DIY Stealth Cab, Hydro, LED & Multiple Strains in Small Space - Oh Boy!

[Barry Manilow]

Congrats on the harvest Mr. Krip, your Haze looks awesome too

Not to tell you what to do but 75% rh in the jars is dangerous imo... I'd spread them back out in a box or bag overnight and try to get that down in the 63-66 range then let them dry real slow... but 75 is asking for mold unless your temps are quite cool.

Good luck bro

 

[Mr. Krip]

Man you grow em big! And that veg chamber looks like it's full of beautiful and happy plants

Love the trichs on that girl, should make for some potent smoke my friend. Best of luck with cure and I know you'll get that dry box dialed in.

Thanks, DIME...yeah, I haven't paid much attention to the haze and had contemplated tossing her a few times, but now I'm realy happy I kept her and anxious to see how she finishes.

 

[Mr. Krip]

Looks awesome krip glad to hear you got the drying situation on lock down now lol cant wait to see whats next

Thanks Crower! Yeah....drying is going much better this time, and the Pineapple Express mom is going into flower next, followed shortly after by the harvest of the haze.

 

[Mr. Krip]

haven't checked you out in awhile things are lookin good, hopefully when i get all this down packed i can do it how most of you guys do and start doin clones, i got a couple different brands of cloning gel so i think this grow i might give it a try, maybe i can find me a small cabinet to do my veging in and use the cab i have now for flowering that way i can have shit all year around instead of every 4 months, i also have my second grow goin on, if u got time check it out, things are lookin way better then last grow already, i got this new soil i dont know if you ever heard of it, its called RG Basement Mix, really good shit, i got the ingredients and all that in the description for my grow, but yea if u got a minute check it out, and keep up the good work bro, shits lookin good!!!

Good to see ya' back, Suka! I'll stop by & check out your new grow. Good luck on it!

 

[Mr. Krip]

Nice krip like them sugary leaves.congrats on the harvest looks like a jungly in there all nice and healthy man.

Thanks, Turttle!

Yeah, I'm definately loving this hobby and starting to really get the feel for it. Now that I've got my first harvest down, I just need to figure out how to keep improving it!

 

[Mr. Krip]

Yo whats up Krip!! Long time no see or talk. I've been off in my own world but I plan on getn' back in this world on a daily basis and just wanted to drop the new thread link so you can get at me its RDWC again but i'm also incorporating coco this time to get some sprouts to cloning level before flowering them then will take out males and go from there trying to find the best one. Hope everythings alright with you dude, hope to catch up with you soon.
Heres the perpetual journal:
Hydrologist's Pertetual RDWC Grow - Bubba Chunk - C99 - Pineapple - Tarzan Strains

Hydrologist

Hey Hydro! Another one I haven't seen in a while, but I'm sure you've been in a constant "fog" from your last harvest! I saw your new grow last night, but didn't have a chance to comment, and it looks great! It appears you're moving up in the "hydro world"!

 

[Mr. Krip]

Congrats on the harvest Mr. Krip, your Haze looks awesome too

Not to tell you what to do but 75% rh in the jars is dangerous imo... I'd spread them back out in a box or bag overnight and try to get that down in the 63-66 range then let them dry real slow... but 75 is asking for mold unless your temps are quite cool.

Good luck bro

Brother Blue! I'm way ahead of you on that!

It was too high, IMHO, too, so yesterday the buds spent the day in a paper bag to dry out some more. Today, the moisture level is down to 67%. I've been trying to dry the last 15% or so of the moisture as slowly as possible, since the initial drying went a little too quick. I really want to make sure I get rid of the chlorophyl taste/smell, and it does appear to be working!

Buds are smelling MUCH better than a couple of days ago.

Once the outsides get soft again, I'll probably put them back in the paper bag for a few more hours to dry just a little bit more before I really start the curing process.

I appreciate you covering my butt, though!

 

[Barry Manilow]

That makes me feel a lot better Mr. Krip

I only open the jars and move my arm up and down a few times to change the air, then seal them again. 2-3 times a day early on, now every few days (it's been 10 weeks). I'm still around 60 rh.... it's an extremely slow process if you want it to be but get them out of the danger zone first, which I arbitrarily set at 63. Haven't seen a hint of mold either which is all that matters. If you just open the jar and leave it 12-18 hrs you'll only lose 2-3% at most. That's what I did to bring it down, so you've got lots of options. Good luck my friend

 

[Barry Manilow]

ps isn't it crazy how dry they feel and then you test them and they're like 80%?

