Colombian Andes Greenhouse SIP CBD Auto Grow

[Azimuth]

Will painted pvc work too?

I wouldn't use painted since he's talking about jamming it in the soil to hopefully pull out a plug of soil. Wouldn't want paint chips I the grow mix.

 

[InTheShed]

I was referring to this:

And soldered copper!

Could be painted pvc

 

[Azimuth]

Do you insert PVC in the soil as you pack the SIP? And then pull out the PVC, and backfill with powdered or granulated goodies? (Or what is the best way to make vertical spikes?)

I would think that would be a tuff way to get a clean plug to pull out.

I misread that.

Yes you could do it that way if the soil were packed enough when you uppot since that's when you'd be adding spikes.

 

[CBDMed]

Hmm, sorry Azi! I guess that was not super clear on my part.
I was thinking to put the packed bottom soil in the SIP,
Then put four 3/4" PVC pipes on top of that packed bottom soil (around the edges),
then fill the SIP with soil (adding layers as appropriate),
And then when the SIP is filled with soil, and is damp, fill the PVC tubes with goodies, and slowly pull the PVC pipes out of the damp soil, leaving a long spike.
But I am thinking bloom and flowering goodies would be more apropos than veg goodies in a spike. Does that seem correct? (Or not necessarily?)
Thanks.

 

[Azimuth]

It's all in the book, but I think The Rev puts both in different spikes at flip.

But now you're talking recipes and you really need to follow them rather than half ass it.

 

[CBDMed]

Well, I am on deadline, and this will probably be yet another all-nighter (I'm 60).
After that we have a long day in the city tomorrow on important business that can't be delayed.
The reality is I am not sure when I will have time to digest a book.
I was thinking about maybe 1/2" PVC, and fill it up with granulated bud & bloom mix, so as to get a commercially-balanced mix.

If that isn't good, then I guess it means no spikes for me...

 

[CBDMed]

It's all in the book, but I think The Rev puts both in different spikes at flip.

But now you're talking recipes and you really need to follow them rather than half ass it.

Hey Azi,
It is 2:35am, and I am now uploading my deliverable. So it looks like 3-4 hours of sleep! (Yah!! Aleluyah!)
I appreciate you and the help you have given me a lot. I hate to disappoint you in anything! Just please know that it is not "half hearted" anything! I'm just running as hard as I can (winded!).
I don't know if you can relate to this or not, but I lost everything maybe 11 years ago (complete with monumental debt). I have worked like a dog to dig myself out, and I've got one chance at getting set back up again--and astonishingly, it seems to be working out, so we *might make it, Father willing!
I would truly love to have time to read The Rev, and KNF, and Jadam, and many other books! And I hope some day I will get time (which is why I bought the books...). But please don't think of it as "half hearted" or something like that! Because the reality is that I am burning the candle at both ends, running my tail off, and I am still trying to dip my toes in as much as I can.
I can understand my technique is way off. I can understand a lot more reading would help (a lot). But my time just flies away...
I'm gonna try to get a few hours, as I have to drive, and it looks to be a long day. Thank you a zillion for all of your help. I appreciate it a lot, and I appreciate you. And I hope your experiments also work out.
Wishing you the Best,
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...............

 

[Azimuth]

I didn't mean it like that. Poor choice of words on my part, and I apologize.

I just meant that in The Rev's book he's got an entire chapter and more on the spikes, how to build them, how to use them, etc. He give specific recipes for both veg and flower and incorporates them with his layers as he builds his pots. It's an entire well integrated method.

It's been a while since I read the book and his is not the way I grow so I didn't want to give you something to try without you having a good background in his methods. I don't know if you can just mix and match and substitute some things while leaving others out like you sometimes need to do because of availability of inputs.

I am well enough versed in the knf and Jadam school to be comfortable making suggestions to those that haven't read the book, but I'm not with TLO.

So, what I meant was, I don't know if not following his complete methods might give you issues, and therefore reading the book to be well versed in the complete method would better allow you to duplicate his success without having some strange result by leaving something out.

Good luck with your trip.

 

[CBDMed]

I didn't mean it like that. Poor choice of words on my part, and I apologize.

I just meant that in The Rev's book he's got an entire chapter and more on the spikes, how to build them, how to use them, etc. He give specific recipes for both veg and flower and incorporates them with his layers as he builds his pots. It's an entire well integrated method.

