Colombian Andes Greenhouse SIP CBD Auto Grow

[CBDMed]

Little miss CalMag continues to do better. Thanks, @cbdhemp808 ! Good diagnosis!

Also, thanks for the trimming lessons. This is Afghan Mass XXL with her bangs mostly cut:

I am sure I can do better on future grows, now that I have the idea.
Only, I ended up cutting a lot of the plant out!
Now I can see that if I had trimmed from the start, she probably would have had a lot more energy to put into the main branches!
Haha, I never had this problem before with autos!
Thank you, @Azimuth , for turning me on to SIPs!


So now I have two empty buckets...
Praying about what to plant...

 

[CBDMed]

Como te decía, por pura curiosidad; no se mucho sobre los sefardíes, y me interesan (a mi me interesa mucho la geografia humana y la historia y cultura universal).
Pude visitar en Toledo la sinagoga más antigua de Europa (costruida en el siglo 1180);

Santa María la Blanca, la sinagoga más antigua de Europa

Durante dos siglos, los judíos de Toledo asistieron a los servicios religiosos en esta Sinagoga también conocida como la Sinagoga Ben Shoshan.

www.enlacejudio.com

;me encantó su belleza, y despertó mi interes por "los primos" sefarditas.

Aparte, tanto a tí como a tus compatriotas, te recuerdo (porque supongo lo sabrías; si no, tengo el placer de anunciarte) que los sefarditas de cualquier lugar del planeta (y sus descendientes) tienen derecho a recibir la nacionalidad española (y por tanto, la ciudadanía de la Unión Europea): coméntaselo a tus compatriotas sefarditas, por que creo que el último plazo para solicitarlo ya expiró, y ahora hay un nuevo plazo extraordinario de gracia.
Creo que en América, los sefardíes están en mayor número por México, Colombia y Trinidad-Tobago...

No entiendo bien tu párrafo que te he remarcado en negrita: si te refieres al significado de "sefardí', no significa otra cosa que "español", así como "Sefarad"
(סְפָרַד)
significa "España".
El término "marrano" es un término medieval muy ofensivo que los cristianos españoles usaban con los judeoconversos (nuevos cristianos convertidos desde el judaismo).

Saludos con los mejores deseos de tu primo desde lo más profundo de Sefarad aka al-Ándalus aka España... aka Gachupinolandia, je.


As I was saying, out of pure curiosity; I don't know much about the Sephardim, and they interest me (I am very interested in human geography and universal history and culture). I was able to visit the oldest synagogue in Europe in Toledo (built in the 1180th century); Santa María la Blanca, la sinagoga más antigua de Europa
I loved its beauty, and it awakened my interest in Sephardic "cousins".

Besides, both to you and to your compatriots, I remind you (because I suppose you would know; if not, I have the pleasure of announcing) that Sephardim anywhere on the planet (and their descendants) have the right to receive Spanish nationality (and therefore therefore, the citizenship of the European Union): tell your Sephardic compatriots about it, because I think that the last term to request it has already expired, and now there is a new extraordinary period of grace.
I think that in America, the Sephardim are in greater numbers in Mexico, Colombia and Trinidad & Tobago...

I do not quite understand your paragraph that I have highlighted in bold (in the Spanish part; the English part seems to say something different) : if you refer to the meaning of "Sephardic", it does not mean anything other than "Spanish", as well as "Sepharad"
(סְפָרַד)
means "Spain". The term "marrano" is a very offensive medieval term that Spanish Christians used with/against Spanish judeoconversos (new Christian converts from Judaism).

Greetings with the best wishes from your cousin from the depths of Sepharad aka al-Ándalus aka Spain... aka Gachupinolandia, heh.

