Carmen's Winter Autos With ViparSpectra XS1500 Pro!

Gee64 said:
Maybe despise was a little harsh. Let me explain. And this is all pertaining to living soil.

It doesnt really matter what you feed them as long as its a recommended LOS input, and its fully broad spectrum, so within reason you can feed organics pretty easy.

What matters is the myco fungii, because it oversees the management of what microbes mine what foods, and where, and it does it well because it takes orders directly from the plant, aquires it from the correct microbes and gives it to the plant. The plant in turn pays the fungii in sugar, and the fungii pays the microbes with sugar.

If you introduce foliars the plant says "Cool, I don't need to pay the fungii for say nitrogen, because you are using foliar fish ferts."

It works really well but the fungii stops paying the nitrogen crew and the nitrogen crew goes dormant. Then the soil starts to go out of balance.

Now if you hit your plant with 1 or 2 foliars over its life to perk it up then certainly do, once or twice won't piss off the myco, but don't expect high brix unless you foliar forever and be ready to foliar whatever counter measures you need to apply the rebalance the soil, if you choose to ho the foliar route.

It can totally be done but the despise part is purely personal to me, I am lazy and busy. Foliars are a lot of work on a strict schedule. For that reason I despise them. Plus myco works better in LOS.

Absolutely no offense towards foliar feeders here, they are very effective at delivering whatever it is you are feeding.
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This makes sense to me! Way to explain GEE!
 
You had me at this is a Parmesan.....good Lord, two of my favorite things together, cheese and cannabis.

I'm here for the duration! Excited to see these wonderful plants grow up!
 
Krissi Carbone said:
Hello Carmen! I have arrived! Finally! Trying to get to you and GDB before I move over to HG's perpetual, which will take me some time to blow through. Just wanted to give you a ding notification heads up so you don't go into epileptic shock. Excited to be here!
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Welcome aboard Krissi! :love: Thanks for being here!. I'm excited to have you here :)
 
InTheShed said:
I just want to drop Gee's comment from another thread (from a discussion on Brix, but still...):
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Gee64 said:
Maybe despise was a little harsh. Let me explain. And this is all pertaining to living soil.

It doesnt really matter what you feed them as long as its a recommended LOS input, and its fully broad spectrum, so within reason you can feed organics pretty easy.

What matters is the myco fungii, because it oversees the management of what microbes mine what foods, and where, and it does it well because it takes orders directly from the plant, aquires it from the correct microbes and gives it to the plant. The plant in turn pays the fungii in sugar, and the fungii pays the microbes with sugar.

If you introduce foliars the plant says "Cool, I don't need to pay the fungii for say nitrogen, because you are using foliar fish ferts."

It works really well but the fungii stops paying the nitrogen crew and the nitrogen crew goes dormant. Then the soil starts to go out of balance.

Now if you hit your plant with 1 or 2 foliars over its life to perk it up then certainly do, once or twice won't piss off the myco, but don't expect high brix unless you foliar forever and be ready to foliar whatever counter measures you need to apply the rebalance the soil, if you choose to ho the foliar route.

It can totally be done but the despise part is purely personal to me, I am lazy and busy. Foliars are a lot of work on a strict schedule. For that reason I despise them. Plus myco works better in LOS.

Absolutely no offense towards foliar feeders here, they are very effective at delivering whatever it is you are feeding.
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Thank you both. I read your initial explanation in your Gee Spot thread was it, Gee? I find your explanations really helpful and I did bear this in mind when I did the foliar. It was meant to be a one off feed. I won't do it again. I'd far rather the myco is in healthy nick.
 
Krissi Carbone said:
You had me at this is a Parmesan.....good Lord, two of my favorite things together, cheese and cannabis.

I'm here for the duration! Excited to see these wonderful plants grow up!
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Two of my fave Italian culinary items... parmesan and gelato as cannabis 😃
 
Greetings Friends,

Here the plants are this sunny day in winter. We have dropped down to some pretty low temps in the last couple of weeks, but in the room under the lights it measures a fairly constant 19.5 to 20.0 degrees C, perfect. My humidity is sitting in the mid-fifties most of the time. What is ideal for flower?

Gelato Auto 1 at 14 days old. Happy in her pot of mushy compost mix. Hopefully those roots will be busy working their way into the medium and deriving sufficient nutrition to veg like a beast.

Gelato Auto 2 14 Days

Gelato Auto 2 14 Days

2 Week old cannabis seedling.

Gelato Auto 2 14 Days

Gelato Auto 2 14 Days

Two week old cannabis seedling.

Gelato Auto 2 at 30 days old. Happily swicking and vegging. Still no flower. Is it possible that topping when seeing first pistils shocks the auto enough to delay flower a little longer, while maxing out on the auxins? I am tucking leaves to expose side branches.

Gelato Auto 1 30Days

Gelato Auto 1 30Days

Still no flower

Gelato Auto 1 30 Days

Gelato Auto 1 30 Days

Still no flower.
Leaf tucking to expose new branches.

Parmesan Auto at 30 days old. Also happily swicking and vegging too. It is starting to get a little pongy and I am greeted with weed smell when I arrive home, but still no flower!

