Dark Matter, Red Sky, Chunky Cherry Thai, BP Skunk In LOS

[StoneOtter]

I found the same when I added a layer of mulch material (pea straw) to my pots last year. Previously without mulch that top layer would dry out and no real root growth was seen but when mulch was added, there grew such a vigorous growth of roots all thru the previously dry top layer, it made me think it was a good thing and created further root mass to support the growing buds.

Some of those plain coloured seeds can end up sprouting perfectly fine. The good thing is they're only small and take no space, it'd be different if every seed was the size of a coconut then you'd have to biff 'em to reduce the required storage, but it's nice with our favourite plant seeds that hundreds can fit in a small space.
Good going on making them and hopefully you've trained that duck to watch out for the mice!

Little things like the mulch add up in the end especially with a patrolling duck who is reportedly very lucky!

 

[Azimuth]

Hey Stone,

I've found a very simple and super effective solution for keeping the dreaded damping off at bay: presoak the seed in, and mist the top of the medium with, a light spray of fresh worm casting extract. Not sure if it would work with dried castings, but the fresh stuff works great!

Amy Gardner sent me your way to ask about using LOS in smaller pots. I grow in a cabinet and my max pot size is 1 gal. I've read that with organics the bigger the pot the better and, at least with the Coots mix, the minimum pot size is recommended to be 7 gals or more.

Can the LOS be successfully used with 1 gal pots? And if so, any adjustments to mix, watering, or anything else to make it work better?

Azi

 

[StoneOtter]

Hey Stone,

I've found a very simple and super effective solution for keeping the dreaded damping off at bay: presoak the seed in, and mist the top of the medium with, a light spray of fresh worm casting extract. Not sure if it would work with dried castings, but the fresh stuff works great!

Amy Gardner sent me your way to ask about using LOS in smaller pots. I grow in a cabinet and my max pot size is 1 gal. I've read that with organics the bigger the pot the better and, at least with the Coots mix, the minimum pot size is recommended to be 7 gals or more.

Can the LOS be successfully used with 1 gal pots? And if so, any adjustments to mix, watering, or anything else to make it work better?

Azi

Hi Azi, welcome! I'll keep worm casting juice in mind thanks!

I've grown a godfather og last grow in a one gallon pot in LOS however I needed help and I used something called Geoflora the whole flower time. I may have used Geoflora once or twice in veg as well on that one, I forget. The Geoflora is made to feed the way LOS way so it's ok to use as far as I can tell. That experimental plant made seeds and about 3/4 of an ounce of bud that I'm super happy with. Just what I asked of it. I bet you could grow in the 1 gal pots and get an oz or two each if you topped and trained. Geoflora comes in Veg and Flower forms and can be gotten for the price of shipping for their trial 4 pound bags on their site I believe.

On a similar note, the author of the book, True Living Organics, I use feels strongly about 3 gallon self watering pots. I'm thinking you effectively can get done what he does in the 3 but with the help of Geoflora.
This is the one in the 1 gal pot. I kept her tall, you can keep them short, to be in the canopy with the rest of the grow. The purpose was to make seeds and the rest is a bonus. I pollinated one branch.

Where are you in the grow? Are you making LOS or buying?

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• StoneOtter
• Jan 12, 2021

GODFATHER OG

 

[Azimuth]

Hi Azi, welcome! I'll keep worm casting juice in mind thanks!

I've grown a godfather og last grow in a one gallon pot in LOS however I needed help and I used something called Geoflora the whole flower time. I may have used Geoflora once or twice in veg as well on that one, I forget. The Geoflora is made to feed the way LOS way so it's ok to use as far as I can tell. That experimental plant made seeds and about 3/4 of an ounce of bud that I'm super happy with. Just what I asked of it. I bet you could grow in the 1 gal pots and get an oz or two each if you topped and trained. Geoflora comes in Veg and Flower forms and can be gotten for the price of shipping for their trial 4 pound bags on their site I believe.

On a similar note, the author of the book, True Living Organics, I use feels strongly about 3 gallon self watering pots. I'm thinking you effectively can get done what he does in the 3 but with the help of Geoflora.
This is the one in the 1 gal pot. I kept her tall, you can keep them short, to be in the canopy with the rest of the grow. The purpose was to make seeds and the rest is a bonus. I pollinated one branch.

Where are you in the grow? Are you making LOS or buying?

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• StoneOtter
• Jan 12, 2021

GODFATHER OG

Thanks, Stone!

I have a homemade mix loosely based on the Coots mix and use 1qt (1L) containers for my mothers and veg, and the one gal (4L) self watering containers for flower. It IS my first rodeo with this style so my initial mix is 1/3 each sphagnum peat moss, aeration (the round clay balls), and the last third is (1/3 each leaf mold, compost and 50:50 fresh worm castings/biochar). But I'm wide open to suggestions as I really don't know what I'm doing yet with this whole organic thing.

I've read a lot but don't have much practical experience with the organics so trying to pick the brain of others who've had success with it.