It's been a while since I read the book and his is not the way I grow so I didn't want to give you something to try without you having a good background in his methods. I don't know if you can just mix and match and substitute some things while leaving others out like you sometimes need to do because of availability of inputs.

I am well enough versed in the knf and Jadam school to be comfortable making suggestions to those that haven't read the book, but I'm not with TLO.

So, what I meant was, I don't know if not following his complete methods might give you issues, and therefore reading the book to be well versed in the complete method would better allow you to duplicate his success without having some strange result by leaving something out.

Good luck with your trip.

Thanks Azi! (Forgiven! "Fuhgeddaboudit!!")
I know you mean well, that's why you are trying to help me!
May the Eternal please repay you for your kindnesses and help.
Got to run. Talk later. I hope you have a wonderful day.

 

[CBDMed]

Hola a todos, haha!
I am home late. It was a long day but a good day!
I met with an agricultural engineer who got into cannabis maybe 14 years ago, and also his natural medical doctor friend. We had a talk session over some Colombian home-bred Sativa. (Not too much CBD, but I'm in! Haha!)


He knows how to grow Colombian sativas in ground here. When we have the greenhouse in place on the property, he will come out and show us how to condition the soil, etc.
He said they plant straight in the ground here, and it is so rich that it doesn't need anything (but I am sure I will amend it!).
Seeds from outside the country are a big deal to them here, so I am going to gift them all of my Spanish THC fems, and a Peruvian coca plant each (and you can make starts easy).
Then when we have the NEXT greenhouse in place on the property, he willn come show us how they prep the soil here, etc.

For planting times, he was saying that you should plant maybe 3-4 months ahead of the dry season (basically June-Aug), so that the budding takes place during the dry season (to reduce mold, etc.).
I think he was saying that unless you do darkness-interruption lighting of some kind, the plants will start to flower out about 3-4 months later.
Is that what is called an "early harvest" variety? Or Tropical Sativa? Or how to they classify that?

He also seemed to think that Sativas should not be put in a greenhouse here. He showed me a picture of his sativa and it is a small tree out in the open. The quality was not indoor-LED stellar, but it was good.

@cbdhemp808 ,he was also saying that the humidity is enough here that if you run an enclosed greenhouse Iwith walls). you also have to watch the humidity, so you do not get mold.
I bought a pair of fans today for the upstairs greenhouse, but it gave me pause.
It is not super humid here, but there is some humidity, yes.
I guess I will have to learn to start monitoring the rH?? (I have always been in a dry climate, so I never paid attention to it before.)
One concern was, if I start 1:1 indica-hybrid photos downstairs and then flower them out in a closed greenhouse on the rooftop, will two fans be enough for (1:1) Indica hybrids, to prevent mold?
What is a safe humidity range?

He did a Colombian sativa cross with blueberry. He gifted me two buds.
He talked about how the Sativa buds are looser, so they don't mold so much.
I think he also grows his in the open air, which (with rain) I would think it would really be important to have mold resistance.
For an open air in-ground sinsemilla grow, it wasn't bad!
(It wasn't super-frosted or anything, but it wasn't bad! And Sativas are always welcome.
That's pretty good if he can grow this in the open air, without any other considerations, just putting it in the soil and leaving it.

But I need to figure out if my closed-greenhouse idea will work with my 1:1 indica hybrids, otherwise I will need to continue to grow them indoors (which causes a problem because I use the VEG room on 24-0, for warmth.

The TDS pen is supposed to be in country.
I did not see the NPK kits this week, hopefully next week.

I could not meet with the other cannabis gardener to ask about coco-pine. Maybe the next time?
Got to get to bed. I have workmen coming in the morning. Need to get some shut eye.

If anyone knows about how Colombian sativas flower after 3-4 months, and the whole "tropical flip" thing, it would be great to know.
Also, if anyone has any recommendations on mold-resistant 1:1 sativas, that would be greatly welcome.

In the meantime, the girls are doing good. They seem to be drinking good. It is starting to scare me how tall they are getting. (Nothing compared to photos, and nothing compared to the next grow after we adjust and then re-cook the soil, but for me at least it is a happy sign of good medicine grows to come.
Thanks so much, everyone! And thank you 420! Got to get some sleep.