 

[Mr. Krip]

That makes me feel a lot better Mr. Krip

I only open the jars and move my arm up and down a few times to change the air, then seal them again. 2-3 times a day early on, now every few days (it's been 10 weeks). I'm still around 60 rh.... it's an extremely slow process if you want it to be but get them out of the danger zone first, which I arbitrarily set at 63. Haven't seen a hint of mold either which is all that matters. If you just open the jar and leave it 12-18 hrs you'll only lose 2-3% at most. That's what I did to bring it down, so you've got lots of options. Good luck my friend

Blue, my technique is that I open the jars, turn them sideways with my hand covering the mouth (to prevent spillage), and do a little "vibrating/rolling" motion to get some air space between the buds. Actually, I hold the jar a little lower and with both hands, but it kind of looks like this: (with the hands shaking with the head!)

I agree the 63% RH would be a "safe zone" but believe that the higher the RH, the less time they can spend in sealed jars before risking mold, so, although I'm a little higher than it should be for any long-term storage, as long as I stay dilligent about changing the air, I think I can avoid mold and continue with the slower drying. I don't consider myself to be in the "curing" stage, yet.

ps isn't it crazy how dry they feel and then you test them and they're like 80%?

You are SOOOOOOOOO right about that!

Initially, I was really worried the buds were overdried in just 48 hours! It's pure luck I received the hygrometers, or I probably would have wound up thinking they were too dry. They buds felt dryer to me than just about any I had smoked before.

In fact, when I first put the hygrometers in the two jars, I didn't believe it when one went up to 75% (the one with the smaller buds) and the other to 80% (the jar with the larger buds) since I was sure they were much dryer than that.

I figured I had some cheap, defective hygrometers, that, at best, were just reading high.

So, I switched the two hyrgometers around, placing them in opposite jars. Sure enough, the one at 80% went down to 75% and the one at 75% went up to 80% so I'm pretty sure they're both reading accurately.

After mixing all the buds together in the paper bag and then putting them back in the jars in equal volume, they two jars are now both reading the same RH (67%).

The way the initially "crispy" buds re-softened in the jars, really illustrates how the drying and curing process works by drawing out the moisture from inside the buds.

 

[OldMedMan]

Hi there Mr. Krip.

You and Blue have influenced me enough that I'll be getting some hygrometers very soon. When I read your post, I went over and opened my two Lucy jars,
opened and vibrated them a little. Down to one a days with her now. Had to take Jo to the hospital today and forgot all about growing. She's OK, but more tests coming up for her. Bit frighting that. The test will tell.

I think with the harvest under your belt, you have switched over to a full grown grower! Congratulations!

 

[Barry Manilow]

Sorry to hear about Jo OMM, shingles again? Tony LaRussa the Cards manager is fighting a case of them right now and isn't even travelling with the team it's so painful.

 

[Mr. Krip]

Hi there Mr. Krip.

You and Blue have influenced me enough that I'll be getting some hygrometers very soon. When I read your post, I went over and opened my two Lucy jars,
opened and vibrated them a little. Down to one a days with her now. Had to take Jo to the hospital today and forgot all about growing. She's OK, but more tests coming up for her. Bit frighting that. The test will tell.

I think with the harvest under your belt, you have switched over to a full grown grower! Congratulations!

Hey OMM, thanks Brother!

I've now earned my Associates Degree from the Growers School of Hard Knocks and working towards my Masters. I am expecting my diploma in the mail any day now!

I'm real sorry to hear about Jo being sick again. Send our best for a speedy recovery.

In spite of what Blue thinks, I'm sure the whole Tony Larussa thing is just a coincidence and Jo doesn't even know him!

I sent you a PM with a link to the hygrometers I'm using. I'm glad to hear you picked something up from me, even if it was only my "vibrating the jar" technique!

BTW...tomorrow is Wednesday, so I'm gonna be looking somewhere for pics...would you recommend I check the old journal or new journal???

 

[Macgyverup]

If you can check out this thread, Irish knows her shit and is helping Doc with a similar problem on his first grow.

What is RH, and Why Is It Important in Drying, Curing and Storing Bud?

Good luck my friend!

Hi Mr. Krip. I read through this post (Thanks BlueDog this was timely and great info, as I will be harvesting in a few days) and have a question that maybe I missed in the post. Do you know what the optimum weight loss should be before curing in jars or bags? I think I'll be good on temp and humidity because the cabinet will be in the grow room that has temp/humidity control but am wondering if I should be looking for weight loss and what that % may be or feel of the buds when they are lightly squeezed? It may be in there and I'm just too dense to decipher it or just didn't get it, duh, lol!

Thanks and glad to read that overall your first grow and harvest turned out ok.

 

[Mr. Krip]

QUICK PIC UPDATE: HAZE @ 98 DAYS OF 12/12!

