Couldn't Resist A Christmas Auto Grow

[InTheShed]

"anti-inflammatory, antioxidant, antinociceptive, anticancer, antidiabetic, antihyperalgesic, antiviral, and gastroprotective effects, among other beneficial effects in health" is not too shabby!

Can you squeeze the plants closer together to get them closer to the center of the light? They're looking great but since they didn't complain when you lowered the light they might be able to use even more!

 

[Carmen Ray]

"anti-inflammatory, antioxidant, antinociceptive, anticancer, antidiabetic, antihyperalgesic, antiviral, and gastroprotective effects, among other beneficial effects in health" is not too shabby!

Can you squeeze the plants closer together to get them closer to the center of the light? They're looking great but since they didn't complain when you lowered the light they might be able to use even more!

I was actually wondering if I could lower the light a bit more, or would that be silly? I have them as close together as I can get them because of the tubs they're in.

Here is some feedback I received on the soil @Gee64 . I thought you'd find this interesting. I think your idea of cooking in the essential blend a month before planting is the best option given the conditions.

"Good Afternoon Carmen

I trust this email finds you well. My name is Dale and I've been appointed to bring any clarity you need on using Biobizz Bloom and Orgasoilux together.

The Orgasoilux is actually not a true "Super Soil" and only has a lifespan of feeding for about 6 months - straight out of a 30lt bag. The moment you split your bag between 2 pots, the food longevity is reduced to 3 months. As much as this sounds like a disadvantage, it actually allows the grower more control of the flowering phase. The plants will grow in the soil, depleting the nutrients available, and as soon as your plants enter flowering phase, it will stop using a lot of nitrogen, almost entirely (which is responsible for the green colour and plant strength), and starts consuming more phosphorus and potassium (both which is used to develop, grow and ripen flowers and fruits). When the plant seeks extra nitrogen it will take up the leftover in the soil but more importantly it will take it from the leaves and draw it into the flower which gives the flower a better smell, flavour and size.

The reason Biobizz Bloom, I believe, was recommended was because it has an NKP of: 2-7-4 which is high in phosphorus and potassium but low in nitrogen. The Biobizz Bloom will effectively cover the plants needs with its minimal Nitrogen but assuredly feed the flowers with the best ratio of Phosphorus and Potassium. Its low Nitrogen will make sure the plant will not starve for Nitrogen needs. Biobizz Bloom also has kelp and molasses in it for root and shoot growth.

Most of my clients who use Orgasoilux will flower with either Biobizz Bloom or the Madagascan Bat Guano.

I trust this mail will help you. Kindly let me know if there is anything else we can assist you with.

Kind Regards

Dale"

 

[InTheShed]

I was actually wondering if I could lower the light a bit more, or would that be silly? I have them as close together as I can get them because of the tubs they're in.

I forgot about the tubs! Lower the light a bit every day until the leaves complain and then raise it back to yesterday's height. And rotate the plants 180° every day as well to account for the falloff of light at the edges.

The Orgasoilux is actually not a true "Super Soil" and only has a lifespan of feeding for about 6 months - straight out of a 30lt bag. The moment you split your bag between 2 pots, the food longevity is reduced to 3 months.

This makes no sense. How quickly your plant depletes the soil of nutrients depends on its size, and he has no idea how big your plants are.

as soon as your plants enter flowering phase, it will stop using a lot of nitrogen, almost entirely

This isn't true, and neither is the need for a big boost in P, as shown in the charts from tissue analysis on cannabis plants in veg and flower.

 

[Gee64]

I was actually wondering if I could lower the light a bit more, or would that be silly? I have them as close together as I can get them because of the tubs they're in.

Here is some feedback I received on the soil @Gee64 . I thought you'd find this interesting. I think your idea of cooking in the essential blend a month before planting is the best option given the conditions.

"Good Afternoon Carmen

I trust this email finds you well. My name is Dale and I've been appointed to bring any clarity you need on using Biobizz Bloom and Orgasoilux together.

