Doc Bud's High Brix Q&A With Pictures

re: Doc Bud - High Brix Q&A With Pictures

Hey Doc, I know you don't include the Pest Control because it's not good for indoor use (at least my kit didn't include it) but I've got some outdoor stuff going and would like some - can you hook me up?
 
re: Doc Bud - High Brix Q&A With Pictures

Hello again.
While I´m waiting for the exact shipping price of the kit to my far away country, I´ve been hitting the database here on 420mag and the web. I´ve read Graytail´s perpetual (very complete, lots of pictures, good reasoning to learn bout mistakes, really enjoyed it), some of Curso´s (just started on the 1200w led´s it looks very interesting) and more of DocBud´s. I´m really thankful to have acces to all this information, good work everyone.

I´ve got 3 cuties in the 4th week of bloom, looking really good. I´ve got some ammonium sulf and phosphate mono-ammonium, I will try them similar to how you use the cat drench, I think i´ve got the basics of it. My soil is mineralized, peat based, and has been drench´d on AACT weekly and it´s looking good.

So my question goes to DocBud. Could you please give me sulphate/phosphate ammonium content on your cat drench? I can do the basic calculations to know how much should I use of both per gal. I know I´m not giving you much info on the soil composition. I just need a reference to know your recipe so I don´t over do it with the ammonia. I´m also comparing your cat drench recipe with the dosage recommended by some industrial AS/AP based ferts. I´m asking for % weight/volume.

Keep up the good work everyone. Really enjoying the journals here.
 
re: Doc Bud - High Brix Q&A With Pictures

Enough is 1 tsp per cutting/seed and maybe 4 tbsp per 1 gallon transplant.

You could use 10 times that amount and as long as you mixed it into the soil, you'd be fine. You couldn't grow plants in it....so at some point it becomes "too much," but it's not like too much salt or anything like that. The product has rock poweders, myko, organic material, biochar, k-mag and a bunch of other cool stuff.

The reason it's so important with the kit is because the microbes in the Roots product have been born, bred and trained to eat rocks and digest materials UNAVAILABLE to the plant otherwise. In this way we can get the calcium, massive amounts of phosphorus and other nutrients far better than trying to force feed with salts.

Great info! i have some of the new roots on order, (just have to pay the invoice after work:)) excited to have a new product to test and compare:)

Copy and Pasted:Namaste: added to the collection of "Pertinent High Brix info" on my never ending word document:high-five:
 
re: Doc Bud - High Brix Q&A With Pictures

Hello again.
While I´m waiting for the exact shipping price of the kit to my far away country, I´ve been hitting the database here on 420mag and the web. I´ve read Graytail´s perpetual (very complete, lots of pictures, good reasoning to learn bout mistakes, really enjoyed it), some of Curso´s (just started on the 1200w led´s it looks very interesting) and more of DocBud´s. I´m really thankful to have acces to all this information, good work everyone.

I´ve got 3 cuties in the 4th week of bloom, looking really good. I´ve got some ammonium sulf and phosphate mono-ammonium, I will try them similar to how you use the cat drench, I think i´ve got the basics of it. My soil is mineralized, peat based, and has been drench´d on AACT weekly and it´s looking good.

So my question goes to DocBud. Could you please give me sulphate/phosphate ammonium content on your cat drench? I can do the basic calculations to know how much should I use of both per gal. I know I´m not giving you much info on the soil composition. I just need a reference to know your recipe so I don´t over do it with the ammonia. I´m also comparing your cat drench recipe with the dosage recommended by some industrial AS/AP based ferts. I´m asking for % weight/volume.

Keep up the good work everyone. Really enjoying the journals here.

I'm sorry about not getting back to you RE shipping. I'll get on that.

The Cat Drench has Ammonium Phosphate, Ammonium Sulfate and fish hydrolysate. Most of it is liquid fish.

It does not have MAP, so I couldn't advise you on that.

I don't know the molarity of your products, so I'm not comfortable advising you on dosage. You'll have to experiment with that on your own.....generally speaking 1 0z per 5 gallons is a good starting point.
 
re: Doc Bud - High Brix Q&A With Pictures

Thank you sir! I understand, I´ve got an organic fish hydrolysate product too with no MAP either. I will have to play for a bit with the chemicals (will look into that cause I´ve got like 99% pure AS and AP products), I think is hard to overdo it with the fish hydrolysate I will be tuned up to the forums and waiting for the response too. Heck I might be starting my own journal one of these days when I´ve got more stability (moving out of my condo soon).

