DIY Stealth Cab, Hydro, LED & Multiple Strains in Small Space - Oh Boy!
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Looks good so far, just wanted to check in and claim my seat.
Peace,
NEPharmer
Hey NEP! Welcome! We've been keeping your seat warm for you
I just checked on the girls. The two babies are starting to look better and getting their color back. The waterfarm kush is still growing like crazy and she seems to have loved the higher PPM on the nutes.
The waterfarm haze, on the other hand, started to show some signs of nute burn. The PPMs were at 1240. I drained abou half the res and topped off with plain water & some DM Zone then brought the PH back in range. Hopefully she'll recover quick and I won't need to do a complete flush. I knew I was pushing it with that big of a jump in PPM, but had to give it a shot.
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PIC UPDATE:
All things considered, the girls did fine today, except for the nute burn on the haze.
I guess we'll start tonight's pics off with the waterfarm kush. You may not be able to tell, but she got a little haircut today. Here she is after the cut:
And here's why I gave her a haircut:
(4 more AK clones plus the one I started last week, so five total. I need to get one healthy mother out of the five)
Next, the waterfarm haze that got a little nute burn, but looks worse in the pics than she really is:
The other where the pics look more yellow than the plant is the LS*. She's still recovering from the N deficiency, but coming along:
And the PE has almost completely recovered from the N deficiency. The higher PPM's really worked quick on her. I suspect because she's got a better root system:
I'm gonna give the kush 5-7 days to recover from taking the clones, then I think I'm gonna put her into flower.
Thanks again for all the help and happy harvests!
All things considered, the girls did fine today, except for the nute burn on the haze.
I guess we'll start tonight's pics off with the waterfarm kush. You may not be able to tell, but she got a little haircut today. Here she is after the cut:
And here's why I gave her a haircut:
(4 more AK clones plus the one I started last week, so five total. I need to get one healthy mother out of the five)
Next, the waterfarm haze that got a little nute burn, but looks worse in the pics than she really is:
The other where the pics look more yellow than the plant is the LS*. She's still recovering from the N deficiency, but coming along:
And the PE has almost completely recovered from the N deficiency. The higher PPM's really worked quick on her. I suspect because she's got a better root system:
I'm gonna give the kush 5-7 days to recover from taking the clones, then I think I'm gonna put her into flower.
Thanks again for all the help and happy harvests!
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ANOTHER PIC UPDATE:
I know...it's only been 15 hours since my last pic update, but thought I'd take a few more to show how far we've come with some and not so far with others.
We all know how happy I am with the one kush that lived. She's loving the high PPM's and last night I took four more clones from her. She's the reason I've been having to raise the lights almost daily, or at least adjust her LST. Here she is today:
And a canopy-view:
The waterfarm haze didn't like the higher PPM's as much and got a little nute burned. I don't feel that bad since she was already nute burned when I got her and I seem to have caught it quickly and I can already see the improvement in her leaf tip color since last night. Her roots just hit the res and are finally starting to form some of that classic "fish bone" structure, although it's tough to make out in the pic.
Here are her roots:
Here's a top-view:
And here's a Before & After shot after two weeks with LST:
The babies are looking good again, of course relatively speaking...
Here's the PE:
Does anyone know if there's any type of reward or contest for the smallest living MJ Plant? If so, I think I should enter the LS*. She now has four complete sets of leaves and is working on her fifth and is really PUNY. Still less than 2" wide and even shorter in height. She looks pretty good, considering still recovering a little from the N deficiency:
But, look at her next to the PE which sprouted about 3-4 days after the LS* but was germinated in rockwool instead of the STG cubes used on the LS*:
Again, I really hope to see her take off, since I'd hate to go through all this only to harvest a main cola that's an inch and a half long!
I know...it's only been 15 hours since my last pic update, but thought I'd take a few more to show how far we've come with some and not so far with others.
We all know how happy I am with the one kush that lived. She's loving the high PPM's and last night I took four more clones from her. She's the reason I've been having to raise the lights almost daily, or at least adjust her LST. Here she is today:
And a canopy-view:
The waterfarm haze didn't like the higher PPM's as much and got a little nute burned. I don't feel that bad since she was already nute burned when I got her and I seem to have caught it quickly and I can already see the improvement in her leaf tip color since last night. Her roots just hit the res and are finally starting to form some of that classic "fish bone" structure, although it's tough to make out in the pic.
Here are her roots:
Here's a top-view:
And here's a Before & After shot after two weeks with LST:
The babies are looking good again, of course relatively speaking...
