Charly's 4th Grow - G13 Haze Soctober 2011

[PoohBurrMedic]

ok im really high this is gonna be hard to explain so bare with me if i trail off or something ill try my best LOL!

Ok so it sounds like your going to keep one of these clones as a mother, so i assume you will keep it under that flouro when it roots out. i would keep it under constant light for a few weeks and then go to 18/6 if thats your preference.

and i think you should keep them under the flouro at all times cause HPS is a stretchy spectrum and i think they benefit more from a whiter/bluer spectrum when trying to root.

and what i mean is, they will start to get alittle soft and maybe even yellow a little, thats normal dont freak, and it will seem like the tops are leaning over, when you see those tops moving like when you check on it one time and the top is in one position and then later on it looks like it has moved to the other side of the pot but isnt leaning, you know it might be rooting, but dont check for roots till you see them make progress as in growing. itll be about 2 weeks before you can really disturb them by checking for roots, any time before that you will just be decreasing your chances of a successful root.

hold on bro im gonna take some pics on how i think you should do this cause its always worked for me. im not trying to say its the best but ill explain the details and why i do it and all that good stuff, ill be back!

 

[PoohBurrMedic]

that was a bad idea i dont have any foam cups.

ill try to explain. ok roots need oxygen, and moisture. and same with clones without roots, in order to grow roots the bottoms of the stems need to be conditioned and fooled into growing them.

i use foam or solo cups where you can make holes in the bottom and i make alot of holes. and i just make sure the soil is DAMP not soaked and believe it or not they root faster like that. they need the moisture yes BUT they need the air too or they will just smother.
and as of misting them bro i would put a cup of water in the pot/envelope with them so you dont have to take that bag off alot. that water will evap and create the humidity you need. all i do is stick a cup over my clone or make a make shift humidity dome like what you have and thats it, thats usually enough the moisture from the soil usually makes enough himidity.
hope i helpped man
my summation,

try not to remove or disturb that envelope as much as possible,
keep them in one light dont move them back and forth that could stress them as they are still living plants,
think about keeping the soil damp not wet, maybe even moving your clones into foam or solo cups with holes in the sides and bottom.
just my thoughts brotha lookin good!

 

[ggrant]

Hey Pooh,

Thanks for the advice. What you said makes really good sense. I did read about not watering the clones after you root them, I haven't added any water to the pots and they have holes on the bottom, so the soil should allow oxygen to get to the roots.

I didn't realize how much heat CFL's give off. I'm using a 42.5 W bulb (equal to 150 incandescent watts). The first day, I also turned on a space heater in the small room I'm using to clone them. After I checked on them, I couldn't believe how warm the chamber was. I almost had stewed greens (LOL).

I moved the CLF further away and no more space heater and I think they're doing fine. As you said, I haven't been moving the cover much. I'll give an update in a couple of days on their progress,

Meanwhile, here are some more pictures. It's really beginning to look like the crop is in full flower. The interspace nodes are starting to fill in.

Fill 'Er Up

Fillin' In The Blanks

Here's a picture of one of the fatter buds:

Hey Bud

 

[PoohBurrMedic]

im gonna eat your plants buddy

and yeah CFLs especially those big bastards like what you are using can make alot of heat.
the clones dont need so much light as you think brother, i was using a 23w cfl 12 inches away when i cloned mine, it wasnt by choice i just didnt have any other option but have my clone so far below, but it worked fine so just keep that in mind CFLs arent the best but they do that job perfectly when you position them right

everything sounds great on your end!

 

[ggrant]

Here are some more recent photos.

Trimmed another huge batch of leaves from the crop.

Latest Trim

After the trimming, here's what the ladies look like.

Room to Grow

Had a winter storm recently. Time for Hot Chocolate and Peppermint Schnapps!

Winter Wonderland !!!​

 

[PoohBurrMedic]

your plants look awesome as fuck bro

 

[ggrant]

Thanks, Pooh!

I'm still waiting on my clones. They're still alive but some of the leaves are starting to yellow. I was hoping to see some dramatic growth like when a seed is sprouted, but I guess they're spending most of their energy building roots. At least I hope so.

