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[Conradino23]

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Hey Conrad, just getting caught up here. Your plants look perfect! I am definitely interested in those Lebi's. Where did you get those seeds from? Of all the seed shopping I do, I don't think I've ever come across a Lebanese strain.

Look up Real Seed Company (RSC) from UK.

 

[Conradino23]

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Guerilla grow goals Great looking plants conrad, looks like you'll be having a bountiful harvest of hopefully pest free organic sun grown cannabis

Since I've switched to HB soil my pest problems dropped to minimum and sometimes to zero. What I still cannot tackle with soil composition alone are thrips in my windowsill plants and boreres in my full season ones. These don't care much how strong/healthy your plants are, but fortunately they've been only affecting small part of my harvest. My goal for this season is at least 8 lbs total, but we'll see.

 

[ilikemsticky]

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conrad i just went on the real seed co. site they dont ship to us damm!

 

[Tomster420]

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Since I've switched to HB soil my pest problems dropped to minimum and sometimes to zero. What I still cannot tackle with soil composition alone are thrips in my windowsill plants and boreres in my full season ones. These don't care much how strong/healthy your plants are, but fortunately they've been only affecting small part of my harvest. My goal for this season is at least 8 lbs total, but we'll see.

If you give your plants the right love they will be almost pest/disease resistant, this is easy as an organic grower IMHO I've personally never had a problem with thrips so I can't chime in on that part. The borers have affected me last outdoor season, nothing to serious but they were anoying to deal with and as you say nothing seems to deter them. Keeping an eye on them and making sure nothing gets too deep is all you can do really, well I don't know any otherwise but if I find out I'll let you know 8 lbs sounds pretty nice for one person

 

[ilikemsticky]

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conrad i found those seeds on seedman, lebanese from real seed co. they werent cheap 42.00 for 5 regs i've got them coming thanks for the heads up!

 

[Radogast]

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Since I've switched to HB soil my pest problems dropped to minimum and sometimes to zero. What I still cannot tackle with soil composition alone are thrips in my windowsill plants and boreres in my full season ones. These don't care much how strong/healthy your plants are, but fortunately they've been only affecting small part of my harvest. My goal for this season is at least 8 lbs total, but we'll see.

The quality and health of your guerilla grow is almost unheard of. Your girls are beautiful.

It makes sense that you attribute this to the Doc Bud HiBrix soil.

Still, the beauty of your plants is almost unmatched.

 

[Conradino23]

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If you give your plants the right love they will be almost pest/disease resistant, this is easy as an organic grower IMHO I've personally never had a problem with thrips so I can't chime in on that part. The borers have affected me last outdoor season, nothing to serious but they were anoying to deal with and as you say nothing seems to deter them. Keeping an eye on them and making sure nothing gets too deep is all you can do really, well I don't know any otherwise but if I find out I'll let you know 8 lbs sounds pretty nice for one person

I think it's slightly more complicated than that and has much more to do with keeping things balanced, which is easier said than done. It took me years to get where I am now with many roads that got to be dead ends. I'm gonna spray BT for borers this year, it's something that I did once and I should give it another chance. However there's so much corn being grown around that I'm gonna have to be very lucky to see none of them. Fingers crossed.

conrad i found those seeds on seedman, lebanese from real seed co. they werent cheap 42.00 for 5 regs i've got them coming thanks for the heads up!

Glad you found them. I can't even say how Leb smokes at this point, but hopefully I'm gonna find something exceptional in this strain. I'm really after hash here, so if it doesn't make a good hash I'm gonna probably drop it. Indicas have always been plants for sifting dry resin and I feel it's the only way to go with them. It really elevates the quality of bud, which most of the time is too thick and too leafy to be enjoyed properly without processing.

The quality and health of your guerilla grow is almost unheard of. Your girls are beautiful.

It makes sense that you attribute this to the Doc Bud HiBrix soil.

Still, the beauty of your plants is almost unmatched.

