Not sure about the selfed plants, normally a cross between a photo and an auto will be all photos in the first generation. Second generation between siblings will be.....
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Yep, I got 2 autos out of 8 seeds, and the rest were uniform at just under 9 weeks.
But I've seen Conradino talk about the way genetic variety changes from generation to generation. I wonder how a selfed F2 works out. That would reinforce the recessive traits, but I think the variety in F2s is pretty broad.
So if I ran, for instance 4 plants, are they likely to be very different or similar? Is it like a better F3? Or not.
I think you'd see more genetic variation but the selfed F2 would be auto if the parents are both autos. Each auto carries the recessive gene for the auto trait.
The F1s were both photos, so by the F2 level, there wasn't much auto left. Then one of the F2 photos dropped some pollen on itself and I ended up with a dozen seeds. It's a gorgeous purple thing that I have revegging, but I'm wondering about the seeds. The other F2s weren't usually very purple. So how many of the traits of the parent do these S1s have at this generation?
I had this happen once before with a stable strain, and I got a plant that was identical to the parent. These genetics are unstable though, so Ima wonder ...
I had this happen once before with a stable strain, and I got a plant that was identical to the parent. These genetics are unstable though, so Ima wonder ...
I would think the allele for purple color from both parents will dominate regardless of sex.
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Are you talking about your purple DC? The seeds should all make purple buds as the purpling is a recessive trait.
The variety in the F2 generation is narrowed down from the F1. Selfing it should narrow it down again. There will be recessive genes that are reinforced in some of the seeds however, so there will probably be a couple of surprises in those seeds.
Edit: keep in mind you'll also be reinforcing the nanner issue.
The variety in the F2 generation is narrowed down from the F1. Selfing it should narrow it down again. There will be recessive genes that are reinforced in some of the seeds however, so there will probably be a couple of surprises in those seeds.
Edit: keep in mind you'll also be reinforcing the nanner issue.
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Hey guys, I've been in the mountains for a while, where I got sick a bit, so I haven't replied to any questions here. I'll check them again to see if I can help with something 
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Sorry to hear you got sick Conradino 
that’s not much fun at all. Hope it’s leaving you quickly now. 
that’s not much fun at all. Hope it’s leaving you quickly now.
Sucks to get away from the house,, only not being able to enjoy it... Hope it passes fast......
Hope you're feeling better Conrad!
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sorry bud just take it easy!
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Bummer. Hope you get well soon!
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50/50 split probably.
Most likely.
Yep, I got 2 autos out of 8 seeds, and the rest were uniform at just under 9 weeks.
But I've seen Conradino talk about the way genetic variety changes from generation to generation. I wonder how a selfed F2 works out. That would reinforce the recessive traits, but I think the variety in F2s is pretty broad.
Selfed F2 is not really like F3. Technically it's F2S1, so most of genetic material is dominant. Recessive genes can pop up though if any of these plants were carrying it. The only way to check it is to grow a big population and see for yourself. If they're unwanted in breeding, then you take dominant genotype of your S1 cross and self-pollinate further to make S2, which should have very few recessive traits.
In this case it's a mixed bag, cause parent wasn't stabilised.
The F1s were both photos, so by the F2 level, there wasn't much auto left. Then one of the F2 photos dropped some pollen on itself and I ended up with a dozen seeds. It's a gorgeous purple thing that I have revegging, but I'm wondering about the seeds. The other F2s weren't usually very purple. So how many of the traits of the parent do these S1s have at this generation?
I had this happen once before with a stable strain, and I got a plant that was identical to the parent. These genetics are unstable though, so Ima wonder ...
Then you definitely see a recessive trait.
But after F2 it's really hard to say.
Actually F2 widens the scope of the strain through inbreeding. Usually F1s have fewer genotypes as it's an outcross, so you'll see mainly dominant characteristics of your parents (like in humans). But once you get to F2, everything that's carried in your genetic material comes to play, which means you're gonna have dominant as well as recessive genotypes from both sides and a lot of stuff that sits in-between.
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