Hola @Cide Hamete Benengeli ,
Bueno, este es mi tema favorito, así que me complace responder a tu pregunta, pero se necesita un libro pequeño o una serie de videos cortos para hacer un buen trabajo. Además, mi tiempo es muy limitado, y estoy en la fecha límite en este momento.
¿Puedo enviarte por favor un mensaje privado y enviarte las notas que iba a publicar aquí (pero se hizo demasiado larga)?

Well, this is my favorite topic, so I am glad to try to answer your question, but it takes a small book or short video series to do a good job. Plus my time is super limited, and I am on deadline right now.
May I please send you a PM, and send you the notes I was going to post here (but it got too long)?

 

[Azimuth]

Thank you, @Azimuth , for turning me on to SIPs!

Happy that they're working for you. They've been around for decades and for the life of me I can't understand why they are not more popular so I'm just trying to spread the the love.

 

[CBDMed]

Happy that they're working for you. They've been around for decades and for the life of me I can't understand why they are not more popular so I'm just trying to spread the the love.

Yeah, even with messed-up soil, the plants are at least twice as big!
I can't wait to see what happens when I get things figured out!

(About people... maybe it is because I am autistic, but I have never understood why most people do the things they do...)

 

[Azimuth]

Yeah, even with messed-up soil, the plants are at least twice as big!
I can't wait to see what happens when I get things figured out!

That sounds like a good advertisement for SIP Club! Be sure and log your thoughts there as well. The more positive comments like this that we see over there the more likely someone that's on the fence might be to give them a try.

 

[CBDMed]

That sounds like a good advertisement for SIP Club! Be sure and log your thoughts there as well.

For you

 

[CBDMed]

I dunno. I have a meeting with a professor of agronomy and a natural medical doctor in two weeks, and we are gonna trade marbles and share information.
They encouraged me to find the local landrace strains and grow those. I like the theory, but I looked up Punto Rojo (Tierra Dentro), and it has anywhere between 2-7% THC.
I like the idea of landraces. It would be great just to turn it loose on the property like a real wild weed--but only 2 to 7% THC???? (And no CBD??)


What I need is mold-resistant tropical CBD weed in regulars.
Is the best and easiest thing (i.e., the least time) just to keep searching for that?
Thanks.

 

[cbdhemp808]

What I need is mold-resistant tropical CBD weed in regulars.

and why regulars?

 

[CBDMed]

and why regulars?

Great question.
Some people feel led to do eco-sustainable-farm research, and the ideal would be to breed one's own.
Other people feel that there is a spiritual component to everything, and they want their medicine as close to natural as possible.
Other people feel the landrace thing is a thing (and I am listening to that argument, although I am not convinced yet).

I ordered some DeliMed CBD Plus, and also some of your CBD seeds from "a breeder-non-grata that shall not be named" (although I buy from sponsors), with the goal of introducing CBD into the native strains, so that they can grow wild (like the weeds that they are).

I guess I could get into silver colloidal spray and all that, but then there is no disconnection from the grid.
I don't think we want to be completely disconnected from the grid (for one thing, because of the internet), but It is a goal to be able to disconnect, should we so choose.
And nothing is 100% eco-sustainable, but it is a goal to be able to tend and keep the garden the way it was meant to be kept (B'reisheet / Genesis 2:15).
They are encouraging me to get Punto Rojo (Tierra Dentro). That could be a veary good start point, as it is native to this area. So it would adapt perfectly to the climate.
I suppose I will need to learn how to breed with seeds, unless there is already someone here who knows how to do it (but probably not, because this is a cooler climate, and the breeders are all in warmer climates).

 

[cbdhemp808]

Great question.
Some people feel led to do eco-sustainable-farm research, and the ideal would be to breed one's own.
Other people feel that there is a spiritual component to everything, and they want their medicine as close to natural as possible.
Other people feel the landrace thing is a thing (and I am listening to that argument, although I am not convinced yet).

I ordered some DeliMed CBD Plus,

I can almost guarantee you that "up to 20% CBD" will mean that some phenos might reach 20%. I'd would add also... if you are lucky.

