Doc Bud's High Brix Q&A With Pictures

Ok the 4 females of this run are at 55 days.
PCS Meow.

some pics with and without the flash

breeder claims 9 weeks, they look like they are on track.










Yeah right. Those are real....yeah, sure they are. Cut and Paste from a bud-porn magazine or did you buy fake plants?
 
Ok the 4 females of this run are at 55 days.
PCS Meow.

some pics with and without the flash

breeder claims 9 weeks, they look like they are on track.









I think you know how to use High Brix gear now.....
 
Ok the 4 females of this run are at 55 days.
PCS Meow.

some pics with and without the flash

breeder claims 9 weeks, they look like they are on track.








I’ve got about 30 of those MEOW beans. Supposed to be straight Gas. What’s your thoughts on growing it?
 
Lol!! “Cut and paste” :rofl:

Magoo, I had 10 males to 4 females, so plant a bunch. OG water tech(encourage lateral root growth) , strong drenches, used SO three times in flower.

But remember I did all that because that’s what I saw they needed. it’s a good reference to what you may experience.

I learned with OG’s and Doc’s Kit, to never worry about drenching too much, you’ll know if you do. Then just back off to the sweet spot. Ive noticed when the soil energy is zinging, OG’s thrive. Just don’t forget the SO;)
 
Very strange.....you're doing everything right too.

The appear to suffer from wet feet.....but your watering method is fine.

I'd prune them, let them dry way, way out to the point where they lose turgor and then water them.

Also, emphasize GI drench over Transplant. Definitely use Transplant, but emphasize GI.
Doc, the white widow is in a 1 gal pot and is due for a heavy prune/transplant this weekend. the Maui is in a 7 gal and is was pruned and transplanted this past Sat.

This morning numerous other plants are showing signs of the same issue. Any chance this is a calcium deficiency? On line "leaf doctors" suggest this.

I'll follow your advice.
 
Hi Mike,

My first impression is the plant looks overwatered. When I see the interveinal “puffy” leaf tissue like you have, it tells me that the plants are not getting a proper wet/dry cycle, and the roots are not happy. Believe me I’ve done this countless times. how dry are you letting them get before you give a drink or drench?

ive gotten those brown spots on flowering plants, and ive come to learn it is usually an issue with the roots. Maybe overwatered, or under developed Because of poor watering tech. I use to think it was the foliars, but they don’t do that when applied correctly, fine mist under the leaves. I even apply foliars lights on now with no problems.

id let them really dry out, like just before leaf wilt, and do a rescue drench.

take care bud
DL, are you referring to one or both plants, ie looking overwatered? For 1 gal pots I let them get very lite with drooping leaves before watering. The 7 gal was just transplanted on Sat and was soaked in ¼ Tp per Doc. The 1 gal. was double dunked/drenched just prior to taking the photo, so they should look overwatered.

I understand the "roots not hooked up" potentially leading to this issue. However......#3 is the plant (Maui) from above posts. I think the roots are hooked up. :) Thanks for your response.

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Doc, the white widow is in a 1 gal pot and is due for a heavy prune/transplant this weekend. the Maui is in a 7 gal and is was pruned and transplanted this past Sat.

This morning numerous other plants are showing signs of the same issue. Any chance this is a calcium deficiency? On line "leaf doctors" suggest this.

I'll follow your advice.


It's impossible to have a calcium deficiency when the soil has more calcium than basically any other soil....

But when the roots aren't working then nothing gets absorbed by the plant, so it's more of a root issue.

I know your environment is dialed in and you know how to mix soil, so neither of those are an issue.

And since other plants are showing the most logical explanation is a pathogen in the soil, most likely a competing fungus or something like that. Have you seen any mushrooms in the bin or containers by chance?

Growth Ionic can be absorbed by roots in "hydro" fashion, so in order to finish till harvest I'd use that product exclusively for a while and see if anything clears up. Also, add Snake Oil to the foliars twice.

Then, if every plant has the issue AND you haven't had this problem before, we're likely looking at a pathogen in the bin, in which case it's time to toss the soil. You could put it out under the sun this summer and be able to re-use it if you wanted.

Also, if you toss the soil and start fresh, make sure the bin is sprayed with bleach first.
 
Doc: It's impossible to have a calcium deficiency when the soil has more calcium than basically any other soil....

Why is it so hard to remember this! Grrr.

And since other plants are showing the most logical explanation is a pathogen in the soil, most likely a competing fungus or something like that. Have you seen any mushrooms in the bin or containers by chance?

No, no mushrooms or any other weird growth.

Growth Ionic can be absorbed by roots in "hydro" fashion, so in order to finish till harvest I'd use that product exclusively for a while and see if anything clears up. Also, add Snake Oil to the foliars twice.

Will do.

Then, if every plant has the issue AND you haven't had this problem before, we're likely looking at a pathogen in the bin, in which case it's time to toss the soil. You could put it out under the sun this summer and be able to re-use it if you wanted.

Well, I have had this problem before. The last five or six grows. It manifests in late veg. Once the plants are up canned and I get back on a regular feeding schedule, it seems to dissipate. In the past, a Rescue Drench seemed to really help.

Also, if you toss the soil and start fresh, make sure the bin is sprayed with bleach first.

After each use, I always wash and bleach the bins. Thanks. I'll keep you updated.
 
Doc: It's impossible to have a calcium deficiency when the soil has more calcium than basically any other soil....

Why is it so hard to remember this! Grrr.