Yeah I can definitely say that Doc showed me the way. It was High Brix element that was missing in my method and it catapulted me to completely different level. I can say that what I've grown before was pretty good, but what I'm getting now is excellent. The thing is that by applying few simple HB rules to my soil I cut fertilisation probably by 75% and got superior quality, which just screams YOU HAVE OVERDONE THINGS FOR SUCH A LONG TIME, IDIOT! But then the truth is my soil needs only a slight tweak to be perfect. The reason why you don't usually see such healthy plants in guerilla grows (not even in outdoor garden grows) is that 90% of growers don't grow directly in the ground, but use pots and potting "soil", which mostly doesn't resemble real soil and it never will. Real soil has certain composition, strata with different mineral/microbial content that have been piling up for billions of years and you can't replicate that by cooking stuff in your basement. In fact even when I grow in pots I use the same soil. And this is where magic of landrace bud came from when it was still around. Mexican, Thai or Colombian growers didn't have a Western analytical mind or scientific tools to help them apply the right stuff at the right time, but they had climate, soil and plants that were in perfect harmony with both above, which bridged the gap.

 

[ilikemsticky]

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hey conrad it's funny you would say that about the lebs thats exactly what i dad in mind for them of course i will burn some and see what it's like never no i like a good bedtime smoke will see!

 

[Gauge Steel]

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Stopped by today for another look. Those UD's with quad colas are unforgettable.

Thanks Conradino!

Gauge

 

[Big Sur]

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Thanks, your comments about Durban Poison are making me re-consider it for the fully legal future. With the exchange on the Canadian dollar works out to $43 US for 5 feminized seeds. For $43 it seems worthy of a test.

Need to be careful with Durbans. There are a lot of worked strains out there. And the land races are crazy bloomers (look on my 70s landrace strains thread for that). Basically as the story goes, Ed Rosen. brought Durban back from ZA and worked them for several generations, and handed off seeds to Mel Franks, who then worked them for several generations. Mel came up with an A and B Durban strain, A was better and remained (and may still remain) a clone only strain in the SF Bay Area (Mel is in Oakland). Strain B was shipped to Holland via seeds, where is was said to be re-worked and stabilized and crossed with 10-15% Skunk #1. Or so the story goes. I have crazy land race Durban seeds, a west coast cut that I got locally, and some seeds that I got locally in top grade Durban weed (but I do not know the father).

 

[Big Sur]

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DJ Short wrote that they were finishing around mid November in PNW. I don't know on what latitude he was growing back then, but I sure hope for a similar ballpark. It most likely depends on the pheno, I can bet there are early as well as late finishers.

I have found that most all Mexican and Colombian land races are stable, and basically are one pheno and bloom consistently. At least from my bag weed land race seeds that I have grown. Colombian gold was a wide spectrum name for several types of Colombian weed in the 70s and 80s as well. The 'real deal' Highland or Santa Marta Gold form southeast Colombia, which was almost yellow, and the red or brown that was actually lowland Colombian that was fermented when green and turned brown or gold in color and was sold as 'lombo gold. The there was the well cured lowland narco red and west coast speedy sativa green, and the Punta Roja and Punto Rojo, but they were rare, as was the Colombian Black. Colombian black was also called Wacky Weed. It was truely psychedelic. There is a cut of it going around up here now. Blooms late and finishes in December from what I have been told. The Colombian gold that I grew was gold. Early on the leaves turned a golden green color, and later it was dark gold all over.

DJ Short (who is actually tall) is a nebulous creature, and has lived in California, Canada, Oregon, and Europe. Last I heard he was divorced and living in Oregon. Most of his strains were developed for indoor growing as I recall, but if he was referring to growing outdoors in the PNW, it was likely near the 45th parallel, give or take a few degrees. I know a guy near here that said DJ grew Flo for him on a medical card. I do not know when that was though.

Jack Herer was also from Portland. His marijuana store closed recently as the owners are tearing it down to develop on Hawthorne Blvd. His son was running the store until it closed. Mel Franks (not his real name) was originally from NYC and Mass, but he moved to Oakland where he still lives I believe.