If you look at the language on the DeliMed web page, it's pretty much wreaking of hype, including the false statement, "THC-FREE cannabis". That's not a great sign.

and also some of your CBD seeds from "a breeder-non-grata that shall not be named" (although I buy from sponsors),

Yeah, the Doctor Seedsman 30:1, also sold by Coffee Shop. I was attracted by the lab test results which show CBD at or over 20%. 30:1 is false advertising, though, because if THC was 1%, CBD would be 30% – impossible and just wrongly stated. It's marketing hype, too.

with the goal of introducing CBD into the native strains, so that they can grow wild (like the weeds that they are).

Both the DeliMed and Seedsman CBD are feminized. Yeah, you could reverse the females to get pollen, and then cross breed with native strains. But "grow wild" would be a bad idea, because then random pollen is getting loose in the environment... cannabis pollen can travel for miles on the wind. And then growers' buds will get pollinated with random pollen, which nobody wants.

I guess I could get into silver colloidal spray and all that, but then there is no disconnection from the grid.
I don't think we want to be completely disconnected from the grid (for one thing, because of the internet), but It is a goal to be able to disconnect, should we so choose.
And nothing is 100% eco-sustainable, but it is a goal to be able to tend and keep the garden the way it was meant to be kept (B'reisheet / Genesis 2:15).

Sure, you can create seed by crossing, but it's difficult to create a new stable seed line. If you reverse using gibberellic acid or colloidal silver, you can then pollinate the same females, to produce some seed. But I have no experience with this... I haven't done any breeding yet. One caveat: I think the seed produced would also be feminized. Or, you could pollinate with pollen from a native strain male.

You can get fairly close to completely natural via cloning. Contrary to what some people say, there is no degradation in the genetics from continued cloning of clones, except for the occasional possible introduction of a virus, in which case the individual plant can be thrown out.

They are encouraging me to get Punto Rojo (Tierra Dentro). That could be a veary good start point, as it is native to this area. So it would adapt perfectly to the climate.
I suppose I will need to learn how to breed with seeds, unless there is already someone here who knows how to do it (but probably not, because this is a cooler climate, and the breeders are all in warmer climates).

... I looked up Punto Rojo (Tierra Dentro), and it has anywhere between 2-7% THC.
I like the idea of landraces. It would be great just to turn it loose on the property like a real wild weed--but only 2 to 7% THC???? (And no CBD??)

I don't think there's much sense in all that, especially with a strain that is only 2-7% THC.

There are a great many tropical-adapted THC strains available. Ace Seeds carries seed for many landrace or landrace-derived strains. Here's a good one, 100% sativa, 18-23% THC, regular seed.

Keep in mind that you can always create one-time crosses, grow the seed out, and then choose the best phenotypes and start working with them by cloning them. Once you find the best of the best, then you could use pollen from a male plant for breeding, to produce a stable seed line. Again, I have no experience with this.

What I need is mold-resistant tropical CBD weed in regulars.
Is the best and easiest thing (i.e., the least time) just to keep searching for that?

I think the best approach would be to grow a high-CBD strain, for example the Seedsman one, grow it out, and then look for the best phenotypes – the ones with high CBD, and the ones that do well in your area and for your grow type. Then you can work with those by cloning, and eventually you could do some breeding to produce seeds.

 

[Cide Hamete Benengeli]

I ordered some DeliMed CBD Plus, and also some of your CBD seeds from "a breeder-non-grata that shall not be named" (although I buy from sponsors), with the goal of introducing CBD into the native strains, so that they can grow wild (like the weeds that they are).

 

[CBDMed]

I can almost guarantee you that "up to 20% CBD" will mean that some phenos might reach 20%. I'd would add also... if you are lucky.

Oy!! :[

If you look at the language on the DeliMed web page, it's pretty much wreaking of hype, including the false statement, "THC-FREE cannabis". That's not a great sign.