The Orgasoilux is actually not a true "Super Soil" and only has a lifespan of feeding for about 6 months - straight out of a 30lt bag. The moment you split your bag between 2 pots, the food longevity is reduced to 3 months. As much as this sounds like a disadvantage, it actually allows the grower more control of the flowering phase. The plants will grow in the soil, depleting the nutrients available, and as soon as your plants enter flowering phase, it will stop using a lot of nitrogen, almost entirely (which is responsible for the green colour and plant strength), and starts consuming more phosphorus and potassium (both which is used to develop, grow and ripen flowers and fruits). When the plant seeks extra nitrogen it will take up the leftover in the soil but more importantly it will take it from the leaves and draw it into the flower which gives the flower a better smell, flavour and size.

The reason Biobizz Bloom, I believe, was recommended was because it has an NKP of: 2-7-4 which is high in phosphorus and potassium but low in nitrogen. The Biobizz Bloom will effectively cover the plants needs with its minimal Nitrogen but assuredly feed the flowers with the best ratio of Phosphorus and Potassium. Its low Nitrogen will make sure the plant will not starve for Nitrogen needs. Biobizz Bloom also has kelp and molasses in it for root and shoot growth.

Most of my clients who use Orgasoilux will flower with either Biobizz Bloom or the Madagascan Bat Guano.

I trust this mail will help you. Kindly let me know if there is anything else we can assist you with.

Kind Regards

Dale"

The soil with the recommended amendments, I think, if they are mixed in well before the soil gets used so tbey can cook, looks pretty good to me.

Thats what I would use, and Shed is right, you still need nitrogen, just not too much, and you do need a bit more phosphorus, but not as much as they want you to believe. The soil needs to already have that phosphorus in it in LOS, and those ammendments that are meant to go with the soil will take care of that.

As for him saying that the plant will use its own nitrogen from the leaves and it makes the weed taste better, well thats true too, but only in the last couple weeks when the plant slows its drinking and starts to finish, and the plant will do that on its own.

Every leaf you lose now is 1 less leaf to photosynthesize with in flower, when you need more photosynthesis.

 

[Carmen Ray]

I forgot about the tubs! Lower the light a bit every day until the leaves complain and then raise it back to yesterday's height. And rotate them 180° every day as well to account for the falloff of light at the edges.

Ok, tyvm Shed.

This makes no sense. How quickly your plant depletes the soil of nutrients depends on its size, and he has no idea how big your plants are.

They employ kids with a modicum of knowledge and I have been less than satisfied with service at a number of retail outfits. Ty again!

This isn't true,.and neither is the need for a big boost in P, as shown in the charts from tissue analysis on cannabis plants in veg and flower.

Right. Gee took a good look at what's in the products and so I'm going to try his suggestion next grow. It's all just experimenting really, until I find the best and simplest solution to growing meds. I'm impressed with how the Red Russian is doing in this soil so far, with the additions I have made now and then.

 

[Carmen Ray]

The soil with the recommended amendments, I think, if they are mixed in well before the soil gets used so tbey can cook, looks pretty good to me.

Thats what I would use, and Shed is right, you still need nitrogen, just not too much, and you do need a bit more phosphorus, but not as much as they want you to believe. The soil needs to already have that phosphorus in it in LOS, and those ammendments that are meant to go with the soil will take care of that.

As for him saying that the plant will use its own nitrogen from the leaves and it makes the weed taste better, well thats true too, but only in the last couple weeks when the plant slows its drinking and starts to finish, and the plant will do that on its own.

Every leaf you lose now is 1 less leaf to photosynthesize with in flower, when you need more photosynthesis.

Thank you Gee, I am mainly tucking leaves and one or two tip snips if they get in the way. I think the nitrogen issue in the Skywalker Kush is sorted. She is pushing out nice little white pistils and trichomes.

 

[Gee64]

Excellent news Carmen! I'm glad she is doing better. Good job on the recovery

 

[StoneOtter]

They both look fine and getting bulky Carmen!

 

[Lerugged]

Winning

 

[Nev]

Carmen your RR is really coming into her own! I love she is starting to get all chubby on you. She’s going to be bringing you some good medication.

 

[Carmen Ray]

Excellent news Carmen! I'm glad she is doing better. Good job on the recovery

Thanks Gee, couldn't have done it without you.

They both look fine and getting bulky Carmen!

Thanks Otter!

Winning

Thanks cuz!

Carmen your RR is really coming into her own! I love she is starting to get all chubby on you. She’s going to be bringing you some good medication.