I'm using the KNF (Korean Natural Farming) inputs and hoping between the plant and fish extracts, and the humus I add to my mix that I'll be able to have a decent grow. I really don't need much output as I only grow for me and don't really need that much medicine to deal with my issues, but also want to do what I can to grow a good garden without purchasing much in the way of bottled nutes.

Tell me your impression of the TLO book and whether you think it'll help me in the direction I'm headed.

 

[StoneOtter]

Thanks, Stone!

I have a homemade mix loosely based on the Coots mix and use 1qt (1L) containers for my mothers and veg, and the one gal (4L) self watering containers for flower. It IS my first rodeo with this style so my initial mix is 1/3 each sphagnum peat moss, aeration (the round clay balls), and the last third is (1/3 each leaf mold, compost and 50:50 fresh worm castings/biochar). But I'm wide open to suggestions as I really don't know what I'm doing yet with this whole organic thing.

I've read a lot but don't have much practical experience with the organics so trying to pick the brain of others who've has success with it.

I'm using the KNF (Korean Natural Farming) inputs and hoping between the plant and fish extracts, and the humus I add to my mix that I'll be able to have a decent grow. I really don't need much output as I only grow for me and don't really need that much medicine to deal with my issues, but also want to do what I can to grow a good garden without purchasing much in the way of bottled nutes.

Tell me your impression of the TLO book and whether you think it'll help me in the direction I'm headed.

The book saved me a lot of being over my head. At the time folks I knew weren't sharing their home made recipes and I wasn't understanding the common ones we see like coots. Being able to re-amend was a big thing. True Living Organics by The Rev made it possible for me. Emilya mentioned the book and I admired her grows and although she doesn't use his recipe's today I decided that there was a chance the book was complete enough it might get me through with help from Em and others here. I was right. The book and reading Skunk online mag with The Rev's musings is very complete. There's a learning curve like anything and I'm still there, but I have the book and everyone here for help. Some of my soil is 4 or 5 runs old now. So far so good. I'm all in to True Living Organics! I tell you I must have read the book 5 times(I'm a hard learn). There's a ton of information in there worth knowing.

 

[Azimuth]

Ok. Thanks. I've read a few of the Amazon reviews that are mostly pretty positive, but you never know if they're real or just marketing pieces.

Good to know it was worth it for you.

 

[StoneOtter]

Thanks, Stone!

I have a homemade mix loosely based on the Coots mix and use 1qt (1L) containers for my mothers and veg, and the one gal (4L) self watering containers for flower. It IS my first rodeo with this style so my initial mix is 1/3 each sphagnum peat moss, aeration (the round clay balls), and the last third is (1/3 each leaf mold, compost and 50:50 fresh worm castings/biochar). But I'm wide open to suggestions as I really don't know what I'm doing yet with this whole organic thing.

I've read a lot but don't have much practical experience with the organics so trying to pick the brain of others who've had success with it.

I'm using the KNF (Korean Natural Farming) inputs and hoping between the plant and fish extracts, and the humus I add to my mix that I'll be able to have a decent grow. I really don't need much output as I only grow for me and don't really need that much medicine to deal with my issues, but also want to do what I can to grow a good garden without purchasing much in the way of bottled nutes.

Tell me your impression of the TLO book and whether you think it'll help me in the direction I'm headed.

The KNF is another good organic way to grow. So sensible! I made some LAB and use it religiously during grows. Haven't made the other things though. I use it to compliment the Rev's method.

 

[StoneOtter]

Ok. Thanks. I've read a few of the Amazon reviews that are mostly pretty positive, but you never know if they're real or just marketing pieces.

Good to know it was worth it for you.

Do buy the book Azi if you decide to go this route. Until you decide you may find it free to download online. I found it somewhere once, I forget where. You can have a preview maybe. My copy is all tabbed up to the chapters important to me. I'm in it several times a year.

 

[StoneOtter]

Thanks, Stone!

I have a homemade mix loosely based on the Coots mix and use 1qt (1L) containers for my mothers and veg, and the one gal (4L) self watering containers for flower. It IS my first rodeo with this style so my initial mix is 1/3 each sphagnum peat moss, aeration (the round clay balls), and the last third is (1/3 each leaf mold, compost and 50:50 fresh worm castings/biochar). But I'm wide open to suggestions as I really don't know what I'm doing yet with this whole organic thing.

I've read a lot but don't have much practical experience with the organics so trying to pick the brain of others who've had success with it.

I'm using the KNF (Korean Natural Farming) inputs and hoping between the plant and fish extracts, and the humus I add to my mix that I'll be able to have a decent grow. I really don't need much output as I only grow for me and don't really need that much medicine to deal with my issues, but also want to do what I can to grow a good garden without purchasing much in the way of bottled nutes.

Tell me your impression of the TLO book and whether you think it'll help me in the direction I'm headed.

Here's what the soil looks like.

Exceptionally High FECO Yields

The first two cultivars of our next study have popped thru the surface. We have a stout looking Northern Lights we will call NL #1, and a small but pretty Ocean Grown Girl Scout Cookies we will call GSC #1. When the seedlings were buried we had not yet observed a tap root for the second GSC...

www.420magazine.com

 

[Azimuth]

No pics came thru, at least on my phone but I'll have a look next time I'm on the computer.