Oy vey! Thank you for that information! That is very helpful!

Yeah, the Doctor Seedsman 30:1, also sold by Coffee Shop. I was attracted by the lab test results which show CBD at or over 20%. 30:1 is false advertising, though, because if THC was 1%, CBD would be 30% – impossible and just wrongly stated. It's marketing hype, too.

You got it! That's the other one! I will switch to that one for future purchases. And in the meantime I have some trading stock with the DeliMed, maybe? (Or maybe someone here wants to try breeding a sativa CBD? Hopefully we can talk about this at the 12 January meeting.)

Both the DeliMed and Seedsman CBD are feminized.

Ken (yes).

Yeah, you could reverse the females to get pollen, and then cross breed with native strains. But "grow wild" would be a bad idea, because then random pollen is getting loose in the environment... cannabis pollen can travel for miles on the wind. And then growers' buds will get pollinated with random pollen, which nobody wants.

Oyy!! Uff! No, I don't want that!! Thank you for telling me!
I just realized I have some blueberry CBD haze strains from TopTao, so those are probably mildew resistant. They are also regulars, so I should just start with that once I can fix and then recook my soil.

Sure, you can create seed by crossing, but it's difficult to create a new stable seed line.

Ahhh.... thank you!

If you reverse using gibberellic acid or colloidal silver, you can then pollinate the same females, to produce some seed.

Nope! I don't want to get into it! Thanks! (But no thanks! Lol!)

But I have no experience with this... I haven't done any breeding yet. One caveat: I think the seed produced would also be feminized. Or, you could pollinate with pollen from a native strain male.

Yeah, I just don't want to go there, for religious and spiritual reasons. I want to transition to male and female seeds, as I can. Plus they work with regulars here in the campo (countryside).

You can get fairly close to completely natural via cloning. Contrary to what some people say, there is no degradation in the genetics from continued cloning of clones, except for the occasional possible introduction of a virus, in which case the individual plant can be thrown out.

Ya know, I have thought about it. And I have some Papa Zeep's Organic cloning concentrate in the fridge. But I am hoping to do seeds, male and female, and He created them. If'n you know what I mean.

I don't think there's much sense in all that, especially with a strain that is only 2-7% THC.

Thanks! That makes total sense!
I have a cross of mangobiche/corinto/punto rojo, but I have not planted it yet. I want to learn from them how they do it first, before I plant them (now that I have an awning).
I am just now realizing I am not sure why I want punto rojo silvestre (wild) when I already have a high-thc hybrid ????

There are a great many tropical-adapted THC strains available. Ace Seeds carries seed for many landrace or landrace-derived strains. Here's a good one, 100% sativa, 18-23% THC, regular seed.

Ahh, ok! I think for me the main thing is CBD with some THC that I can grow in the most natural way on this piece of property. I am aware that some Colombian sativas are adapted to cool weather, the ideal would be if I could get something that grows wild with CBD.
Sorry, amigo! I don't want to say anything shocking, but the locals don't mind mixing hybrids for your own cultivo. They accept that there are good things from each country, and they want to experience it all. But they don't have the money to go to it, so it has to come to them, if that makes any sense, hahaha!
They have horsetail and giant bamboo, and also golden bamboo all over. The only thing is that it is much more humid here. I can be inside under lights for as long as I am here (maybe a year?), but after that, we want to be as eco-sustainable as possible, for many reasons. So I probably won't use LEDs for anything more than night interruption lighting, plus assorted household tasks. But we want to do as much as possible with natural lighting, especially skylights. (I'm planning something that's kind of halfway between BauHaus and Greenhouse, haha!)
Anyway, I have a few mold resistant strains. I will grow what I got inside for the year while I am here, and then after that we can see what CBD regulars I already have. TopTao works a lot in CBD regulars in greenhouses. You can find their seeds in most of the sponsors' stock. He claims a minimum of 5% CBD, which in regulars would work fine for me long term. And he claims disease resistant genetics. I would be very interested to hear your take.