Greetz!
 
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Hey Doc...enjoyed your post talking about rock powders and "roots" a page back.Love the way you say how the microbes are bred and raised to eat rocks!Great stuff!

Finished bagging up the two MK Ultra's tonight. Weighed in at 447 gms. (15.96 oz's.) Smokes so smooth and clean...very happy with the flavour as well. High brix ,wow...doesn't even make me cough. Can't get over that! Got some Mazar beans Doc...gonna run them after this next round of MK's. which are going into the big pots tomorrow.This round will be in properly, amended second run soil, so i will be able to compare .Doc...almost forgot ...how's WN senior doing? Cheers.
 
re: Doc Bud - High Brix Q&A With Pictures

Hey Doc...enjoyed your post talking about rock powders and "roots" a page back.Love the way you say how the microbes are bred and raised to eat rocks!Great stuff!

Finished bagging up the two MK Ultra's tonight. Weighed in at 447 gms. (15.96 oz's.) Smokes so smooth and clean...very happy with the flavour as well. High brix ,wow...doesn't even make me cough. Can't get over that! Got some Mazar beans Doc...gonna run them after this next round of MK's. which are going into the big pots tomorrow.This round will be in properly, amended second run soil, so i will be able to compare .Doc...almost forgot ...how's WN senior doing? Cheers.

That all sounds fantastic, Duggan.

Believe me, we all understand the difference in High Brix smoke.....makes us snobs. But everyone like you who tries it understands what we mean! Welcome.

WN senior is still growing. It is crazy looking....probably 8 oz on her. Not too pretty, compared to some other strains I grow, but the smell is fantastic and the effect of the early stuff I've harvested has been dynamite.

I'll get some pics soon. Very busy right now with all kinds of stuff.
 
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Doc, some soil questions, please

- do you think theres a 'male' soil and 'female' soil? To me, male plants smell different than same strain female. The plant if it smells different, it has different chemistry, effecting the exudates produced at the root/micros relationship?
- when you reuse the soil from previous grow, how long should one wait to reuse it? Should we flush it? Is it still dialed in flowering mode?
 
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Doc, some soil questions, please

- do you think theres a 'male' soil and 'female' soil? To me, male plants smell different than same strain female. The plant if it smells different, it has different chemistry, effecting the exudates produced at the root/micros relationship?
- when you reuse the soil from previous grow, how long should one wait to reuse it? Should we flush it? Is it still dialed in flowering mode?

A soil with a moderate supply of nitrate is going to tend to produce female cannabis plants over males, with all other factors
optimized. If you want males, you don't need a special soil.....just stress out the seedlings from germination.

When I reuse soil, it's been sitting for at least a month. I mix some Roots, some trimmings, amendment and EWC. It digests all the roots from the previous grow, etc.

I hope that helps.
 
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Hello Doc, what is the difference from when a plant gets overwatered and damage results to root system and leafs,
In comparison to a drench ?

Thank You, Bulldog
 
re: Doc Bud - High Brix Q&A With Pictures

Doc, Recently purchase my second HB Kit. Kit contained the Re-Charge #3 (which we've already discussed given this is my second soil run). I applied the Re-Charge per the March 2014 instructions - third week of flower, sprinkle on top of the soil, water in. Only afterwards, did I see the note on the back of the Re-Charge label: "Evenly top-dress all plants two weeks after transplanting into final containers."

Did I screw up?

I know that many growers transplant to final container and then shortly (immediately?) go to 12/12. Is this what you are implying with "...top-dress all plants two weeks after transplanting..."? Given this scenario, then I can see how this fits the notes on the Re-Charge label, albeit a week earlier than the instructions say.

I know you're constantly making adjustments to the HB kit and keeping up with modifying the instructions is tough, but I think it would sure help us newbies as things change. Have you ever thought of sending out a copy of the instructions with each kit? Thanks.
 
re: Doc Bud - High Brix Q&A With Pictures

Doc, Recently purchase my second HB Kit. Kit contained the Re-Charge #3 (which we've already discussed given this is my second soil run). I applied the Re-Charge per the March 2014 instructions - third week of flower, sprinkle on top of the soil, water in. Only afterwards, did I see the note on the back of the Re-Charge label: "Evenly top-dress all plants two weeks after transplanting into final containers."

