs are still clear.
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Yes, that answers those questions. Much appreciated. Was worried about using too much, but I see that was unfounded.
Regarding your watering technique, I've somewhat stumbled upon the same thing myself. I can water slow until I get runoff, but I notice if I put some in my big saucer, the pot will still take up another gallon or slightly less after about 10-15 minutes. So, I thought that meant it was needed and have been doing it that way.
One more while I have you. I have a clone I used for sexing this plant and I've allowed it to bloom. I see a few of these "clusters" on the buds. Anything to worry about? This damn thing has been in flower for more than three months and the trichs are still clear.
that's a very pretty plant, male flowers and all. Those are "nanners." Do you see a bunch of seeds anywhere? If not, they're probably sterile and a result of the long bloom time.
Yes , we are supposed to use straight water between Drenches just so ya know OK. The original "kit" instructions say to water with plain water , nothing else. These instructions have been amended somewhat as over the last couple yrs. growers have been finding out that giving 1/4 Transplant with each and every watering was favourable but there is still nothing wrong with watering with straight H2O between Drenches. My 4 plants over at my journal just received a big drink of ya ,...you guessed it , straight water , no Trans, no Tea just water. Think about it people....ya just can't keep piling on the goodness with this and that,...sometimes it's wise to let things calm down a bit and not over feed with all our "kit " ingredients. Cheers Gang!
medmanmike
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Doc, (tried posting this a few minutes ago and got "protocol error" and it didn't seem to take. Apologizes if this shows up twice!)
Regarding the 'bud wash' - How long will the h2o2 and lemon juice/baking soda solutions last/stay fresh? I'm in the middle of a two week harvest window and it seems wasteful to make up a new batch every few days for a plant or two. Thanks!
Regarding the 'bud wash' - How long will the h2o2 and lemon juice/baking soda solutions last/stay fresh? I'm in the middle of a two week harvest window and it seems wasteful to make up a new batch every few days for a plant or two. Thanks!
medman, the H2O2 is added/used only if you have a P.M. issue.
depending on size of your plant, you can (I would) make smaller batches, fresh when needed.
a pitcher, a bus bin, a kit pot, etc..
I wouldnt wash produce in unused stored wash liquids. just say'n.
depending on size of your plant, you can (I would) make smaller batches, fresh when needed.
a pitcher, a bus bin, a kit pot, etc..
I wouldnt wash produce in unused stored wash liquids. just say'n.
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I fully concur with Dr. Ziggy!
It's a redux chemical reaction. Once everything is reacted, the cleaning ability of the first bucket is reduced greatly.
I put the baking soda in first, stir it till it dissolves, and right before I put the first buds in I add the lemon juice. Washing a plant takes maybe 5 minutes, after which time I discard the lemonjuice/soda bucket.
medmanmike
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I kinda thought the same thing.
Doc, somewhere along the line - and I was sure it came from you - I made a note that the H2O2 solution was now standard practice, not just IF there's PM. Must have gotten that wrong, yes?
Zigs, one step ahead of you bro', here's my solution to your suggestion for a smaller container:
I used a piece of leftover 4" PVC, 30" in length. I capped it with a $2.50 'plug' from Lowes. It holds exactly 1 ½ gal. of liquid and will, obviously, accommodate those long donkey dongs that m growing
Thanks all
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I kinda thought the same thing.
Doc, somewhere along the line - and I was sure it came from you - I made a note that the H2O2 solution was now standard practice, not just IF there's PM. Must have gotten that wrong, yes?
Zigs, one step ahead of you bro', here's my solution to your suggestion for a smaller container:
I used a piece of leftover 4" PVC, 30" in length. I capped it with a $2.50 'plug' from Lowes. It holds exactly 1 ½ gal. of liquid and will, obviously, accommodate those long donkey dongs that m growing
Thanks all
I don't use the H2o2. I don't have PM.
But I did use it several times to make sure it didn't do any harm and it definitely deals with PM at harvest. I still recommend tossing the really nasty stuff and only washing what looks like it's free from spores. (it's not....just not blooming with them)
That's what I suspected, but I've been removing them and checking them. They seem to be empty and there are no seeds. I can't get this damn thing to finish, so I think I'll just have to take it like it is.
GoldenEagle
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Just putting this information out there....