Here's the PE:
Does anyone know if there's any type of reward or contest for the smallest living MJ Plant? If so, I think I should enter the LS*. She now has four complete sets of leaves and is working on her fifth and is really PUNY. Still less than 2" wide and even shorter in height. She looks pretty good, considering still recovering a little from the N deficiency:
But, look at her next to the PE which sprouted about 3-4 days after the LS* but was germinated in rockwool instead of the STG cubes used on the LS*:
Again, I really hope to see her take off, since I'd hate to go through all this only to harvest a main cola that's an inch and a half long!
turttle
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Looking good krip I think you goter down...
SUUUPPPPP KRIP!
Just wanted to say those are some fucking trippy ass looking marijuana plants! Congrats on the fine labor may I ask what strain they are? Also how do you like growing in those soft white cubes? Whats that stuff called again? Magic Medium or something? I'll be tuned in
Just wanted to say those are some fucking trippy ass looking marijuana plants! Congrats on the fine labor may I ask what strain they are? Also how do you like growing in those soft white cubes? Whats that stuff called again? Magic Medium or something? I'll be tuned in
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SUUUPPPPP KRIP!
Just wanted to say those are some fucking trippy ass looking marijuana plants! Congrats on the fine labor may I ask what strain they are? Also how do you like growing in those soft white cubes? Whats that stuff called again? Magic Medium or something? I'll be tuned in
Thanks PG. The strains are Pineapple Express, Barney's Farm LSD, Afghan Kush & Royal Haze.
The grow media is STG (Sure To Grow), and I was trying to use several of their products for all aspects of the grow. Most definately do NOT use their starter cubes for germination. I was warned against these by several growers, but I wanted to "standardize" on STG and didn't listen and had HORRIBLE results, so use rockwool or rapid rooters instead of the cubes. In the waterfarms, I'm using STG's new "Hail" product, which I do like and seems to be much easier than hydroton.
Happy Harvests & thanks for stopping by!
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KUSH UPDATE:
The Kush is telling me every way she can that she's ready to flower! I checked this morning and she had another nice little growth spurt. So, I checked PH & PPM's which I hadn't done since Saturday when I changed the res. The PH was at 5.79 and PPM's were down to 810, so she drank over 200 PPM's of nutes!
I was pretty surprised at how well she's doing, so I topped off her res, upped the PPM's again to 1150 and got another nice surprise:
I have to say that the roots have absolutely exploded since adding the DM Zone! (thanks again, H!). I'm definately not complaining about the results I'm now seeing with that stuff!
The first clone I took from her still isn't showing roots out of the cube, but it is still a little early and she looks healthy, so I'm not panicking yet. But, I'd really like to make sure I have a healthy clone before I set her into flower. I guess, worst case, if NONE of the five clones take, I can take a couple more in the first week or two of flower.
So, Saturday will be the day I flip the switch on her. I'm hoping the haze can catch up by then and also be ready for flower, but she's definately further behind, so may need to give her an extra week. Since I have another healthy haze in the hempy, I'm less worried about having clones from her before I go 12/12.
I'm pretty excited to see how the LED performs in bloom!
Any suggestions for preparing to flower? What's the concensus on giving 24 hours of dark before going 12/12? I've seen some tests where this wasn't as effective, but am open to ideas from anyone who's had any experience with this.
So, other than a possible dark period, I guess on Saturday when I change the res, I'll start her on light bloom nutes and put her back in the flower chamber under 12/12.
This is starting to get fun!
The Kush is telling me every way she can that she's ready to flower! I checked this morning and she had another nice little growth spurt. So, I checked PH & PPM's which I hadn't done since Saturday when I changed the res. The PH was at 5.79 and PPM's were down to 810, so she drank over 200 PPM's of nutes!
I was pretty surprised at how well she's doing, so I topped off her res, upped the PPM's again to 1150 and got another nice surprise:
I have to say that the roots have absolutely exploded since adding the DM Zone! (thanks again, H!). I'm definately not complaining about the results I'm now seeing with that stuff!
The first clone I took from her still isn't showing roots out of the cube, but it is still a little early and she looks healthy, so I'm not panicking yet. But, I'd really like to make sure I have a healthy clone before I set her into flower. I guess, worst case, if NONE of the five clones take, I can take a couple more in the first week or two of flower.
So, Saturday will be the day I flip the switch on her. I'm hoping the haze can catch up by then and also be ready for flower, but she's definately further behind, so may need to give her an extra week. Since I have another healthy haze in the hempy, I'm less worried about having clones from her before I go 12/12.
I'm pretty excited to see how the LED performs in bloom!
Any suggestions for preparing to flower? What's the concensus on giving 24 hours of dark before going 12/12? I've seen some tests where this wasn't as effective, but am open to ideas from anyone who's had any experience with this.
So, other than a possible dark period, I guess on Saturday when I change the res, I'll start her on light bloom nutes and put her back in the flower chamber under 12/12.
This is starting to get fun!
