Creating Female Seeds Using Colloidal Silver - With High Brix

They turned yellow and popped open. The flowers in the container with the pollen are what fell off the plant when I shook it over the cardboard. I plucked out most of them before refrigerating for storage, but not all.
 
Heirloom said:
Hey guys, been away a little while. Good to see you're getting pollen Gov.

I can report success with STS on a Dark Devil. Maybe one day I can come back around to trying ionic colloidal silver. If so I will make it rather than buy it.
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welcome back heirloom..good to see you around again. :thumb:
 
Mpfstc said:
Did your pollen sacs turn yellow and open when they were ready or did you cut them off while they were green? They look green in the photo above.
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Here are a few pics of the reversal plant well into the project. You can somewhat see the different colors as the flowering progression takes place...

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The pictures can be somewhat deceiving, but the flower bits in the tin up the page were pretty dry when I snapped the pic, so the colors will be dulled a bit.
 
Nice. Thanks. I have been watching mine a few times a day since they became noticeable. They are getting larger and the color has changed from a dark green to a lighter shade. If my guess is right they should start to open soon. I will post a few pictures later to see what you think. Female parts of the plant are starting to pick up their pace as well. Fingers crossed!
 
Mpfstc said:
I have read a little bit on pollen collection and storage but I would really like some opinions from people here. Best collection practices/methods? Best storage practices methods?
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I shared some info recently on this in my current journal. The main things to keep in mind. Any moisture and your pollen is ruined. So I like to store my pollen in 10ml tincture tinted vials which are pretty cheap that I store in my fridge. I throw in a couple grains of rice to absorb any moisture build up and have had pollen last past 14 months using this storage technique. Collection... there are a couple trains of thought. depending if you have them in a room with a female or not. If not you want a clean dry room. I personally like to make tubular taped containment vessels made from preferably parchment paper due to how light it is. You can use A4 but might need some assistant in keeping the stems upright. For increased levels of collection its best to put these on before you cut off the stalks from the main plant. As they open and close while being contained by paper. After a day or two cut them off. Give them a shake and collect your pollen. If using Parchment you will need to keep your humidity under 30% as they are less efficient at absorbing moisture than A4 paper is.

Here is a visual aid to assist you to visualize what I'm getting at. Though I cut them off as I had no mean to prop them up. The A4 and tape are somewhat too heavy for young male stems to hold on their own. I was unable to find my bamboo sticks to assist in holding them up

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A LATE EDIT: I didn't finish my train of thought in regards to a clean and dry room. My head is sensitive to the head. Clean should be standard. I say this because something I do on the odd occasion is to take two length of parchment paper at legnths of 12 x 8 inch pieces. Cut side way into the middle on the longest length. By this I mean to not cut down it length wise. I then slip each piece around the base of the stem prop up the corners so they don't droop and keep off the containment home made pieces of paper. I do this when I have the allocated space for males to measure the rate in which they produce pollen and at what volume. It helps when doing regular breedings to map out genetic based traits past down through the generations. This is one of a handful of variables I take into account when producing stabilized genetics.

This variable would only be of interest to you if you were cross breeding your fem seeds. So that means to a F1 fem who is not related to the fem you are feminizing.
 
I noticed some of my pollen sacs are opening but there doesn't appear to be anything inside of them. Some green ones have even fallen off. Is this normal?
 
I've never had them open on their own with no pollen inside. My issue has always been them not opening and falling off. I'm hoping the minor changes I've done this round will fix that.

Update on my 2 Bubblegums. They are now at Day 21 of flower cycle and haven't been sprayed for 8 days now (total of 15 days sprayed). The leggy, branchy pheno has some resin all over her leaves and a couple bud sites I must have missed with the cs. The not so branch pheno looks full blown male with no resin. I'm hoping some sacs will burst open with some pollen in the next week here.
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They still don't seem to have any pollen in them. They open up and eventually fall off but appear to be empty even when I look at them under my pocket microscope.
 
Mpfstc said:
DrZiggy, Gov do you guys have any ideas?
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Sorry, Ive been away for a few days. Out of state, visiting family. On the male flowers shooting blanks...hmmm. I really can't say. It seems unusual to have a plant reverse and build the hormones necessary to form male flowers yet not make pollen. I'll look around and see if I can find something. Right now, I've no clue.
 
Mpfstc said:
I put an oscillating fan right on her. So if the sacs do have pollen then the fan should do the pollinating for me. Fingers crossed.
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That'll do it :) My Sweet God and Scott's OG were done that way. Not exactly on purpose lol. Both are coming down this weekend. I'm guessing I'll pull around 1000 seeds from each easy. Figure around 20-30% will be useless. Still not a bad haul or cross.. the father is Permafrost. I'm not so sure how the SG will mix, but I'm pretty excited about the SOG :) Not so excited about cleaning everything :icon_roll

Good vibes! :Namaste:
 
hey hey all, awesome thread here. you guys n gals are doing fantastic work of making seeds.

so i'm throwing my hat in the ring too. hopefully, lol.

here it is. dutch treat auto fems are the gear I started with. homemade colloidal silver started spraying on june 8. first ball showed on Monday or Tuesday this week. tonight they are full blown nanners. too soon you think??

I say hopefully because I had to cull a boy 2 days ago from my perpetual grow. that may have been just one bad apple in the bunch. I hope. well good or bad, she will be the one I go with I figger. unless someone says "whoa there son, you got a baby boy there for sure".

then I have a backup plan. it is perpetual, so a new germed seed gets planted every second day. so I have new ones all the time I can go to. that and I also have since received some colloidal silver I ordered. 500 ppm. which I will dilute at 6:1. wasn't too sure on the homemade stuff, so I ordered after I started spraying but before nanners showed.

any idears, let me know. heres some (prolly too many) pics for ya'll to peruse.

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heres the garden 2 days ago before defol.
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second last image you can see the boy that was culled after this pic was taken. he is on the right side third in from the end. bugger.
the one with the upside down solo shot cup is "silver girl", the star of this post, and receiver of spray.

lets hear what ya'll think on the sex of her. I think she is a she but flipped. am I wrong? she's being moved out tomorrow, nanners are getting very ready.
 
Mpfstc said:
DrZiggy, Gov do you guys have any ideas?
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I had the same thing happen with my last CS test, I thought i got pollen as the sacks opened but seems it did not do anything, thought i had pollen but may have been broken trichs lol, anyways i used this to pollinate another plant, has now been 60 days and still no signs of seeds. I have a feeling it was a combination of a few things, i started spraying CS too late, my CS may not have been strong enough or i did not treat them enough times.
 
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