I did a res change yesterday and, at the last minute, decided to start the Overdrive beginnig the 3-week countdown. Some of her buds look pretty ripe, although, that huge main cola still has a ways to go.

Here she is:

 

[Mr. Krip]

Hi Mr. Krip. I read through this post (Thanks BlueDog this was timely and great info, as I will be harvesting in a few days) and have a question that maybe I missed in the post. Do you know what the optimum weight loss should be before curing in jars or bags? I think I'll be good on temp and humidity because the cabinet will be in the grow room that has temp/humidity control but am wondering if I should be looking for weight loss and what that % may be or feel of the buds when they are lightly squeezed? It may be in there and I'm just too dense to decipher it or just didn't get it, duh, lol!

Thanks and glad to read that overall your first grow and harvest turned out ok.

MacG, I don't know if there's an "optimum weight loss" and believe it would be dependent on the specific pheno. Since it's really about moisture content, I would think weight loss would be dependent on the specific moisture content of the buds when beginning the drying process.

That being said, I've heard figures of 70%-80% loss from wet weight being "normal". I did not weigh mine wet, so I can't tell you if this was true for my grow.

I would urge you to use a hygrometer to check moisture content and not try to judge by weight.

 

[Macgyverup]

MacG, I don't know if there's an "optimum weight loss" and believe it would be dependent on the specific pheno. Since it's really about moisture content, I would think weight loss would be dependent on the specific moisture content of the buds when beginning the drying process.

That being said, I've heard figures of 70%-80% loss from wet weight being "normal". I did not weigh mine wet, so I can't tell you if this was true for my grow.

I would urge you to use a hygrometer to check moisture content and not try to judge by weight.

Thanks Mr. Krip Maybe I'm a little dense here, well actually maybe I'm being anal lol, but how would you use a hygrometer on a bud? Are you checking the moisture content of the jar after the buds are in cure? Sorry if this is a dumb question but I'm not sure how a hygrometer would work. I have a hygrometer that monitors humidity in my grow room and turns on and off the dehumidifier. Is there one that will test the buds themselves? Thanks and please feel free to educate me I may be dense but I have pretty thick skin, I think it goes with my thick head, lol!

 

[Mr. Krip]

Thanks Mr. Krip Maybe I'm a little dense here, well actually maybe I'm being anal lol, but how would you use a hygrometer on a bud? Are you checking the moisture content of the jar after the buds are in cure? Sorry if this is a dumb question but I'm not sure how a hygrometer would work. I have a hygrometer that monitors humidity in my grow room and turns on and off the dehumidifier. Is there one that will test the buds themselves? Thanks and please feel free to educate me I may be dense but I have pretty thick skin, I think it goes with my thick head, lol!

MacG, think of a cigar humidor...

There are mini hygrometers that you can simply drop in the jars with the curing buds. I'll send you a link to the ones I use, which are pretty cheap and are reported to be very accurate.

 

[Mr. Krip]

MacG,

I think I may have gotten this originally from Brother Blue, but I believe it's from another post here on 420 and it's some great info on curing:

Cut the product, trim it per your preference, but don't dry it until the stems snap. Take it down while the stems still have some flex, but the product feels dry on the outside. This is a perfect opportunity to drop the dry-feeling flowers onto a screen and collect prime-quality kief that would otherwise get lost in the jar.

Jar the product, along with a Caliber III hygrometer. One can be had on Ebay for ~$20. Having tested a number of hygrometers - digital and analog - this model in particular produced consistent, accurate results. Then, watch the readings:

+70% RH - too wet, needs to sit outside the jar to dry for 12-24 hours, depending.

65-70% RH - the product is almost in the cure zone, if you will. It can be slowly brought to optimum RH by opening the lid for 2-4 hours.

60-65% RH - the stems snap, the product feels a bit sticky, and it is curing.

55-60% RH - at this point it can be stored for an extended period (3 months or more) without worrying about mold. The product will continue to cure.

Below 55% RH - the RH is too low for the curing process to take place. The product starts to feel brittle. Once you've hit this point, nothing will make it better. Adding moisture won't restart the curing process; it will just make the product wet. If you measure a RH below 55% don't panic. Read below:

Obviously, the product need time to sweat in the jar. As such, accurate readings won't be seen for ~24 hours, assuming the flowers are in the optimal cure zone. If you're curing the product for long-term storage, give the flowers 4-5 days for an accurate reading. If the product is sill very wet, a +70% RH reading will show within hours. If you see the RH rising ~1% per hour, keep a close eye on the product, as it's likely too moist.

 

[Macgyverup]

MacG,

I think I may have gotten this originally from Brother Blue, but I believe it's from another post here on 420 and it's some great info on curing:

Great info and thanks for the help!