And great idea about the on line version of the book to get a sneak peak to make sure it's what I want. I read a bunch on my Kindle but, like you, I prefer hard copies especially for books I'm going to reference over and over.

Great tip!

 

[Azimuth]

I'd like to have a better grounding in the theory of how it all comes together but, like I do with most things, I'll probably end up with my own version of things I can put together myself once I better understand the broader and finer points.

I know the recipes are well proven and substituting things may have unintended consequences, but....

 

[StoneOtter]

I'd like to have a better grounding in the theory of how it all comes together but, like I do with most things, I'll probably end up with my own version of things I can put together myself once I better understand the broader and finer points.

I know the recipes are well proven and substituting things may have unintended consequences, but....

I'm able to understand some things and have changed things up a bit to make my life easier, for instance, using real growers recharge and other microbes instead of brewing my own aact's. I'm lazy like that. This soil produced 13 dry ounces in a 7 gallon cloth bag a couple of grows ago with nothing but microbes added, and spikes. Granted that plant was especially productive, I find it amazing the soil held up.

 

[Azimuth]

The cloth bags are something I'll probably look into down the road. I like to run a continuous harvest grow with one harvest per month or so, and a couple of strains at a time. My cabinet is about 20" deep, so that's 2 pots deep each one 9-10" across, and three pots wide as the cab is about 36" wide.

I could probably get 2 or 3 gallon cloth bags that fill the same horizontal space more efficiently, but just haven't done any research into them yet.

Good idea, though.

 

[StoneOtter]

GOOD SUNDAY EVERYONE!

BONSAI MOTHER CHECK AND MAJOR TRIM TIME

These Stankberry mother trainers were getting a pretty large biomass. Watering every other day. Geoflora every two weeks or so. I need to make a log for these! A few grains of epsom salts each watering. This is the first trim (major clone taking event) on these two. I got around 25 cuts from each of them that I would have cloned up. In the spirit of not knowing how they will like the trim I took a clone and started the process. I don't want to lose this version of Stankberry!
Here's how one looked before and after my first taking of clones.
Before

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• StoneOtter
• Jan 24, 2021

First bonsai trim day.

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• StoneOtter
• Jan 24, 2021

First bonsai trim day.

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• StoneOtter
• Jan 24, 2021

First bonsai trim day.

After

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• StoneOtter
• Jan 24, 2021

First bonsai trim day.

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• StoneOtter
• Jan 24, 2021

First bonsai trim day.

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• StoneOtter
• Jan 24, 2021

First bonsai trim day.

I'm going to try feeding them one more time and see how they look. Pretty soon it's time to trim roots and fill with new medium. They should tell me when. They may be starting now and with the trim, quelled for a time? We'll see. Bonsai!

 

[Bode]

Highya SO,

Very nice update! Mother is looking a little ragged, but with the trim and root work, she'll come back very nicely! How many clones did you take? Just curious. You must like the Stankberry strain. What's your take on the smoke? I may run a couple this summer. Happy Smokin'

 

[StoneOtter]

Highya SO,

Very nice update! Mother is looking a little ragged, but with the trim and root work, she'll come back very nicely! How many clones did you take? Just curious. You must like the Stankberry strain. What's your take on the smoke? I may run a couple this summer. Happy Smokin'

Hey Bode, Between the two bonsai trainers i took about 50 cuts I thought would have made it into a rooted plant. For me that was more than enough. I guess I could have made the mothers smaller. Maybe next time I'll trim off a branch. These trainers are training me.

We both like the stankberry a lot. It's not narcotic If you will. Very powerful though, thought provoking ++. Stank described it as a balanced high, I'd agree, mind and body get the message equally, and it works on our pains pretty good too. The mix is durban poison x blueberry. I got one that is especially generous giving us 13 oz in a 7 gal pot with 69 veg days and I think 70 flower days. That's a miracle in LOS in my house so I decided to try mothering it. We'll see where it goes. This plant deserves to grow for a while. I hope I can hold her for a while. There's no telling what and where or when we're headed when we get immunized but the cabin fever's starting to come on strong. Abandoning the ship could happen. Good news, Our daughter and her man moved in the apartment downstairs yesterday. My garden insurance policy.

 

[InTheShed]

Nice cleanup on aisle 2! And I may have to grow a Stankberry this year after your description of it. Have you tried the DTF and if so, how would you say it compares in effects?

 

[StoneOtter]

Nice cleanup on aisle 2! And I may have to grow a Stankberry this year after your description of it. Have you tried the DTF and if so, how would you say it compares in effects?

Stanks DTF is next I want to try. So , can't say not knowing.

 

[InTheShed]

It's one of my wife's two faves. That and the Sour G (Sour Diesel x GG#4 x THC Bomb). And I have a lot of different varieties here!

 

[StoneOtter]

It's one of my wife's two faves. That and the Sour G (Sour Diesel x GG#4 x THC Bomb). And I have a lot of different varieties here!

I was thinking of putting one in outdoors this summer, a DTF. I have so many new to me plants I want to grow.