The kit instructions recommends:
One half of a fluid ounce equals about 14.78ml (Rounded to 15ml)
One fluid ounce equals 29.57ml. (Rounded to 30ml)
One and a half fluid ounces equals about 44.35ml. (Rounded to 44ml)
The kit instruction also does say
Two fluid ounces equals 59.14ml (Rounded to 59ml)
Two and half fluid ounces equals about 73.92ml (Rounded to 74ml)
For anyone following the kit instructions...
With the "Per plant" thought pattern in mind: Divide the generally recommended dosage by six and then multiple the initial answer by the number of plants you are growing.
For example the calculations might be 1.5fl.oz x 29.57ml = 44.35ml of the drench to measure out for six plants.
For one plant the 44.35ml is then divided by 6 which equals 7.392ml of the drench. The measured out drench is then mixed into the amount of water be given to the plant.
The kit instructions recommends:
One half of a fluid ounce equals about 14.78ml (Rounded to 15ml)
One fluid ounce equals 29.57ml. (Rounded to 30ml)
One and a half fluid ounces equals about 44.35ml. (Rounded to 44ml)
The kit instruction also does say
Two fluid ounces equals 59.14ml (Rounded to 59ml)
Two and half fluid ounces equals about 73.92ml (Rounded to 74ml)
For anyone following the kit instructions...
With the "Per plant" thought pattern in mind: Divide the generally recommended dosage by six and then multiple the initial answer by the number of plants you are growing.
For example the calculations might be 1.5fl.oz x 29.57ml = 44.35ml of the drench to measure out for six plants.
For one plant the 44.35ml is then divided by 6 which equals 7.392ml of the drench. The measured out drench is then mixed into the amount of water be given to the plant.
Does negative pressure affect the plants during anytime of their lives?
TheBoogyman
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Hey doc. I mixed up a bunch of soil that's been used one time into a 2(two) bins, threw in 15lbs of EWC in each along with half a bag of amendment in each as well. I'm not getting any respiration or moisture build up from them at all on the lids. My soil that's been cooking forever is fine, though. I only gave it plain water, no tea added. Should I throw some more water in with tea? I did sprinkle Roots! on top as well.
Doc,
My current grow with the hybrid-brix soil worked great and no noticeable bad leaf until a few lower yellowing this week. approaching 7th wk flowering.
I have been using the lighter side of the kit instructions.
Only used stress once for the sake of using it because I didn't think they needed it. This is the greenest and healthiest of my brix grows so far. Some of the buds seem substantially bigger than the past HB grows.
I am going to take brix reading soon.
I am probably going to reuse this soil and mix it with the left over batch of 3x used kit soil next grow.
I did one of those outdoor NPK test kits just to see what the soil looks like nute wise.
The results were light-medium on the N, medium on the P and medium-heavy on the K.
I know this doesn't mean anything Brix wise, just wanted to share the results of the experiment and testing.
If the testing shows a higher than average K, does that mean there was excess, or that it is locked up and not being used. None of the things I added were very high in K
The only thing I may add this time is some worm castings.
My current grow with the hybrid-brix soil worked great and no noticeable bad leaf until a few lower yellowing this week. approaching 7th wk flowering.
I have been using the lighter side of the kit instructions.
Only used stress once for the sake of using it because I didn't think they needed it. This is the greenest and healthiest of my brix grows so far. Some of the buds seem substantially bigger than the past HB grows.
I am going to take brix reading soon.
I am probably going to reuse this soil and mix it with the left over batch of 3x used kit soil next grow.
I did one of those outdoor NPK test kits just to see what the soil looks like nute wise.
The results were light-medium on the N, medium on the P and medium-heavy on the K.
I know this doesn't mean anything Brix wise, just wanted to share the results of the experiment and testing.
If the testing shows a higher than average K, does that mean there was excess, or that it is locked up and not being used. None of the things I added were very high in K
The only thing I may add this time is some worm castings.
high 420kwats
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Has anybody ever grown Jack Flash in Hi brix? I was thinking about it because of the sativa side plus some med also. Looking for something that has creative and pain relief but not body lock down.
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I have no idea. I wonder if it might mimic growing at altitude in some ways?
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You could do that if you desire. As long as it's moist and warm it should be OK. I know what you mean about the condensation though...I get worried when the leaves don't become puffballs overnight.
It's sort of a boot and suspenders approach in some ways. The soil is alive from the factory. We add even more biology...a lot more. At time of transplant we're adding massive amounts of myco and rock powders AND we're using a very potent microbial product when we water.
That's why I wouldn't sweat your soil too much. Give it a good stir and moisten it just a bit....add some tea if you wish....or not. As long as it hasn't been cold, super hot, or really dry it should be fine.