 

[Big Sur]

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They look very good. Just keep what you're doing and don't overwater.

Yes, overwatering is a problem with clones and seedlings. One reason I like to pot up my small clones and seedlings early is that way the soil will drain and the roots will not be saturated with too much water. They also grow like mad when they are that size. I have seen weed that size fill gallon pots with roots in a matter of 10 days. So I use 2 gallon pots now, and when they fill that I pop them into 15 gallon tubs.

Yeah that's pheno #2 in my book. It's the one I like better for more vigorous growth, better pest resistance and fair green foliage. There are supposed to be both high THC and high CBD phenos in this line with the latter ones most likely having some hemp genes as can be seen from the colour, structure and faint smell. If this is right then these ones will also start flowering earlier. It'd be actually fun to have some CBD bud at the end of the season, it may be good painkiller

Well, good. I got three of these shrubby ones. Two are at my brother's with their taller skinny sister that is starting to bloom now, according to him. Seems early. His fatties are mostly three lobed leaved and like mine, are not blooming yet.

 

[Big Sur]

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Look up Real Seed Company (RSC) from UK.

Last I looked, RSC does not ship to the USA though. I got mine through a friend in Europe.

 

[Conradino23]

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hey conrad it's funny you would say that about the lebs thats exactly what i dad in mind for them of course i will burn some and see what it's like never no i like a good bedtime smoke will see!

I guess we'll just have to see.

Stopped by today for another look. Those UD's with quad colas are unforgettable.

Thanks Conradino!

Gauge

Thx a lot, man. Since I got this strain from my buddy I didn't stop growing it for a second

Need to be careful with Durbans. There are a lot of worked strains out there. And the land races are crazy bloomers (look on my 70s landrace strains thread for that). Basically as the story goes, Ed Rosen. brought Durban back from ZA and worked them for several generations, and handed off seeds to Mel Franks, who then worked them for several generations. Mel came up with an A and B Durban strain, A was better and remained (and may still remain) a clone only strain in the SF Bay Area (Mel is in Oakland). Strain B was shipped to Holland via seeds, where is was said to be re-worked and stabilized and crossed with 10-15% Skunk #1. Or so the story goes. I have crazy land race Durban seeds, a west coast cut that I got locally, and some seeds that I got locally in top grade Durban weed (but I do not know the father).

Seems credible. It's a rare strain indeed although I've seen some seeds on the market recently that might be the real thing. One thing is sure though, DP always started to flower early and there are many growers actually saying it was often ready before indicas outdoor.

I have found that most all Mexican and Colombian land races are stable, and basically are one pheno and bloom consistently. At least from my bag weed land race seeds that I have grown. Colombian gold was a wide spectrum name for several types of Colombian weed in the 70s and 80s as well. The 'real deal' Highland or Santa Marta Gold form southeast Colombia, which was almost yellow, and the red or brown that was actually lowland Colombian that was fermented when green and turned brown or gold in color and was sold as 'lombo gold. The there was the well cured lowland narco red and west coast speedy sativa green, and the Punta Roja and Punto Rojo, but they were rare, as was the Colombian Black. Colombian black was also called Wacky Weed. It was truely psychedelic. There is a cut of it going around up here now. Blooms late and finishes in December from what I have been told. The Colombian gold that I grew was gold. Early on the leaves turned a golden green color, and later it was dark gold all over.

DJ Short (who is actually tall) is a nebulous creature, and has lived in California, Canada, Oregon, and Europe. Last I heard he was divorced and living in Oregon. Most of his strains were developed for indoor growing as I recall, but if he was referring to growing outdoors in the PNW, it was likely near the 45th parallel, give or take a few degrees. I know a guy near here that said DJ grew Flo for him on a medical card. I do not know when that was though.

Jack Herer was also from Portland. His marijuana store closed recently as the owners are tearing it down to develop on Hawthorne Blvd. His son was running the store until it closed. Mel Franks (not his real name) was originally from NYC and Mass, but he moved to Oakland where he still lives I believe.

