Conradino23's Another Outdoor Grow With High Brix Soil - Air-Pots & SoCal Seed Stock

[Conradino23]

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Original Maui Wowie was a 50/50 cross between Afghani and Mexican landrace that came from Sinaloa via local drug lord that Brotherhood of Eternal Love was doing business with. Hawaii didn't have any cannabis growing before heads and surfers got there in the late 60s chasing the freedom, 10 foot waves or whatever. Later this name became synonymous with any strain grown in Hawaii while the original was lost or almost lost. Bluberry was first released in the 80s I think and since then it became a real staple for breeding together with Skunk #1. From what I saw in the Galaxy, Matanuska is a relative of both MW and Blue Dream. I don't know the history of the strain though.

 

[Big Sur]

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All of the Maui I had did not have any indica in it. Pure sativa. That was circa '78 when my brother lived in Wailuku. I also had a dishwasher working for me from Maui at that time that brought in fresh bud grown in the cane fields for us to smoke. It was not as good as the local California weed. When my brother lived on Maui I sent him sinsemilia from Morelos. NO ONE believed it was from the mainland. So he gave up and told them it was from Kauai. But I would imagine that there is going to be a lot of weed claiming to be Maui Waui out there.

 

[Big Sur]

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And I see a Kauai-Thai connection. So likely there was a lot of Thai grown on Maui as well.

 

[NorCaliwood]

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Thinking back to the 10 dollar lid days,, Both Mowie and CG were popular at up 30 a oz. I don't remember mention of a Blueberry back then or anyone growing anything close. Homegrown was a bad word in the early 70's. Most was premature crap grown outta Mexican seed stock. The first strains I grew was the Purple Hair Sensie. Whatever that was. That was the shit around the Emerald Triangle in the early 70's. Looking back at all the Thai stick, I mean good double dripped opiated Buddha stick Thai, and Black African Trip weed, that was available for 35 dollars a finger or about a 1/4 oz. All them top shelf herbs of them days were some interesting genetics. Or was it that I just was a newbie to the weed world and I got 'higher'? I miss them Buddha sticks. 7gram sticks, that tasted like you was smoking perfume, and you had the shit... Good Thai stick came in 3 1/2 gram sticks. Temple Balls of Black Hash and Finger Hash,, along with Black Bubblegum Hash from Germany.. Man was alot of good shit back then. Memory Lane............ Keepem Green

 

[Conradino23]

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Just by browsing through all genuine Colombian and Thai samples you can see these two are closely related. Kerala and Mexican show up there in the mix too. African strains share the same genes too, which means that either all South American sativas are Asian imports or they made a short stop in Africa before they got there, but South Eastern Asia seems to be the point of origin for skinny leaf drug cultivars.

 

[Conradino23]

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And here are few pics of my Colombian gal before I finally took her down yesterday night

 

[ilikemsticky]

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morning conrad,are you going to do a smoke report on that girl,i remember the 10$ lid or some guy's called it a can we smoked tons of that stuff most of it was pretty much the same but one time our guy got some with a lot of red hairs and no seeds that was pretty good,and the thai sticks the best weed i ever did was some sticks i got back in the late 70s or early eighties it made several of my freinds throwup it was so potent probably some of those dipped in whatever but that shit was the kind!

 

[Governmentchz]

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Thinking back to the 10 dollar lid days,, Both Mowie and CG were popular at up 30 a oz.

I bought my first ounce of CG in Tampa for $30 in 1977...lmao

 

[Radogast]

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I bought my first ounce of CG in Tampa for $30 in 1977...lmao

I drag this photo out about once a year, but since Conradino just harvested ... (+reps sir, excellent thread)


Rolled from the first baggie ($35?) I ever purchased

I figured if I'd I ever opened a business, I would frame it and hang it on the wall

Back then, marijuana possession was an infraction in California. You could get a ticket and the cops would take your weed.