Thanks Nev! I really like it when you are around in the neighbourhood. Thanks for popping in

 

[Carmen Ray]

Wednesday February 8th - moved light closer to plants

I moved the light closer to the plants and dropped it a few inches lower than it was. It is now 10 cm (4 inches) above the tallest branch on the Red Russian and 18 cm (7 inches) above the tallest branch of the Skywalker Kush. I thought of putting some books under the bottom to raise that plant a bit but honestly she is not producing enough to warrant break her attachment to the swick to get the job done... pity because I had some good ones picked out I will monitor the leaves to see if the light is too close for them and move them up a bit if needs be.

I also got another recommendation for a product when I asked if they have monosilicic acid.

"We have a product that is quite similar to monosilicic acid. Ours is a Potassium Silicate and functions in the same way any monosilicic acid would"

This is my first question: I wouldn't want to be adding Potassium in veg would I?
I think my second question would ordinarily be: Can this product take the place of straight monosilicic acid? But in this case I think I have my answer already, having been reading about it in @InTheShed use of it in his perpetual journal. I would guess that this product would not adequately take the place of straight monosilicic acid, and could in fact harm the plant if used at the wrong times. Am I right?

 

[Weffalo]

Loving the photographs Carmen, looking super clean and healthy

 

[InTheShed]

"We have a product that is quite similar to monosilicic acid. Ours is a Potassium Silicate and functions in the same way any monosilicic acid would"

Is this the same guy as before? Y'know, the one with the screwy answers?

Potassium silicate doesn't function the same way MSA does on a number of points:
It has potassium (as you mentioned), which you may or may not want depending on whether you need it.

It will raise the pH of your water if that matters.

It will precipitate out any other nutrients in the water.

It needs to be broken down by bacteria before the silica is available.

MSA does none of those things and is immediately available to the plant. It is harder to find and much more expensive.

Quite similar? You decide!

 

[Carmen Ray]

Is this the same guy as before? Y'know, the one with the screwy answers?

Potassium silicate doesn't function the same way MSA does on a number of points:
It has potassium (as you mentioned), which you may or may not want depending on whether you need it.

It will raise the pH of your water if that matters.

It will precipitate out any other nutrients in the water.

It needs to be broken down by bacteria before the silica is available.

MSA does none of those things and is immediately available to the plant. It is harder to find and much more expensive.

Quite similar? You decide!

Cray-cray... I have been to several different vendors and got poor advice. At least I know the soil is good and so is the soil guy
Thank you Shed for putting that to rights. I will hang in until I find the real deal.

 

[Lerugged]

Just stick with these fine people here for good advice.
Shed just saved you some bucks and your plants with some solid advice. These vendors are just taking advantage of the craze here now that it's legal to grow. It's a green rush and they seem to know very little about anything yet seem to be happy to give advice out if it sells their kak products. Shocking.
Stick with growers you know and trust. Most of what gets spoken about can be ordered online. And cheaper sometimes.
It's about time some breeze hit the city. Was a cooker this side.
Have a goodie gromes

 

[Carmen Ray]

Loving the photographs Carmen, looking super clean and healthy

Thank you Weff!

Just stick with these fine people here for good advice.
Shed just saved you some bucks and your plants with some solid advice. These vendors are just taking advantage of the craze here now that it's legal to grow. It's a green rush and they seem to know very little about anything yet seem to be happy to give advice out if it sells their kak products. Shocking.
Stick with growers you know and trust. Most of what gets spoken about can be ordered online. And cheaper sometimes.
It's about time some breeze hit the city. Was a cooker this side.
Have a goodie gromes

Thank you LR! You guys always save me bucks and time with your help. Following your many grows over the years I know who's advice I can take without hesitation and I am so lucky that the people who sub to this thread are willing to give of their time to help and advise. Honestly, I hope anyone reading this will take a look at the journals of the people who contribute in here! They are awesome!

@InTheShed please have a look at these leaves and tell me if they are a bit too hot? I don't see any sign of burning anywhere. Those pistils don't look like they are frying. What is your opinion? Should I leave the light where it is? It's been running overnight now.

 

[InTheShed]

They look a bit more turned up at the edges than before so I'd say they're complaining!

 

[Carmen Ray]

They look a bit more turned up at the edges than before so I'd say they're complaining!

raise it half way back to where it was this time yesterday?

 

[InTheShed]

Or back to where it was depending on how far you dropped it.