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OK...so I do NOT want to re-start any arguments here, but I thought it would be good for everyone to see the results I've had since using the DM Zone on a plant that had pretty much its entire root structure sliced off:
chrgrsfan
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Told you that things would be better once we got some success under your belt!!!
Don't take this personal or anything but "them's some mighty fine roots your showing there!"
Happy Grows ~H~
Don't take this personal or anything but "them's some mighty fine roots your showing there!"
Happy Grows ~H~
WeednFeed
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Roots are looking real nice Krip! Good going.
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Thanks for all the good thoughts and all the help all! 
Here's a short update:
I just checked the clone I took on 1/27 and I can now see the very tip of a single root poking out of the bottom of the cube. It appears we have our first successful clone!
Of course, I've learned by now that the trick is keeping it alive, so I have a long way to go. I'm gonna keep her in the humidity dome for at least a few more days and want to see a bunch more roots before I transfer her to a hempy. I'll probably do that this weekend when I move her mother to the veg chamber, which will be easier for me to do knowing I have a clone rooted.
One more little DIY I thought I'd share, though, I imagine it's been done before...
The ONA gel came in and, as I had read in many of the threads, it's a pretty strong scent. I picked up a quart jar of the Linen scent.
What I did was to take a small tupperware bowl (the kind you store food in, not the kind you smoke out of! ) and with a screwdriver heated over a candle, I melted a bunch of holes in the top and the top of the sides.
I then put a small amount of the ONA in the bowl, added a small amount of water, and put the top on. The idea is that the air can flow through the bowl and the ONA and water won't spill out.
I put this bowl in the top-left chamber of my cabinet, which is where I vent both the veg and flower chambers. I then vent/scrub the air in that one chamber and vent back out into the closet.
It's actually doing a great job!!!
Since my inline fan is set to run for 15 minutes each hour, it's like having an air freshener on a timer. Every 15 minutes it pulls the air through the ONA and puts it back into the room. I haven't had to use the carbon scrubber at all (YET!) and the room smells fresh, but not overwhelming. Kind of like, a clean smell, but nothing really noticeable. I don't know how well it will work when the ladies start flowering, but if nothing else, it will buy some extra life on the carbon filter.
Happy Harvests!
Here's a short update:
I just checked the clone I took on 1/27 and I can now see the very tip of a single root poking out of the bottom of the cube. It appears we have our first successful clone!
Of course, I've learned by now that the trick is keeping it alive, so I have a long way to go. I'm gonna keep her in the humidity dome for at least a few more days and want to see a bunch more roots before I transfer her to a hempy. I'll probably do that this weekend when I move her mother to the veg chamber, which will be easier for me to do knowing I have a clone rooted.
One more little DIY I thought I'd share, though, I imagine it's been done before...
The ONA gel came in and, as I had read in many of the threads, it's a pretty strong scent. I picked up a quart jar of the Linen scent.
What I did was to take a small tupperware bowl (the kind you store food in, not the kind you smoke out of!
) and with a screwdriver heated over a candle, I melted a bunch of holes in the top and the top of the sides.I then put a small amount of the ONA in the bowl, added a small amount of water, and put the top on. The idea is that the air can flow through the bowl and the ONA and water won't spill out.
I put this bowl in the top-left chamber of my cabinet, which is where I vent both the veg and flower chambers. I then vent/scrub the air in that one chamber and vent back out into the closet.
It's actually doing a great job!!!
Since my inline fan is set to run for 15 minutes each hour, it's like having an air freshener on a timer. Every 15 minutes it pulls the air through the ONA and puts it back into the room. I haven't had to use the carbon scrubber at all (YET!) and the room smells fresh, but not overwhelming. Kind of like, a clean smell, but nothing really noticeable. I don't know how well it will work when the ladies start flowering, but if nothing else, it will buy some extra life on the carbon filter.
Happy Harvests!
turttle
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Roots looking good krip.Good sign ph is staying pretty steady with such high ppm.She is hungry and healthy(my skunk is also liking the high ppms).No arguement here that sure is a hole lot of root growth good job
I think the 24 hr lights out is just a myth myself.What I like to do is start my flower nutes a week before I flip the lights.But IDK I think its just grower preference my self 24 hrs wont hurt any thing either way.
I think the 24 hr lights out is just a myth myself.What I like to do is start my flower nutes a week before I flip the lights.But IDK I think its just grower preference my self 24 hrs wont hurt any thing either way.
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Roots looking good krip.Good sign ph is staying pretty steady with such high ppm.She is hungry and healthy(my skunk is also liking the high ppms).No arguement here that sure is a hole lot of root growth good job
I think the 24 hr lights out is just a myth myself.What I like to do is start my flower nutes a week before I flip the lights.But IDK I think its just grower preference my self 24 hrs wont hurt any thing either way.