 

[ilikemsticky]

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I drag this photo out about once a year, but since Conradino just harvested ... (+reps sir, excellent thread)


Rolled from the first baggie ($35?) I ever purchased

I figured if I'd I ever opened a business, I would frame it and hang it on the wall

Back then, marijuana possession was an infraction in California. You could get a ticket and the cops would take your weed.

hey rad back in 1972 i had a green house going to make a long story short the cops took my weed and we werent arrested but we did get booked and then we had to attend classes they called drug diversion that was once a week for 3 mos. and then supposedly the slat was wiped clean,nowdays your in real trouble!

 

[Pennywise]

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I had 1/2 oz of redbud taken from me by a cop one day and turned loose. Went to a party that night and theres the same cop with my bag of colombian. I told him the least he could do is smoke a joint with me. He rolled a joint and handed it to me laughing his ass off! That was in 1978.

 

[ilikemsticky]

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I had 1/2 oz of redbud taken from me by a cop one day and turned loose. Went to a party that night and theres the same cop with my bag of colombian. I told him the least he could do is smoke a joint with me. He rolled a joint and handed it to me laughing his ass off! That was in 1978.

that prick!

 

[Pennywise]

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He eventually got fired from the department for drinking on the job

 

[Morglie]

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Honesty shows up as optional fairly soon.

I looked up Matanuska - they said their tested sample was clonally identical to tested samples labelled Hawaiian, Mowie Wowie, and Northshore Maui .

Mostly Skunk but also heavy Berry - - Did they evn have Berry strains when they sold the first Mowie Wowie ?

If I remember correctly, there's supposed to be Maui waui in the original Skunk so that similarity makes sense.

When did honesty go down the drain?

Something I found on another forum. This is one of Ace's main breeders. I wish all breeders felt this way about cannabis.

Hi

We have modified a bit the design of our website so all the cannabinoid and terpene analysis we currently have available from the different ACE Seeds landraces, inbred lines and hybrids are from now onwards posted in the frontpage of the description of each strain at our website (I will keep posting them here in this thread too). For example:

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I know this scientifical info can be 'boring' for some people, but i find it vital to have a better and wider view of the genetic background of our releases. The analytics also provide objective and irrefutable facts about the genetics being discussed.

I think it should be a must for the breeders, seed companies, etc ... to really explain in detail the genetic background of their strains and to provide objective and scientific information about them. Cannabis community is only starting to understand the synergy between all the cannabinois and terpenes that this amazing plant can produce, so i think is important be make an effort to school each other in this sense and to get and share these kind of analytics.

 

[Big Sur]

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Just by browsing through all genuine Colombian and Thai samples you can see these two are closely related. Kerala and Mexican show up there in the mix too. African strains share the same genes too, which means that either all South American sativas are Asian imports or they made a short stop in Africa before they got there, but South Eastern Asia seems to be the point of origin for skinny leaf drug cultivars.

When Mexico (New Spain) was colonized by Spain, there was a direct trade route to the Philippines from Mexico and back again. Here is the map after the treaty in 1494 when the Pope split the world between Spain and Portugal, and the main trade routes after that in eth 16th century: https://www.wnd.com/files/2016/10/LoBaido-tordesillas-treaty.jpg

As Spanish logs show that hemp shipped to New Spain was called "Manila Hemp", it obviously came from the Philippines and not through Africa, which was controlled by the Portuguese. With the narrow overlap in Asia between the Philippines and SE Asia, it was previously thought that Manila Hem was sourced from SE Asia. But apparently not. One would have to assume that the hemp used early from about 1500 on was sourced from India and shipped by the Portuguese to Africa and to SE Asia and the Philippines, or someplace where it was later shipped to the Philippines and on to Mexico (and also Chile).

 

[Big Sur]

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The Colombian Gold connection is a little less obvious. Santa Marta was established in 1525, and hemp was grown around there from early on as it was critical in making sail cloth and rope for shipping. But it was never the main agricultural commodity there, which was sugar and tobacco. One would think that the slaves would have brought Cannabis to east Colombia, as they did later on to the Caribbean. As the genetic connection seems to be between Colombian Gold and Thai, there must have been some other trade connection that brought Cannabis to Santa Marta from Thailand.