Parmesan Auto 30 Days

Parmesan Auto 30 Days

Preparing preflower

Parmesan Auto 30 Days

Parmesan Auto 30 Days

Still no flower

Thanks for following along!
 
Hi Carm, I like to keep flowering humidity in a range of 35 to 50% for what I think is a perfect zone. Because I can, I drop it to 35% when buds get big and fat. They say 50% is a good goal. You're good there I think with a fan.
Carmen Ray said:
Is it possible that topping when seeing first pistils shocks the auto enough to delay flower a little longer, while maxing out on the auxins?
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Anything is on the table with these plants. Maybe.
 
Carmen Ray said:
Is it possible that topping when seeing first pistils shocks the auto enough to delay flower a little longer, while maxing out on the auxins?
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StoneOtter said:
Maybe
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I'm going with Otter's solid maybe! No one can prove anything with autos since you can't do any kind of comparison. I topped my CBG auto as soon as I saw pistils and ended up with this:

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I don't think I gained anything, because I topped it at 29 days and it just went on flowering!
 
InTheShed said:
I'm going with Otter's solid maybe! No one can prove anything with autos since you can't do any kind of comparison. I topped my CBG auto as soon as I saw pistils and ended up with this:

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I don't think I gained anything, because I topped it at 29 days and it just went on flowering!
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I guess you're right, autos are all so different from one another and you can't compare.
 
Gee64 said:
I have never grown autos but on more than one occasion I have heard that autos do better and yield a lot more in tall cylindrical pots as opposed to shorter wider ones. Has anyone here ever heard about or tried it?
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I've read this too but I've no idea.
 
SSgrower said:
I am going to try nightowl seeds ,Skywalker 😋 auto.
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Yummy :) I hope they do better than my differently branded, sadly stale packet did! I find it hard to get good seeds here in SA.
 
Greetings, the pace is quickening I feel. Gelato 1 has been topped, Gelato 2 up-potted and Parmesan has had a limb removed from her second node. It was not developing well. The swicks are going great and everything seems good for now. The lights are both at 75 % at a distance of 16 inches (or 35 inches away in the case of the second Gelato).

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Table top autos under two ViparSpectra XS1500 Pro

Table top autos under two ViparSpectra XS1500 Pro

Parmesan auto L and Gelato auto 1 R. Lights at 75 % intensity at a distance of 16 inches.
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Gelato auto 1

Gelato auto 1

31 Days above ground. No flower yet.

Gelato auto 1

Gelato auto 1

31 Days above ground. Topped and in training. No flower yet.

Parmesan auto

Parmesan auto

31 Days above ground. Still no flower.

Parmesan Auto

Parmesan Auto

31 Days above ground. Removed weak limb at second node.

Gelato auto 2

Gelato auto 2

15 Days above ground.

Thanks for looking in today.
 
How is it going @Carmen Ray

I see you finally got your problem with moisture figured out.
Do you ever let your wick dry out some or is it always wet?

The only suggest I have at this point is slow down a little on your decision making.
I mean try not to make rash decision, you are doing great, just take your time and enjoy the flowers.
(pun intended :yahoo:)

Be safe, and grow well my friend,
Tok..
 
StoneOtter said:
Hi Carm, I like to keep flowering humidity in a range of 35 to 50% for what I think is a perfect zone. Because I can, I drop it to 35% when buds get big and fat. They say 50% is a good goal. You're good there I think with a fan.

Anything is on the table with these plants. Maybe.
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Hey Otter, I was checking my posts and noticed that I didn't reply to you about this. Sorry bout that :)
Thanks for the info about the humidity!
Gosh I'm nice and buzzing right now. This Red Russian is bliss :passitleft:
 
Tokin Roll said:
How is it going @Carmen Ray

I see you finally got your problem with moisture figured out.
Do you ever let your wick dry out some or is it always wet?

The only suggest I have at this point is slow down a little on your decision making.
I mean try not to make rash decision, you are doing great, just take your time and enjoy the flowers.
(pun intended :yahoo:)

Be safe, and grow well my friend,
Tok..
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Wheeeee Tok, I'm high right now my friend :) Nice to see you and you're right I do obsess and make some rash decisions sometimes.
This is my second swick grow so I haven't really established a pattern yet but the idea is to keep the wick wet all the time. This time I did the flush on the one and the treatment top watered in on the other, so I had too much water in the pots and the solution was to reverse wick the excess into towels. That was Shed's idea and another goodie. That chap is full of good ideas!
I would prefer to swick going forward. I think it is way easier than top watering and it really shouldn't go wrong. It hasn't for me so far.
Be safe too Toke :passitleft: #stillsmoking
 
Carmen Ray said:
Greetings, the pace is quickening I feel. Gelato 1 has been topped, Gelato 2 up-potted and Parmesan has had a limb removed from her second node. It was not developing well. The swicks are going great and everything seems good for now. The lights are both at 75 % at a distance of 16 inches (or 35 inches away in the case of the second Gelato).

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Table top autos under two ViparSpectra XS1500 Pro

Table top autos under two ViparSpectra XS1500 Pro

Parmesan auto L and Gelato auto 1 R. Lights at 75 % intensity at a distance of 16 inches.
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Correction:
I had the distance from the light incorrectly recorded for G2. That seedling is not as close to the light as the bigger plants. I fixed it.

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