You basically hit the nail on the head
@bluter ! We are limited to the cdn market and the costs involved for sponsoring on this forum just don’t make sense at this relatively early stage of our evolution. And yeah… you have been tough on us since the beginning of this thread, which is why we kinda came out swinging at the beginning too. To be honest at the beginning of our interactions, the lyrics from the song I’m gonna burn one down by Ben Harper came to mind more than once: “so before you knock it, try it first and you’ll see it’s a blessing and it’s not a curse!” But looking at everything you’ve contributed, and especially at this most recent post, we really get the feeling that you’ve been hard on us, not out of malice or bad blood, but rather because you care about protecting the 420 community, of which you are obviously a respected member of, from a potential bad actor looking to take advantage of less informed members. But I think you’re starting to see that we’re not looking to scam anyone. If we were bad actors, it wouldn’t make much sense to remain engaged in this back and forth dialogue… but for us it’s the opposite…we are absolutely thrilled that you’re receptive to taking some of our clones as a sample. Being new on this forum (and on forums period
), at first, to be honest, I was a little clueless as to who was who in the community but now that time has afforded me the opportunity to do a little research, I’ve wizened up a little and can only say to you
@bluter : Respect!! You’ve been a member of this community for many years, and your credentials are impressive with the member of the month and grow journal of the month badges, not to mention the thousands of contributions you’ve made that have been followed by thousands more growers on 420… honestly, we’re humbled that you would even take an interest and would be proud to send you an order, on the house. Also because we know that you’re gonna give folks the straight up, unvarnished truth about your experience. That’s perfect. That’s all we can ask for and all we would ever expect. I should say that this is not our first business venture. We know what it takes to run a successful one over many years. If there’s one thing we’ve learned over the years is that you only get one opportunity to impress new customers… best way to achieve this is to deliver on what you promise. Honor what you advertise and you’ll get repeat customers as opposed to one-time buyers who never come back. And if you’re lucky enough, through hard work and dedication, when you’re consistently putting out a top notch product, some of those repeat customers will become your champions who will refer you to friends and help your business grow. And when your quality speaks for itself, you can even sometimes hope to turn one of your harshest critics into one of your most vocal advocates. That is why our philosophy is to spare no expense in producing the highest quality clones possible. A prime example of this is how we triple inoculate our babies with
Dynomyco mycorrhizae ,
Oath and
MIIM Horticulture beneficial bacteria . These are expensive products, but they also help to make our clones incredibly resilient, healthy, and robust with a ton of big fat white roots…As seen on the pics
@Billysmokealot posted. You will be seeing more soon. We are confident in the quality of our product and that means that we feel genuinely enthusiastic about having an opportunity to send some of our babies to such a trusted and well established member of the 420 community! It is our luck that you are in Canada
@bluter !
At this point it would probably be worth mentioning that between my partner and I, we have about 70 years of combined experience enjoying fine cannabis of all types. Suffice to say that we know what good bud is. Before even contemplating Kind Above The Cut, the very beginning of this adventure for us was a quest to find the very best quality cannabis we could grow. And after having started many, many seeds over a period of over 25 years, one day, after a frustrating crop with a hermaphrodite in the mix
Bye bye sensimilla, hello hundreds of seeds
- we bumped into Breeder Cuts after researching online. So we ordered our first: Apple Fritter. And we were very, very impressed. Then we spent hundreds of dollars and got every Breeder Cut we could get our hands on from the trusted source we had found. None have ever disappointed. Each one of these strains is worth it’s price, in our personal opinion. Speaking of price… Let it be known to the 420 community that we will only be comping this one single order. Out of respect for our loyal customer base who has paid our advertised prices and has only ever gotten the occasional discount, it wouldn’t be fair for us to start comping all sorts of growers. We’re grateful and feel fortunate for the opportunity to partner with
@bluter because we trust that he will be giving everyone totally unbiased feedback.
Also
@bluter you had asked me to clarify my statements about varying look, taste and quality of the same genetics, depending on growing conditions. Not trying to hedge here… just an observation working with my own pool of Breeder Cuts. This summer, for instance, I did something that I hadn’t done for a couple of decades which was to grow some plants outside. All started from my own clones, in mid-June I planted some Apple Fritter, some Khalifa Mints and some Jealousy. The result was impressive! 8 to 12 foot trees with lots of beautifully developed buds that we harvested around the end of October. We are enjoying the curated final product from some of those plants as I type this post actually! But my point is that every strain was remarkably different looking, smelling and tasting from this outdoor crop. If I could have done a side by side comparison with these plants and my indoor versions grown from the same clones, you could swear that they were different strains. Not necessarily better, or worse but just different. These outdoor buds we got are solid with nice density, crystal production and potency, which isn’t always a given with outdoor plants. But they are different. Also, over the years we’ve accumulated quite a bit of growing equipment. We love upgrading our lamps for instance, but we’re never all that happy about throwing out the old lamps. So now we can do trial runs of the same cuts finished under HPS and LED lights. Much less difference than comparing outdoor to indoor but still they don’t quite look or taste the same. I also still have some buddies from the days working in the hydroponic industry, so I’ve seen my genetics grown using other methods than my own… Everything from NFT to ebb-n-flow tables, and of course, the traditional 12” pots with straight Promix. The end product is all AAA when you’re starting with these Breeder Cuts of world class genetics, but there are some variations. And I’m not talking about the kind of variations that you don’t want like plants being ravaged by thrips or mites or say… becoming sick from overwatering or from not getting enough light or suffering from too much heat. I’m talking about guys who know what they’re doing so we’re starting from the premise that everyone has the potential of bringing their crop to a good outcome, regardless of the specific growing method they’re using. We personally find that the best quality comes from genuine living soil because it allows the plant to develop to the fullest expression of its genetics.
We wouldn’t have been of the same opinion 15 years ago, though. When we were working in the hydroponic industry, back in the day when we contributed to bringing the first cannabis specific plant food to eastern Canada with Advanced Nutrients products, we used to think that you couldn’t get good enough yields when growing 100% organic. Back in those days Advanced had the 2+ slogan which referred to getting two or more pounds of dried bud per 1000 watt HPS light. It is only in our more recent growing history that we have converted to living soil after having made the discovery through the boys at Build-a-Soil in Colorado. Back in the early 2000s, never in our wildest dreams would we have thought it possible to produce over 3 g/watt of top notch organic buds boasting a terpene content of over 3%!
But today we are proud to grow almost 100% organic. Like we say on our website… just a little tiny bit of IBA to get the roots going and everything else in our process is entirely organic. Because for us, it’s also about values, at this point. Just like our tree planting initiative where we plant a tree for every clone that we ship out. Speaking of values, we’ve always been impressed
@bluter in seeing the way you defend Ukraine and encourage people not to support Russian suppliers. We couldn’t agree with you more! Our close family member in the Netherlands was actually involved in organizing the logistics for the emergency evacuation of dozens of workers from a major NGO who were stuck in Ukraine in the first few months of the war. And coming from a military family, it also hits close to home and boggles our mind to see what Russia is doing in what amounts to the first major ground invasion of a foreign sovereign nation in modern European history. It’s despicable, honestly.
There’s a lot to say in this one post so I’m gonna wrap it up but we will be providing some pics of our facilities, which are
not where our business is incorporated (pic you posted), in the near future as well.
Anyway, go ahead and place your order on our site for whatever strain strikes your fancy
@bluter and just use your name from this forum on the order form. We’re kind of curious to see which one you’ll choose from our selection! Which ever it ends up being, you may want to take a few cuttings before you put it into flowering because we trust that you’re gonna wanna hold on to these genetics!
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