Did I screw up?

I know that many growers transplant to final container and then shortly (immediately?) go to 12/12. Is this what you are implying with "...top-dress all plants two weeks after transplanting..."? Given this scenario, then I can see how this fits the notes on the Re-Charge label, albeit a week earlier than the instructions say.

I know you're constantly making adjustments to the HB kit and keeping up with modifying the instructions is tough, but I think it would sure help us newbies as things change. Have you ever thought of sending out a copy of the instructions with each kit? Thanks.

Nope you didn't screw up bro, it'll be fine.

I do transplant into final container give them 10 days and let them rip. Just try to get the recharge in about 2 weeks before you use the cat drench, or that is what I do.

You'll find once you know the path, your system of using these products will be much easier than you thought it would ever be. I call it growing on easy street.
 
re: Doc Bud - High Brix Q&A With Pictures

Hello Doc, what is the difference from when a plant gets overwatered and damage results to root system and leafs,
In comparison to a drench ?

Thank You, Bulldog

Overwatered would be doing a drench every other day and never giving the roots time to dry out. Drenching when the plant is thirsty isn't overwatering.....drenching when the plant is already well watered is how we overwater.

Doc, Recently purchase my second HB Kit. Kit contained the Re-Charge #3 (which we've already discussed given this is my second soil run). I applied the Re-Charge per the March 2014 instructions - third week of flower, sprinkle on top of the soil, water in. Only afterwards, did I see the note on the back of the Re-Charge label: "Evenly top-dress all plants two weeks after transplanting into final containers."

Did I screw up?

I know that many growers transplant to final container and then shortly (immediately?) go to 12/12. Is this what you are implying with "...top-dress all plants two weeks after transplanting..."? Given this scenario, then I can see how this fits the notes on the Re-Charge label, albeit a week earlier than the instructions say.

I know you're constantly making adjustments to the HB kit and keeping up with modifying the instructions is tough, but I think it would sure help us newbies as things change. Have you ever thought of sending out a copy of the instructions with each kit? Thanks.

I've thought about sending out instructions....sure have. I'm not ready to "go live" yet, for a couple reasons, not the least of which is that I'm already quite busy. Eventually, the kit will come with instructions, better packaging, etc.

I haven't said this in a while, but we're all BETA testing these products still.

Printing is quite expensive, so I don't like to print stuff up that is going to change. After I get the OG drench dialed in, I'll probably do a major update/rewrite to the directions.

But a week on timing of the Re-charge is no big deal. Like Curso said, things are quite forgiving with the kit.

The thinking behind the re-charge is that all this stuff is leaching out the bottom of the pot....and re-charging too late means the plant grows a week or two without all the minerals it needs....re-charging too early means the plant grows a week or two later in bloom without all the minerals.....so the timing is based on that.

8 week strains could probably do it at any time. 12 week strains and now we're wanting week 3 on the re-charge.

Just learn to use the products and you'll soon write your own timetable based on the principles and properties of the products AND your increasingly well honed intuition as a master gardner.
 
re: Doc Bud - High Brix Q&A With Pictures

Thanks bro!

I normally smoke in the evening, when I have no more responsibilities for that day. Yesterday, by lucky circumstance, I had no responsibilities after waking up. Today is a holiday for most folks.....but I'm working.

Anyways, I was extremely high....not stoned, and I was just grooving on the garden, examining leaves, pruning, just making general, cannabis-induced observations. I took over 100 pictures.....more than a bit obsessive. I'm glad I'm not in the beer business, or the candy business.....no telling what I might do in that case.

So here are some changes and crack pot ideas coming down the pike:

1.)I'm going to include the cationic soil drench into the schedule (and in the kits). I'll know more about when to use it after tray "B" is mature, as that tray is going to get the drench in mid-bloom, as opposed to early bloom.