Keep in mind that you can always create one-time crosses, grow the seed out, and then choose the best phenotypes and start working with them by cloning them. Once you find the best of the best, then you could use pollen from a male plant for breeding, to produce a stable seed line. Again, I have no experience with this.

Yeah, I am just thinking that the people here love working with plants. Maybe our gardener either knows about it, or would be interested to learn. He seems very competent in both building and plants. He would use local "stick it in the ground and let it grow in this black volcanic soil, and only give it what it needs" methods that should work great. Or maybe we can find someone local who breeds, who would be interested in the project? I am sure that we will talk about this kind of thing in the January 12 session. Because they will know who is gifted with plants around here.

I think the best approach would be to grow a high-CBD strain, for example the Seedsman one, grow it out, and then look for the best phenotypes – the ones with high CBD, and the ones that do well in your area and for your grow type. Then you can work with those by cloning, and eventually you could do some breeding to produce seeds.

Yeah, maybe there is someone around here who would appreciate the opportunity to breed CBD seeds? Not sure really. I have to ask at the January 12 meeting, because I am completely out of time. I still need to water before Shabbat. Thanks.

 

[CBDMed]

Hola @Cide Hamete Benengeli !
Disculpe, ¿posiblemente dije algo mal, por manera de broma?
Perdon.
Lo que quiero decir es que quiero una CBD que puedo crecer aqui en la alta Amazonia con tecnología lo más sostenible que podemos! Y aunque yo necesito esta medicina, y amo mucho el pensamiento de cruzar, yo mismo no tengo tiempo suficiente aprender cruzando una línea estable. Pero, hay gente aquí en este valle a la que sí le encantaría este tipo de trabajo, pero tiene que adaptarse a las técnicas nativas locales.
¡No puedo pedirles que aprendan a hacer SIPs! Cubos no es el objetivo. Crecer como lo han hecho los indígenas durante miles de años aquí es la meta, pero para eso necesito adaptar las semillas CBD, o no puedo sostenerlo en nuestro modelo eco-sostenible.
Espero estar explicando bien. Disculpe por cualquera falla en comunicación, y cualquier desentendimiento. Gracias.


Hi @Cide Hamete Benengeli!
Excuse me, did my joke come out wrong? (Bad joke?)
Sorry!!
What I want to say is that I want a CBD that I can grow here in the upper Amazon with the most sustainable technology we can! And although I need this medicine, and I love the thought breeding very much, I myself do not have time to learn by crossing a stable line. But, there are people here in this valley who would love this type of work, but they have to adapt to the local native techniques.
I can't ask them to learn how to do SIPs! And indoors in pots is not the goal. Growing as indigenous people have done for thousands of years here is the goal, but for that I need to adapt CBD seeds, or I can't sustain it in our eco-sustainable model.
I hope I am explaining well. Sorry for any miscommunication, and any misunderstanding. Thank you.

 

[CBDMed]

I haven't experimented with SIP yet, but I like the idea of it being primarily a "runoff recycler", meaning: 1) using a really well-fertilized custom, organic, living soil mix, -and- 2) watering from the top – no tube needed. This way the deep roots are able to get nutrient-rich runoff, without the additional need to fill the reservoir with a pH-balanced nutrient supply.

Yeah. Sounds good.
But so then, you're not really worried about messing up the moisture gradient?

So, are you counting the benefits of top-fertigation (i.e., molasses, Re-charge, KNF, etc.) at least as great as the benefits of maintaining a strict moisture gradient?

(And just to be technical, if you don't have a fill-tube, isn't what you are designing really a self-watering planter with a big res?)

 

[cbdhemp808]

Yeah. Sounds good.
But so then, you're not really worried about messing up the moisture gradient?

there will be no wick.