Thanks Turttle! I think I'm gonna skip the 24-hour dark period and just start her on 12/12 on Saturday. That is, if I can make it that long!
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PIC UPDATE:
OK, here are most of the girls today.
The AK is definately ready for flower. She's growing every minute, it seems!
The LS* is still puny, but coming along nicely for a miniture version of an MJ plant:
It looks like the roots on the PE finally hit the res and she's really starting to take off. I was surprised how much lighter her res was than the LS* which indicates she's starting to really drink from the res:
And the waterfarm Haze after I adjusted her LST again today:
More to come & thanks for the help!
OK, here are most of the girls today.
The AK is definately ready for flower. She's growing every minute, it seems!
The LS* is still puny, but coming along nicely for a miniture version of an MJ plant:
It looks like the roots on the PE finally hit the res and she's really starting to take off. I was surprised how much lighter her res was than the LS* which indicates she's starting to really drink from the res:
And the waterfarm Haze after I adjusted her LST again today:
More to come & thanks for the help!
Mr.KRIP that AK is lookin bomb dude keeep up the good work! Also I just wanted to suggest that you top the second plant from the bottom up. The little somewhat bushie girl. Dude I did that with mine and look at her now! Though I would recomend taking only one baby top-referring to the center one thats about to sprout on the very top. I dont know how familiar you are with topping but I might write up a "how to" thread on topping and if you need that shit i'll do it sooner than later, Im sure the plant would do great without it but it seems to produce great results while inflicting little on the plant. Can't wait to see them once you flip them to the 12/12, on that note what light are you using for veg and what will you be using for flower? a 400 HPS? Keep u the good work! 
also just wanted to ask you which you prefer the 24 hour light cycle or the 18 on 6 off while vegging? I kinda got in an argument with a friend and wanted to see what others had to say. I believe 24 hour is better because it gets the plant the energy it needs faster. theres no warming up or cooling down period where time would be lost. resulting in a grow that matures faster so you can turn that light off for alittle bit sooner!
PG out.
also just wanted to ask you which you prefer the 24 hour light cycle or the 18 on 6 off while vegging? I kinda got in an argument with a friend and wanted to see what others had to say. I believe 24 hour is better because it gets the plant the energy it needs faster. theres no warming up or cooling down period where time would be lost. resulting in a grow that matures faster so you can turn that light off for alittle bit sooner!
PG out.
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Mr.KRIP that AK is lookin bomb dude keeep up the good work! Also I just wanted to suggest that you top the second plant from the bottom up. The little somewhat bushie girl. Dude I did that with mine and look at her now! Though I would recomend taking only one baby top-referring to the center one thats about to sprout on the very top. I dont know how familiar you are with topping but I might write up a "how to" thread on topping and if you need that shit i'll do it sooner than later, Im sure the plant would do great without it but it seems to produce great results while inflicting little on the plant. Can't wait to see them once you flip them to the 12/12, on that note what light are you using for veg and what will you be using for flower? a 400 HPS? Keep u the good work!
also just wanted to ask you which you prefer the 24 hour light cycle or the 18 on 6 off while vegging? I kinda got in an argument with a friend and wanted to see what others had to say. I believe 24 hour is better because it gets the plant the energy it needs faster. theres no warming up or cooling down period where time would be lost. resulting in a grow that matures faster so you can turn that light off for alittle bit sooner!
PG out.
PG, thanks for stopping by and the input.
You can see all the equipment I'm using on the first page of my first grow journal. Click the link in my signature and you'll get all the info, but I'll be flowering under a 180w LED.
I do plan on using Uncle Ben's Topping Method to get four main colas. There is a good thread on this if you search for it. I don't know if I'll do it on that PE, though...I think I'll make her a mother and take some clones from her. When you do Uncle Ben's method, you can clone the top, so maybe I will, but she needs another node or two before I do. If I recall UB's method, when the plant has 5-6 nodes you top between the 2nd and 3rd nodes to get four MAIN (not secondary!) colas.
I am still a noob, but understand that the plants do NOT require a dark period. But I also hear that 24/0 only helps the first couple of weeks. I started them at 20/4 and lowered to 18/6 for veg. The advantages of the dark period are lower power costs & lower temps.
Best!
K
Thanks dude i'll definitely look those techniques up, i did the normal "FIM' technique I believe its called. yo and if you come across any links that are good examples plz send my way also!
thanks.
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Thanks dude i'll definitely look those techniques up, i did the normal "FIM' technique I believe its called. yo and if you come across any links that are good examples plz send my way also!
thanks.
No problem, bro. I can't post the link cuz it's on another board...just Google "uncle bens topping" and it will come up. Much more reliable than FIM.
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