 

[Cide Hamete Benengeli]

Hola a todos, haha!
I am home late. It was a long day but a good day!
I met with an agricultural engineer who got into cannabis maybe 14 years ago, and also his natural medical doctor friend. We had a talk session over some Colombian home-bred Sativa. (Not too much CBD, but I'm in! Haha!)


He knows how to grow Colombian sativas in ground here. When we have the greenhouse in place on the property, he will come out and show us how to condition the soil, etc.
He said they plant straight in the ground here, and it is so rich that it doesn't need anything (but I am sure I will amend it!).
Seeds from outside the country are a big deal to them here, so I am going to gift them all of my Spanish THC fems, and a Peruvian coca plant each (and you can make starts easy).
Then when we have the NEXT greenhouse in place on the property, he willn come show us how they prep the soil here, etc.

For planting times, he was saying that you should plant maybe 3-4 months ahead of the dry season (basically June-Aug), so that the budding takes place during the dry season (to reduce mold, etc.).
I think he was saying that unless you do darkness-interruption lighting of some kind, the plants will start to flower out about 3-4 months later.
Is that what is called an "early harvest" variety? Or Tropical Sativa? Or how to they classify that?

He also seemed to think that Sativas should not be put in a greenhouse here. He showed me a picture of his sativa and it is a small tree out in the open. The quality was not indoor-LED stellar, but it was good.

@cbdhemp808 ,he was also saying that the humidity is enough here that if you run an enclosed greenhouse Iwith walls). you also have to watch the humidity, so you do not get mold.
I bought a pair of fans today for the upstairs greenhouse, but it gave me pause.
It is not super humid here, but there is some humidity, yes.
I guess I will have to learn to start monitoring the rH?? (I have always been in a dry climate, so I never paid attention to it before.)
One concern was, if I start 1:1 indica-hybrid photos downstairs and then flower them out in a closed greenhouse on the rooftop, will two fans be enough for (1:1) Indica hybrids, to prevent mold?
What is a safe humidity range?

He did a Colombian sativa cross with blueberry. He gifted me two buds.
He talked about how the Sativa buds are looser, so they don't mold so much.
I think he also grows his in the open air, which (with rain) I would think it would really be important to have mold resistance.
For an open air in-ground sinsemilla grow, it wasn't bad!
(It wasn't super-frosted or anything, but it wasn't bad! And Sativas are always welcome.
That's pretty good if he can grow this in the open air, without any other considerations, just putting it in the soil and leaving it.

But I need to figure out if my closed-greenhouse idea will work with my 1:1 indica hybrids, otherwise I will need to continue to grow them indoors (which causes a problem because I use the VEG room on 24-0, for warmth.

The TDS pen is supposed to be in country.
I did not see the NPK kits this week, hopefully next week.

I could not meet with the other cannabis gardener to ask about coco-pine. Maybe the next time?
Got to get to bed. I have workmen coming in the morning. Need to get some shut eye.

If anyone knows about how Colombian sativas flower after 3-4 months, and the whole "tropical flip" thing, it would be great to know.
Also, if anyone has any recommendations on mold-resistant 1:1 sativas, that would be greatly welcome.

In the meantime, the girls are doing good. They seem to be drinking good. It is starting to scare me how tall they are getting. (Nothing compared to photos, and nothing compared to the next grow after we adjust and then re-cook the soil, but for me at least it is a happy sign of good medicine grows to come.
Thanks so much, everyone! And thank you 420! Got to get some sleep.

Quiubo, parce.
Tu compa colombiano te ha dicho casi lo mismo que yo antes... Si el cultiva justo en tu misma zona y clima, puede servirte de referencia. Y piensa que si las sativas puras paisanas allá pueden desarrollar moho en un invernadero, las índicas lo desarrollarán mucho antes y en mucha mayor medida. La ventilación es tu cuello de botella. De echo y en tus circunstancias, yo hubiera empezado con un simple techado que impida que le llueva a las plantas.
Si quieres poner índicas, informate de como lo están haciendo por el Cauca. Y creo que tambien está presente en tu hilo un hawaiano que tambien usa invernadero: otra buena referencía.
Arriba Colombia.

Hi again, Colombian friend.
Your Colombian compa has told you almost the same as I did before... If he grows in the same area and climate as you, he can serve as a reference. And think that if the pure country sativas there can develop mold in a greenhouse, the indicas will develop it much earlier and to a much greater extent. Ventilation is your bottleneck. In fact and in your circumstances, I would have started with a simple roof that prevents it from raining on the plants. If you want to put indicas, find out how they are doing it in Cauca. And I think that a Hawaiian who also uses a greenhouse is also present in your thread: another good reference.
Up Colombia.