And since other plants are showing the most logical explanation is a pathogen in the soil, most likely a competing fungus or something like that. Have you seen any mushrooms in the bin or containers by chance?

No, no mushrooms or any other weird growth.

Growth Ionic can be absorbed by roots in "hydro" fashion, so in order to finish till harvest I'd use that product exclusively for a while and see if anything clears up. Also, add Snake Oil to the foliars twice.

Will do.

Then, if every plant has the issue AND you haven't had this problem before, we're likely looking at a pathogen in the bin, in which case it's time to toss the soil. You could put it out under the sun this summer and be able to re-use it if you wanted.

Well, I have had this problem before. The last five or six grows. It manifests in late veg. Once the plants are up canned and I get back on a regular feeding schedule, it seems to dissipate. In the past, a Rescue Drench seemed to really help.

Also, if you toss the soil and start fresh, make sure the bin is sprayed with bleach first.

After each use, I always wash and bleach the bins. Thanks. I'll keep you updated.


This is a very interesting problem! If the pathogen is in the soil and you recycle, it's going to get passed along.

I say toss it, bleach everything, sulfur burn the room with all pots and containers in the room and start with fresh, first run soil.

I seem to recall a batch of Promix that went out perhaps a year ago with this yellow crusty goo in it.....I didn't think twice about it, as i know others also mentioned it and no one reported problems. I'm not saying it's the Promix at all, I'm literally wracking my brain to figure out what the problem might be!
 
57 degrees at night is the issue. Case solved. Next?

Awesome thanx guys i really appreciate it lol.

I wouldn’t go below like 64 degrees at night at MOST imo, your roots will get cold and plants will get unhappy

Yea thanx man ill up the temps at lights off an see how things turn around.

i got the girls now transplanted into big ass ten gallon totes. And so far they were loving it. But now the laniakea is starting to flower out in veg. So im wondering could it be from switching lights. Cuz i moved her under the quantum board an noticed she started to flower out. So i moved her back under the mars hydro where she first started off. So could it be from the light change u think? I was using first an old mars 300 led light then i switched her to under the quantum board light 150w but moved her back. I didnt think it wud change her this much but she is full on flowering now. Do u think its early enuf to catch her back into veg or should i jus let her go or rip it an start another seed?



 
Ok the 4 females of this run are at 55 days.
PCS Meow.

some pics with and without the flash

breeder claims 9 weeks, they look like they are on track.









Dam those are looking beautiful an getn real close to done if not already lol u guna keep letn it go another week cuz they say 9 weeks? How the trichs lookn not much amber are they? If not id let em go see if they plump up any more lol. But yea lookn beautiful congrats.
 
Awesome thanx guys i really appreciate it lol.



Yea thanx man ill up the temps at lights off an see how things turn around.

i got the girls now transplanted into big ass ten gallon totes. And so far they were loving it. But now the laniakea is starting to flower out in veg. So im wondering could it be from switching lights. Cuz i moved her under the quantum board an noticed she started to flower out. So i moved her back under the mars hydro where she first started off. So could it be from the light change u think? I was using first an old mars 300 led light then i switched her to under the quantum board light 150w but moved her back. I didnt think it wud change her this much but she is full on flowering now. Do u think its early enuf to catch her back into veg or should i jus let her go or rip it an start another seed?



Some times a plant will start to bud if they start to get less light intesity than they had been getting. The quantum boards are usually more intense than blurples though so idk. I have not heard of the Lani having any auto traits, so it is odd.
 
This is a very interesting problem! If the pathogen is in the soil and you recycle, it's going to get passed along.

I say toss it, bleach everything, sulfur burn the room with all pots and containers in the room and start with fresh, first run soil.

I seem to recall a batch of Promix that went out perhaps a year ago with this yellow crusty goo in it.....I didn't think twice about it, as i know others also mentioned it and no one reported problems. I'm not saying it's the Promix at all, I'm literally wracking my brain to figure out what the problem might be!
Doc, greytail raised an interesting thought. I use city water that I filter and he suggested that despite the filter it might be to “hard” etc.

Here’s latest water report from the municipal water authority. Your thoughts on the numbers?

SUBSTANCE. AVERAGES
Hardness - 143
Ph - 7.5
Chloride - 19
Sodium - 9.8
 
DL, are you referring to one or both plants, ie looking overwatered? For 1 gal pots I let them get very lite with drooping leaves before watering. The 7 gal was just transplanted on Sat and was soaked in ¼ Tp per Doc. The 1 gal. was double dunked/drenched just prior to taking the photo, so they should look overwatered.

I understand the "roots not hooked up" potentially leading to this issue. However......#3 is the plant (Maui) from above posts. I think the roots are hooked up. :) Thanks for your response.

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I was referring to the small plants that were just up potted. I’m no expert on diagnosing. Sound like you have a grip on the finer details, and like Doc said very interesting problem, might be a pathogen.
 
Dam those are looking beautiful an getn real close to done if not already lol u guna keep letn it go another week cuz they say 9 weeks? How the trichs lookn not much amber are they? If not id let em go see if they plump up any more lol. But yea lookn beautiful congrats.

Thanks bud

I’ll probably harvest some time late this week. They are in the window, trichromes are mostly cloudy. Subsequent runs I’ll try earlier and later harvests, just to compare.
 
Some times a plant will start to bud if they start to get less light intesity than they had been getting. The quantum boards are usually more intense than blurples though so idk. I have not heard of the Lani having any auto traits, so it is odd.
I have a plant that started to flower in veg last round, took a clone from the least affected branch that had least amount of calyxs and then it has started to veg out normal again
 
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