Colombian folklore says that Colombian Gold was spread through Greater Colombia just before it won independence from Spain, by Simon Bolivar. He was also said to take Colombian Gold to the Amazon where he traded it for goods there. That was in the early 1800s. I believe it more likely that he took Colombian GOLD (as in metal coins) to trade with. There was a lot of gold in Colombia. Also, Colombian Gold was not cultivated much around Santa Marta until 1945 when it ramped up in earnest. So modern Colombian Gold weed may not have been sourced from Thailand until more recently. Though it may have been there earlier. Supposedly there are 26 different land race strains of Colombian weed from what I have read.

 

[Conradino23]

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morning conrad,are you going to do a smoke report on that girl,i remember the 10$ lid or some guy's called it a can we smoked tons of that stuff most of it was pretty much the same but one time our guy got some with a lot of red hairs and no seeds that was pretty good,and the thai sticks the best weed i ever did was some sticks i got back in the late 70s or early eighties it made several of my freinds throwup it was so potent probably some of those dipped in whatever but that shit was the kind!

I definitely will. If I said I was stoked I wouldn't do my expectations justice

I bought my first ounce of CG in Tampa for $30 in 1977...lmao

It must've been a milestone event

I drag this photo out about once a year, but since Conradino just harvested ... (+reps sir, excellent thread)

Rolled from the first baggie ($35?) I ever purchased

I figured if I'd I ever opened a business, I would frame it and hang it on the wall

Back then, marijuana possession was an infraction in California. You could get a ticket and the cops would take your weed.

It's nice that you kept this artifact.

hey rad back in 1972 i had a green house going to make a long story short the cops took my weed and we werent arrested but we did get booked and then we had to attend classes they called drug diversion that was once a week for 3 mos. and then supposedly the slat was wiped clean,nowdays your in real trouble!

It was very different in the 70s, wasn't it? But '72? It was a peak of Nixon era, so I'm surprised.

I had 1/2 oz of redbud taken from me by a cop one day and turned loose. Went to a party that night and theres the same cop with my bag of colombian. I told him the least he could do is smoke a joint with me. He rolled a joint and handed it to me laughing his ass off! That was in 1978.

I used to know a cop who was a dealer... and he was riding around town with his hippie friend stoned all the time, so I can believe it. Yeah cops are people too although it's hard to take it for granted Nice story

that prick!

Could've been worse!

He eventually got fired from the department for drinking on the job

If I remember correctly, there's supposed to be Maui waui in the original Skunk so that similarity makes sense.

When did honesty go down the drain?

Something I found on another forum. This is one of Ace's main breeders. I wish all breeders felt this way about cannabis.

Ace guys are different, they're actually trying to preserve landraces and develop new strains without recycling all over the same trio of OG, Skunk and Blueberry.

When Mexico (New Spain) was colonized by Spain, there was a direct trade route to the Philippines from Mexico and back again. Here is the map after the treaty in 1494 when the Pope split the world between Spain and Portugal, and the main trade routes after that in eth 16th century: https://www.wnd.com/files/2016/10/LoBaido-tordesillas-treaty.jpg

As Spanish logs show that hemp shipped to New Spain was called "Manila Hemp", it obviously came from the Philippines and not through Africa, which was controlled by the Portuguese. With the narrow overlap in Asia between the Philippines and SE Asia, it was previously thought that Manila Hem was sourced from SE Asia. But apparently not. One would have to assume that the hemp used early from about 1500 on was sourced from India and shipped by the Portuguese to Africa and to SE Asia and the Philippines, or someplace where it was later shipped to the Philippines and on to Mexico (and also Chile).

This is great info, man!