As you may have noticed, the resin production (which is what I'm mainly concerned about) went way up after this drench, but the buds didn't swell nearly as much as "normal." They're catching up now, and they're very dense, so I'm not sure at this point if I'm going to lose yield or not, but the color change and bag appeal of these buds should be top notch.

I'm nearly certain it's only a question of when to use this particular product.....so I'll ruin my garden with it before I let my customers ruin their crops......if it turns out I didn't ruin my crop, but actually helped it....we're both going to be happy!

2.)I'm noticing better results by using the energy drench more often. Every other watering is working better than every 3 weeks. I'm positive that this is due to the ProMix HP draining so well. We're getting leaching action.

So, the fix for this is quite simple:

Don't over water in bloom except for a couple planned deep root soakings, use a rich nutrient mix for these.

Use the "re-charge" right after stretch. If you have some worm castings, don't be afraid to to pdress those either.

3.) I'm going to try something really stupid at harvest!!!

I'm going to get a very clean bucket of RO water, add a bit of lemon juice and baking soda, a la DIT leaf wash, and when I harvest I'm going to dip each cola up and down in the bucket and wash the leaves off this way. I'll shake as much water out as possible, and trim and hang as usual.

I've been advocating a thorough wash once or twice during the grow cycle, but I'm thinking this other way will be less dangerous, as the environment in the grow room won't be effected as much.

Part of why I sampled so much product yesterday was to see if I could taste any foliar sprays. I compared a recent harvest to a past harvest.....2 or 3 hits of each, to try to figure it out.


Bottom line: The new stuff is stronger and the high is "higher" "brighter" "warmer" and better. The old stuff has a more mild taste, with nothing negative. The new stuff expands and isn't quite as smooth.....but other people think it's bomb.

Well, I think I can make it better by giving it a good washing.

So, if something is going to go wrong it will!!!


I was looking back and saw this post from awhile back...Just cool to see how the kit has changed and progressed!:high-five::volcano-smiley::volcano-smiley:
 
re: Doc Bud - High Brix Q&A With Pictures

I'm sorry about not getting back to you RE shipping. I'll get on that.

The Cat Drench has Ammonium Phosphate, Ammonium Sulfate and fish hydrolysate. Most of it is liquid fish.

It does not have MAP, so I couldn't advise you on that.

I don't know the molarity of your products, so I'm not comfortable advising you on dosage. You'll have to experiment with that on your own.....generally speaking 1 0z per 5 gallons is a good starting point.

I fired a joint this afternoon and did some research. I won´t try the MAP but I can´t put my hands on AP either, so I will use DAP, this will surely lower the soil pH a bit cause of the HPO4-- released from DAP. I read a bit about what might happen to the HPO4- influx and the the interaction it might have with my Calcium at root level and I´ve decided the effect won´t be significant because of the low dosage, Ca soil levels and the greater "need" of the plant for P than Ca (HPO4 intake takes place before it cant react much with Ca).

I will be mixing 3/5 parts of my new fish hydrolysate (2-5-0) with 1/5 parts of AS solution I´ve prepared 0,76 MOLAR (2-0-0-2S) with 1/5 parts of DAP 0,83 MOLAR (2-5-0). All this combined as 1oz per 5 gallons.
I think I won´t screw this but we ll see, this will keep me entertained while I´m waiting (hopefuly) for my kit. Cheers.
 
re: Doc Bud - High Brix Q&A With Pictures

I fired a joint this afternoon and did some research. I won´t try the MAP but I can´t put my hands on AP either, so I will use DAP, this will surely lower the soil pH a bit cause of the HPO4-- released from DAP. I read a bit about what might happen to the HPO4- influx and the the interaction it might have with my Calcium at root level and I´ve decided the effect won´t be significant because of the low dosage, Ca soil levels and the greater "need" of the plant for P than Ca (HPO4 intake takes place before it cant react much with Ca).

I will be mixing 3/5 parts of my new fish hydrolysate (2-5-0) with 1/5 parts of AS solution I´ve prepared 0,76 MOLAR (2-0-0-2S) with 1/5 parts of DAP 0,83 MOLAR (2-5-0). All this combined as 1oz per 5 gallons.
I think I won´t screw this but we ll see, this will keep me entertained while I´m waiting (hopefuly) for my kit. Cheers.

I like your style. I believe I sent you an email regarding shipping cost.
 
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