So, are you counting the benefits of top-fertigation (i.e., molasses, Re-charge, KNF, etc.) at least as great as the benefits of maintaining a strict moisture gradient?

no gradient. just water from the top with high-N liquid fert during veg, and addition of solution grade K and Mg during flower. I don't use any of the ferts you mentioned. I stay away from molasses due to heavy metals, which can wind up in the flower resin.

(And just to be technical, if you don't have a fill-tube, isn't what you are designing really a self-watering planter with a big res?)

It will just be a bucket-in-bucket 5 gal design, perhaps elevate the inner bucket a bit for a bigger res. Roots will be able to easily reach into the res. No wick.

I'm not going to divulge the rest of my design yet, but I've got a cool idea that could boost yield by 20% even above what normal SIPs are getting. Well, we'll see!

happy new year growmies!

 

[CBDMed]

there will be no wick.

Ok

no gradient. just water from the top with high-N liquid fert during veg, and addition of solution grade K and Mg during flower.

Great!

I don't use any of the ferts you mentioned. I stay away from molasses due to heavy metals, which can wind up in the flower resin.

Ahh, ok!

It will just be a bucket-in-bucket 5 gal design, perhaps elevate the inner bucket a bit for a bigger res. Roots will be able to easily reach into the res. No wick.

That will be interesting to see. I am considering nested 40g trash cans for sativas. It is still only in the "idea" stage, and I don't have any plans yet, but I think I will want something much bigger than a 5G for a long-time sativa.

I'm not going to divulge the rest of my design yet, but I've got a cool idea that could boost yield by 20% even above what normal SIPs are getting. Well, we'll see!

It will be great to see your design. 20% would be a lot!
Best of success with that!

happy new year growmie

Hahaha, shavua tov!

 

[CBDMed]

and why regulars?

Hahaha, and why are YOU running regulars?

 

[cbdhemp808]

Hahaha, and why are YOU running regulars?

Ha ha... I haven't answered your other reply yet, but I will.

Well, the Green Mountain Grape only came in regular seed. Now I'm waiting for them to show their sex... no signs yet, but perhaps they are getting close. I need to do some more up potting... heading out to make some recycled soil shortly.

 

[CBDMed]

Ok, the Delicious Cheese (Delicious Candy) looks a little more yellow, but I think maybe she feels better to the touch.
She is not drinking a lot.
I top-water her with extra CalMag (like triple), and still she shows yellow.
Is CalMag fast acting, to reverse the yellow? Or once it is yellow, it maybe stays yellow?

I wonder if she got too much egg shells mixed in with her pot, or maybe if it is a thing with Delicious Cheese, because the next-most-yellowish girl is also a Delicious Cheese.

A few other plants show some relatively very slight tip yellowing, so I wondered if it might be more pronounced with Delicious Cheese, or maybe something else.
Does anyone know?

 

[CBDMed]

Ok, my friends the natural medical doctor and the professor of agronomy will meet with me in 9 days.
I was wondering 'zactly when is the best time to harvest the Auto Blue Ace, so it will be juust barely dry enough to smoke with rolling papers and some tobacco and mullein.
The leaves turned color the last two days. Does that mean anything? (Is it autumn? Haha!)

I don't see any amber or anything.
Not too bad for the frost, but nothing to write the 420 Forum about (ha!).

I was told that for CBD you want to harvest a lil' early, as CBD degrades faster than THC. But I don't really know. Usually I just wait until it seems right (whatever that means).

I was also told to keep the plants in the dark for 3 days, to speed trichrome production (or else to lower light to 10 hours a day, symbolizing autumn--but does that really work for an auto??)

I was also told to cut the plants when it is dark, meaning they are asleep, so that the juices are still in the root, not the plant. I have no idea if that is true, or if it is an old stoner's tale, haha.

I did not put anything on the top (no sprays, no foliar waterings), so I might try CBD's advice not to bother with a bud wash.

Any advice?
Thanks.