 

[CBDMed]

Quiubo, parce.
Tu compa colombiano te ha dicho casi lo mismo que yo antes... Si el cultiva justo en tu misma zona y clima, puede servirte de referencia. Y piensa que si las sativas puras paisanas allá pueden desarrollar moho en un invernadero, las índicas lo desarrollarán mucho antes y en mucha mayor medida. La ventilación es tu cuello de botella. De echo y en tus circunstancias, yo hubiera empezado con un simple techado que impida que le llueva a las plantas.
Si quieres poner índicas, informate de como lo están haciendo por el Cauca. Y creo que tambien está presente en tu hilo un hawaiano que tambien usa invernadero: otra buena referencía.
Arriba Colombia.

Hola Cide,
Creo que tienes mucho sentido.
Preguntaré si las sativas crecen al aire libre en este clima más fresco.
Sí, espero saber de Hawaii @cbdhemp808 sobre sus experiencias con la humedad (aunque he estado en Hawaii, y creo que Hawaii tiene mucho más humedad que aquí en la alta sierra andina...).
Creo que ambos son criadores aficionados, así que me pregunto si pueden hacerme algunas cepas Sativa CBD andinas...

Hi again, Colombian friend.
Your Colombian compa has told you almost the same as I did before... If he grows in the same area and climate as you, he can serve as a reference. And think that if the pure country sativas there can develop mold in a greenhouse, the indicas will develop it much earlier and to a much greater extent. Ventilation is your bottleneck. In fact and in your circumstances, I would have started with a simple roof that prevents it from raining on the plants. If you want to put indicas, find out how they are doing it in Cauca. And I think that a Hawaiian who also uses a greenhouse is also present in your thread: another good reference.
Up Colombia.

Hi Cide,
I think you make a lot of sense.
I will inquire if the sativas grow in the open in this cooler climate.
Yes, I am hoping to hear from Hawaii @cbdhemp808 about his experiences with humidity (although I have been to Hawaii, and I think Hawaii has a lot more humidity than the high sierran Andes. But still, a closed greenhouse is a different thing...).
I think they are both amateur breeders, so if I give them some CBD seeds, I wonder if they can make me some Andean Sativa CBD strains?

 

[CaptainLucky]

Great!!
Ok, I put 1/2 because I had some that had more liquid than others, and it dissolved the sugar cap, so I had to add more brown sugar.
So I thought to say 1/2, so there is plenty of room to add more sugar, for the cap.


My constructor loves it. He and his son were very impressed! (And I hope they tell everyone in the valley...)
It is a very "Latin America" style of gift--it cost very little, but helps a lot!
Really what it is, is instructions for the wise on how to make organic fertilizer, because with the economy going the way it is going, they no longer have money to buy chemical ferts.
So really what it is, is life for those who are willing to listen.

That is very good to know!!!!
Thank you!!

I love this site learn something new everyday. CL

 

[CaptainLucky]

Quiubo, parce.
Tu compa colombiano te ha dicho casi lo mismo que yo antes... Si el cultiva justo en tu misma zona y clima, puede servirte de referencia. Y piensa que si las sativas puras paisanas allá pueden desarrollar moho en un invernadero, las índicas lo desarrollarán mucho antes y en mucha mayor medida. La ventilación es tu cuello de botella. De echo y en tus circunstancias, yo hubiera empezado con un simple techado que impida que le llueva a las plantas.
Si quieres poner índicas, informate de como lo están haciendo por el Cauca. Y creo que tambien está presente en tu hilo un hawaiano que tambien usa invernadero: otra buena referencía.
Arriba Colombia.

Hi again, Colombian friend.
Your Colombian compa has told you almost the same as I did before... If he grows in the same area and climate as you, he can serve as a reference. And think that if the pure country sativas there can develop mold in a greenhouse, the indicas will develop it much earlier and to a much greater extent. Ventilation is your bottleneck. In fact and in your circumstances, I would have started with a simple roof that prevents it from raining on the plants. If you want to put indicas, find out how they are doing it in Cauca. And I think that a Hawaiian who also uses a greenhouse is also present in your thread: another good reference.
Up Colombia.