The Colombian Gold connection is a little less obvious. Santa Marta was established in 1525, and hemp was grown around there from early on as it was critical in making sail cloth and rope for shipping. But it was never the main agricultural commodity there, which was sugar and tobacco. One would think that the slaves would have brought Cannabis to east Colombia, as they did later on to the Caribbean. As the genetic connection seems to be between Colombian Gold and Thai, there must have been some other trade connection that brought Cannabis to Santa Marta from Thailand.

Colombian folklore says that Colombian Gold was spread through Greater Colombia just before it won independence from Spain, by Simon Bolivar. He was also said to take Colombian Gold to the Amazon where he traded it for goods there. That was in the early 1800s. I believe it more likely that he took Colombian GOLD (as in metal coins) to trade with. There was a lot of gold in Colombia. Also, Colombian Gold was not cultivated much around Santa Marta until 1945 when it ramped up in earnest. So modern Colombian Gold weed may not have been sourced from Thailand until more recently. Though it may have been there earlier. Supposedly there are 26 different land race strains of Colombian weed from what I have read.

Yeah I've been thinking. The line dividing hemp from marijuana or cannabis non-drug cultivars from drug cultivars is really an arbitrary one. Both in US and EU hemp is defined as cannabis that produces up to 0,3% THC. You bring down THC in Cannatonic or any other modern CBD strain to that level for the sake of bringing CBD up and technically you have hemp. We also know that Chinese already figured out that cannabis can be selectively inbred for different characteristics at least 5 thousand years ago. But in order to keep the traits you're after you have to constantly stay on the watch, so if you want your THC up the sky you have to select for these individuals in subsequent generations, F1, F2, F3, F4 and so on and vice versa with CBD, cause cannabis has natural tendency to balance both chemicals. They're so close in the DNA chain (and the only difference is one hydrogen bond), that there's no way to silent one permanently without genetic manipulation. There's actually a drift of certified hemp from F1 to F2 and onward towards more THC production and even commercially developed seed might produce plants that will get to 2% THC during hot summer. My theory is that even if Spaniards brought hemp to Colombia in 16th century there was no way they could've stabilised their line against THC drift and there you go after 100 years suddenly Colombian Gold pops out somewhere in the mountains and everybody starts getting higher and higher while the cultivar becomes stronger and stronger through selective inbreeding

 

[NorCaliwood]

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Just a drive by my friend... Never learnt to read so I'm alittle too brain-dead, and that requires thinking... I'll come back for the illustrations. Oh was it time for the CG to come down? And how long did she take.? Had them running buds, least what I call them. Well I'm outta here.
Keepem Green

 

[TheGreenYeti]

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I had 1/2 oz of redbud taken from me by a cop one day and turned loose. Went to a party that night and theres the same cop with my bag of colombian. I told him the least he could do is smoke a joint with me. He rolled a joint and handed it to me laughing his ass off! That was in 1978.

Me and my buddy got stopped while walking down the road one night. They stopped us due to another friend being hammered and jumping into the road while cars were going by. Anyways we were smoking a bowl while walking and they smelt us and so searched us. We each had a quarter of commercial smoke on us and the cop was checking it out under his spot light asking if it was any good. We said it was ok and he started giving us shit about having crappy weed at which point we both made sure to defend what we had. He offered us a ride into town since both of our cars were 3 towns over and we were in the middle of no where. When we got into the car he took both of our bags and put them in his center console. After he does that he looks back at both of us and says "looks like i wont have to buy any this week!" My buddy tried getting him to hang out at a later date and burn with him but the cop wasnt having it.

 

[ilikemsticky]

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good morning conrad,hope everything is good,first i just want to say how much i appreciate you taking me under your wing sort a speak thank you if there is ever anything i can do for you please ask that being said i will post a few pics of the progress i think there doing well the first pic is skunk then super hash,and two gorilla glue,then i wanted to show you what container i will use for my next grow it is a 12x12x12 cube cloth pot that fits rite into this milk crate i got at home depot it's vented well on all sides and bottom with handles all around i think it could work good!