Changing dark time

[SmokingWings]

it has to do with how the driver fires up. an hid pulls more through the timer itself on start up. a led driver uses signal, which is in milliamps to initiate start up, it only needs a fraction of what hid requires.

Got it. Thanks.

 

[CaptainLucky]

the timers with metal pins and gears are bullet proof. the timers with plastic pins and gears will jam, leaving the appliance permanently on or off, and sometimes overheat on their own eventually catching fire.

if you have hid i'd use an analog timer with metal pins and gears. the heat breaks down the plastic ones and they eventually fail.





also never use digital timers with hid. led kinda prefers digital. it's better on led drivers.

Everything I have electrical is plugged into a surge protector strip that has an overload circuit. I also keep a H-D Fire extinguisher in reach. After seeing @Bill284 thread on fire safety. I also have a smoke detector and CO2 detector. You can’t be too careful about fire . CL.

 

[bluter]

Everything I have electrical is plugged into a surge protector strip that has an overload circuit. I also keep a H-D Fire extinguisher in reach. After seeing @Bill284 thread on fire safety. I also have a smoke detector and CO2 detector. You can’t be too careful about fire .

surge protectors do nothing to stop a fire. they are to protect electronics in the case of an over supply or spike in power supply. they only work on supply side.

they do nothing to keep malfunctioning equipment from over drawing and causing a melt down and fire. it's the draw side where fires happen. not the supply side.

edit : the safer choice is a power outlet supply bar that is fused or has a built in breaker. those are the ones that protect against over draw and fire. the entire supply shuts down if the fuse blows or there is an overdraw.

all the surge protector does is continue to supply power in event of over draw until it melts itself and becomes part of the fire.

 

[CaptainLucky]

surge protectors do nothing to stop a fire. they are to protect electronics in the case of an over supply or spike in power supply. they only work on supply side.

they do nothing to keep malfunctioning equipment from over drawing and causing a melt down and fire. it's the draw side where fires happen. not the supply side.

edit : the safer choice is a power outlet supply bar that is fused or has a built in breaker. those are the ones that protect against over draw and fire. the entire supply shuts down if the fuse blows or there is an overdraw.

all the surge protector does is continue to supply power in event of over draw until it melts itself and becomes part of the fire.

Why does it have a circuit breaker? CL

 

[bluter]

Why does it have a circuit breaker? CL

surge protectors do not have a circuit breaker.

edit : this has been covered at length. just google or do a search here.

 

[CaptainLucky]

surge protectors do not have a circuit breaker.

edit : this has been covered at length. just google or do a search here.

Ok fine it’s not a circuit breaker so what do you call that red switch and the white button that pops out? CL

 

[SmokingWings]

...it’s not a circuit breaker so what do you call that red switch and the white button that pops out?

Probably is a surge protector. There are power supply cords with pop up button surge protectors.

Have some spending money if looking for a power supply with both a surge protector and a circuit breaker on it. Saw some on line for about $45 to $50.

Learned more that I wanted in the last 15 minutes reading up on power strips, surge protectors, circuit breakers and extension cords.

 

[bluter]

Ok fine it’s not a circuit breaker so what do you call that red switch and the white button that pops out? CL

it's called a surge protection circuit. it is not a breaker. it works on the supply side. fuses and circuit breakers work on the draw side.

i work with lighting / electrical in the show production industry. the two are very different, but most people make the same basic mistake between the two.

edit : we use breakers on every piece of equipment we use. we draw our own power from the grid and condition it for use on stage. we only use our own distros. breakers and fusing are important tools for us.

surge protectors do little, we don't need or use them, all the stuff used in professional show production has internal surge protection. we avoid power bars altogether.

 

[CaptainLucky]

it's called a surge protection circuit. it is not a breaker. it works on the supply side. fuses and circuit breakers work on the draw side.

i work with lighting / electrical in the show production industry. the two are very different, but most people make the same basic mistake between the two.

edit : we use breakers on every piece of equipment we use. we draw our own power from the grid and condition it for use on stage. we only use our own distros. breakers and fusing are important tools for us.

surge protectors do little, we don't need or use them, all the stuff used in professional show production has internal surge protection. we avoid power bars altogether.

Do they make one for the draw side that you can buy? CL

 

[bluter]

Do they make one for the draw side that you can buy? CL

there are loads of fused or breaker equipped power bars. many come with both surge protection and a breaker.

 

[bluter]

@CaptainLucky .. for an example.

the yellow power box in this pic is circuit breaker protected. this type is quite common, the construction industry uses them in canada by law.

 

[BeccaBuds]

Here's the outlet strip I recommend. It has surge suppression, rf filters, fuse, circuit breaker & status indicators. I could get more technical (I am a retired Electronics Engineer) but suffice it to say "Best in the World". They also make them with 2, 4, 6 or 8 outlets with or without ethernet or modem protection.

Datasheet​

 

[CaptainLucky]

Here's the outlet strip I recommend. It has surge suppression, rf filters, fuse, circuit breaker & status indicators. I could get more technical (I am a retired Electronics Engineer) but suffice it to say "Best in the World". They also make them with 2, 4, 6 or 8 outlets with or without ethernet or modem protection.

Datasheet​

Is it dual protected from overload? CL.

 

[bluter]

Here's the outlet strip I recommend. It has surge suppression, rf filters, fuse, circuit breaker & status indicators. I could get more technical (I am a retired Electronics Engineer) but suffice it to say "Best in the World". They also make them with 2, 4, 6 or 8 outlets with or without ethernet or modem protection.

that's a deluxe unit for sure.

 

[BeccaBuds]

Is it dual protected from overload? CL.

Yes, it surge protects (up to 3840 Joules) in normal mode (hot to neutral), common mode (hot to ground & neutral to ground) and much more. For the full dope, see the Datasheet.