If you think about it that makes a lot of sense. Colombian Punto Rojo + Gold prolly have been growing wild for many years. IMHO CL

 

[CBDMed]

If you think about it that makes a lot of sense. Colombian Punto Rojo + Gold prolly have been growing wild for many years. IMHO CL

Siiii....
Claro que sí....

 

[CBDMed]

I love this site learn something new everyday. CL

Yes, and something healthy and social, too!

 

[cbdhemp808]

I think he was saying that unless you do darkness-interruption lighting of some kind, the plants will start to flower out about 3-4 months later. Is that what is called an "early harvest" variety? Or Tropical Sativa? Or how to they classify that?

At your location in Colombia you are very close to the equator, so plants will flower year round as soon as they are mature enough. Your shortest night of the year is on the solstice, about 11.5 hours. Regarding 3-4 months, it all depends on what you are growing – 100% sativa, sativa-dominant, 50/50 hybrid, indica-dominant, or 100% indica. There's also variation within those categories. For example, I'm growing Green Mountain Grape now (little seedlings) which is a fast-flowering 90% sativa that's very mold resistant.

I highly recommend night interruption lighting, so you can control when the plants will flower.

He also seemed to think that Sativas should not be put in a greenhouse here. He showed me a picture of his sativa and it is a small tree out in the open. The quality was not indoor-LED stellar, but it was good.

I think you'd probably be fine with a mold-resistant sativa having it inside a greenhouse. You could check out my thread for ideas HERE.

@cbdhemp808 ,he was also saying that the humidity is enough here that if you run an enclosed greenhouse with walls). you also have to watch the humidity, so you do not get mold.

You should have the ability to vent the greenhouse during hot times of the year. That implies some big openings (screen or no screen) and fans. If you've got plenty of air flow, it should be fairly easy to stabilize the internal humidity to the external ambient humidity. I don't have any experience dealing with "cold" external temps, and maintaining the right temp and humidity internal.

One concern was, if I start 1:1 indica-hybrid photos downstairs and then flower them out in a closed greenhouse on the rooftop, will two fans be enough for (1:1) Indica hybrids, to prevent mold? What is a safe humidity range?

Are you talking about a 1:1 THC/CBD plant? In general, it may be better to shoot for getting your CBD from CBD plants, that way you have more choices for the THC plant(s), in terms of mold-resistance, THC percent, etc.

He did a Colombian sativa cross with blueberry. He gifted me two buds.
He talked about how the Sativa buds are looser, so they don't mold so much.
I think he also grows his in the open air, which (with rain) I would think it would really be important to have mold resistance.
For an open air in-ground sinsemilla grow, it wasn't bad!
(It wasn't super-frosted or anything, but it wasn't bad! And Sativas are always welcome.
That's pretty good if he can grow this in the open air, without any other considerations, just putting it in the soil and leaving it.

Yes, Blueberry is known to be mold-resistant (i.e. bud rot resistant). I'm trying out a couple 50/50 strains that contain BB genetics... they are still babies at this point: Blue Widow and HI-BISCUS. I also have a couple BB freebies.

Again, check out my thread for my observations regarding mold-resistance. HERE.

Regarding growing in the ground outdoors... then you really need to have some genetics that are adapted to your region, that are known to do well outdoors. They will be getting rained on, so you wouldn't have the control over that as you do in a greenhouse. Now, if you grew them in a greenhouse, one would expect them to also do very well, and perhaps even better because you can control the nutrients, and provide night interruption lighting.

But I need to figure out if my closed-greenhouse idea will work with my 1:1 indica hybrids, otherwise I will need to continue to grow them indoors (which causes a problem because I use the VEG room on 24-0, for warmth.
•••
If anyone knows about how Colombian sativas flower after 3-4 months, and the whole "tropical flip" thing, it would be great to know.
Also, if anyone has any recommendations on mold-resistant 1:1 sativas, that would be greatly welcome.

By 1:1 you mean THC/CBD?

 

[cbdhemp808]

Hi Cide,
I think you make a lot of sense.
I will inquire if the sativas grow in the open in this cooler climate.
Yes, I am hoping to hear from Hawaii @cbdhemp808 about his experiences with humidity (although I have been to Hawaii, and I think Hawaii has a lot more humidity than the high sierran Andes. But still, a closed greenhouse is a different thing...).
I think they are both amateur breeders, so if I give them some CBD seeds, I wonder if they can make me some Andean Sativa CBD strains?