That's what I see in my CG '72. They're almost identical with only one dwarfy pheno that's shorter and less vigorous, but that happens even with very stabilised lines and is a side effect of long inbreeding. I have few seeds left and I'm gonna run them next year to see if there's a consistency in this line. If the smoke lives up to its hype I may chuck some leftover UD pollen at one chosen female to cut flowering time and get a nice sativa-dominant test cross, I've done two with the same male and they came out rather nice.

Yes, overwatering is a problem with clones and seedlings. One reason I like to pot up my small clones and seedlings early is that way the soil will drain and the roots will not be saturated with too much water. They also grow like mad when they are that size. I have seen weed that size fill gallon pots with roots in a matter of 10 days. So I use 2 gallon pots now, and when they fill that I pop them into 15 gallon tubs.

Well, good. I got three of these shrubby ones. Two are at my brother's with their taller skinny sister that is starting to bloom now, according to him. Seems early. His fatties are mostly three lobed leaved and like mine, are not blooming yet.

Yes with young seedlings it's good to mist them every day or water very lightly until they are 7-10 days old at least.

Last I looked, RSC does not ship to the USA though. I got mine through a friend in Europe.

Well I didn't have a problem with that.

 

[Conradino23]

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BTW here are few screenshots from Phylos Galaxy, which are quite interesting for those who want to know their genetics and sometimes call bullshit on them.

Thai Stick (real deal)

Colombian Gold (real deal)

And Girl Scout Coookies (forum cut), which declared lineage of is Durban Poison x OG Kush... well there's OG in there all right, but DP not so much. It seems it's a straight Blueberry x OG cross

 

[Radogast]

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Thanks for the Phylos Galaxy Screenshots - that really put those strains in perspective

 

[Conradino23]

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You're welcome. I've been surfing it a bit again, cause they added a lot of new samples. They created a tool that soon will become decisive voice over what is what in cannabis world. It confirms things that we were well aware of, but it also disproves a lot of public claims showing how dishonest or confused the scene has become.

 

[NorCaliwood]

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I still say bad, better, and good weed is all there is... The three profiles I understand... Naw... Bad, good, or better tomatoes. Oh, wait I think there is a big difference between beefsteaks and cherry tomatoes. I understand all about terpene profiles, I've been throwing pine needles in my buds forever... JK, but I have been pulling them out,,, damn pine trees. I just think it'd be hard to tell what you have, unless it was grown in indigenous soils, and under the same sunlight spectrum, hell even rainfall from the same rain source.
I guess that's what a laboratory is for,,, unless your working with Boris Karloff. Hell they say they can say where ya from with alittle spit? Intresting. I do find that site and seed finder both intresting. Hope all's growing great there my friend. Keepem Green

 

[Radogast]

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You're welcome. I've been surfing it a bit again, cause they added a lot of new samples. They created a tool that soon will become decisive voice over what is what in cannabis world. It confirms things that we were well aware of, but it also disproves a lot of public claims showing how dishonest or confused the scene has become.

Honesty shows up as optional fairly soon.

I looked up Matanuska - they said their tested sample was clonally identical to tested samples labelled Hawaiian, Mowie Wowie, and Northshore Maui .

Mostly Skunk but also heavy Berry - - Did they evn have Berry strains when they sold the first Mowie Wowie ?

 

[Big Sur]

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Honesty shows up as optional fairly soon.

I looked up Matanuska - they said their tested sample was clonally identical to tested samples labelled Hawaiian, Mowie Wowie, and Northshore Maui .

Mostly Skunk but also heavy Berry - - Did they evn have Berry strains when they sold the first Mowie Wowie ?

Maui Waui was around before skunk was. Maui was said to be Thai sourced. The Maui I had was not that great though. Cane field grown. Kona Gold was said to be from Colombian Gold. Island lore.

Genetic profiling will be interesting.