Here are a couple more pictures:

Google Earth Aerial View

Best Buds

 

[ggrant]

Just a couple more pics. It's really beginning to look like the crop is into serious flowering.

Ola Cola !

Who's Your BUD - dy?

Budocious

 

[PoohBurrMedic]

gettin some frost buddy

 

[ggrant]

Just one more bud photo. I can't believe how gooey and sweet it looks. Sort of reminds me of cotton candy! Like the cake in "Alice in Wonderland" said

Eat Me !!!

 

[ggrant]

Hello All,

Some new pictures. It's the end of the fifth week of flowering. I've trimmed some more leaves. I'm surprised at how many there were. I thought the growth would stablilize by now. I'm still using the MH bulb. I want them to recover from their last haircut and then I'll switch to HPS for the last five weeks.

The Falling Leaves

Here is a picture of the canopy after the pruning:

Field of Dreams

The buds are starting to get frosty. Here's a picture of one of the nicer ones:

Frosty The Snowman

 

[PoohBurrMedic]

im comin over to cut a sample and take a clone. see you in a bit.

 

[ggrant]

Pooh, I wish I could give you a clone!

By the way, here's the latest picture of my clones, It's been about two weeks. They're still really runty. Maybe that's because I tried to clone them after they had flowered. They seem healthy, but they haven't grown very much. Is this normal?

Send in the Clones (There Ought to be Clones)

 

[vannelle]

yes ..... at this stage they need to get back in the grow phase, that takes time....let them recooparate(as im dutch i dont know if the word is correct.....but it sounds like what i want to say. )

 

[ggrant]

Thanks, Vannelle!

I've never tried cloning before. After seeing all the videos of people taking cuttings with big fat fan leaves and seeing the massive growth, I was wondering why mine were so slow in developing.

The clones look healthy and I guess they have a root system. I've been leaving them out uncovered for three to four hours at a time. They get a bit droopy and I cover them back up.

And, yes, Vannelle, the word you used is correct, but it's spelled "recuperate."

Will the bud on top retard the return to the vegetative state, i.e., should I cut it off or is the clone too fragile for this or maybe it doesn't make a bit of difference?

P.S. You're so lucky to be living in a place with hash cafes and Doutzen Kroess!

 

[vannelle]

Thanks.....she really is bootiful...and smart!


i wouldnt cut anything off.......if you cut something off it would be the half of the fan leaves....so they wont evaporate humidity ......


it will all be well.....growing isnt rocket science. .....i still am very puzzled by the harvesting of the fan leaves ive seen it alot in ongoing grows...on this forum......i must say i like it alot.....I dont dare to try tho.......how s the rate of hermies after doing this?......it seems very stressfull to the Girls.

 

[ggrant]

Thanks for the info, Vannelle! I was always wondering why the people cut part of the fan leaves off. These plants are all from feminized seeds. Do you think the re-vegging process could cause the clones to go hermaphrodite? God, I hope not!

Anyway, here are some more pictures of the crop:

No matter how many leaves I cut off, the canopy is so dense, not much light gets below the surface. Here's what it looks like below the surface:

WelcomeTo The Jungle

Today's Jeopardy question. In my best Alec Trebek voice, "They are epidermal outgrowths on cannabis plants."

What Are Trichomes?

Still trying to get the perfect trichome pictures. Here's another:

Trichome City

Finally, here's one of the nicer bud photos:

RoseBud

 

[PoohBurrMedic]

is it just my computer or is 420mags pics just on the fritz today?

i dont see any pics and im like :O I WANNA SEE SOME BOMB ASS CANNABIS! DAMN IT!

FROM THE TEXT, everything sounds all good................BUT FROM THE PICS, i cant see anything I was interested in the jungle under the canopy but NOOOO either my laptop or 420mag wont let me.

lol

 

[Twelve12]

Love the bud shots. Your plants are flowering nicely.

 

[ggrant]

Thanks for stopping by, Twelve12 !

I was wondering if I was overdoing it with the bud photos.

Hey, Pooh, I think it must have been a problem with the 420mag feed. I'm looking at my journal now and can see the photos. I really don't think it has anything to do with your laptop.

I'm going to post some more photos. If you're still having prblems seeing them, let me know.

Big Bud

The Bud - dha