Hawaii actually has very diverse climates, ranging from low-elevation tropical rain forest to high-elevation mountains. Some areas have very high rainfall, while other areas are desert-like. Where I am in the tropical zone, the ambient humidity hovers around 80% on a clear, sunny day, and goes up from there when it's rainy.

The two greenhouses that I'm currently using are essentially completely open on the walls – one has screen, the other doesn't. I have no need for heat inside the greenhouses.

I haven't done any breeding yet, but I'm looking forward to it. As I was saying before, growing separate CBD strains is probably the way to go, for several reasons. There are some strains that will produce up to 20% or more. Then just blend with whatever THC buds you have, indica or sativa, using a grinder and mixing.

 

[CBDMed]

At your location in Colombia you are very close to the equator, so plants will flower year round as soon as they are mature enough.

Ahh, ok! I think he said the same.

Your shortest night of the year is on the solstice, about 11.5 hours. Regarding 3-4 months, it all depends on what you are growing – 100% sativa, sativa-dominant, 50/50 hybrid, indica-dominant, or 100% indica.

Hmm... does indica take longer than sativa? Or sativa take longer than indica?

There's also variation within those categories. For example, I'm growing Green Mountain Grape now (little seedlings) which is a fast-flowering 90% sativa that's very mold resistant.

Ahhh....

I highly recommend night interruption lighting, so you can control when the plants will flower.

Ahh, ok! I was thinking of starting them in the VEG room downstairs (which will stay running as a house heater), and then when I took them to the roof, they would flower out.
But if mold is a problem here (and it could be) then I need to keep running any indica hybrid girls indoors.
I need to search for CBD Sativas with high mold resistance and loose buds, sounds like.

I think you'd probably be fine with a mold-resistant sativa having it inside a greenhouse. You could check out my thread for ideas HERE.

Great!! Thank you!! I hope to check it out later. (I have a meeting in five minutes).

You should have the ability to vent the greenhouse during hot times of the year. That implies some big openings (screen or no screen) and fans.

I will have to show pics later, but I have two big windows, the door, and a top vent. And as soon as I can get electricity strung I will have some fans (sounds like I need more fans!).

If you've got plenty of air flow, it should be fairly easy to stabilize the internal humidity to the external ambient humidity. I don't have any experience dealing with "cold" external temps, and maintaining the right temp and humidity internal.

Ahh, ok! Basically you have to close the plastic to keep warm, and that makes extra humidity. So you have to balance between ventilated and warm...

Are you talking about a 1:1 THC/CBD plant?

I seem to do best with 1 part THC and 1+ parts CBD. So now I need to find sativas.

In general, it may be better to shoot for getting your CBD from CBD plants, that way you have more choices for the THC plant(s), in terms of mold-resistance, THC percent, etc.

Did @Azimuth put you up to saying that? Haha! (He says the same thing!)
I am totally open to it, and hope to look for Sativa CBD seeds this week.

Yes, Blueberry is known to be mold-resistant (i.e. bud rot resistant). I'm trying out a couple 50/50 strains that contain BB genetics... they are still babies at this point: Blue Widow and HI-BISCUS. I also have a couple BB freebies.

Again, check out my thread for my observations regarding mold-resistance. HERE.

Regarding growing in the ground outdoors... then you really need to have some genetics that are adapted to your region, that are known to do well outdoors.

Good idea. I will look for CBD sativas in country also.

They will be getting rained on, so you wouldn't have the control over that as you do in a greenhouse. Now, if you grew them in a greenhouse, one would expect them to also do very well, and perhaps even better because you can control the nutrients, and provide night interruption lighting.

Siii....

By 1:1 you mean THC/CBD?

Yes, or even more CBD. Got to run right now. Hope to be back later! :thank you:

 

[Azimuth]

Hmm... does indica take longer than sativa? Or sativa take longer than indica?

Sativa's are mostly originally from equatorial regions. Stable but hot days and no real pressure on plants to finish so they can go a looong time. Indica's originated from the Indian and Pakistani mountainous regions and with those there is a reason to hurry up and finish, called winter.

Sativas generally are tall, lanky plants, and indicas more squatty and bushy.

Did @Azimuth put you up to saying that? Haha! (He says the same thing!)

'Cause it's the truth! Or at least a better way to go.