Carcass' $150 Low Budget Grow 2019

[West Hippie]

Thanks so much, guys! If it weren't for the Purpinator, you'd probably be offering me condolences instead...

Once they get into the rez, the only way out is through the plant.!.
I'm actually a bit surprised that both my plants can handle 15ml of Purpinator, twice a day, with no adverse effects...but they just keep soakin' it up!

Hi, Shed! I've dropped the dosage down to 30mg CBG+ 20mg CBD three times a day- I blended the 2 isolates @ 3parts CBG to 2 parts CBD, so I just take 50mg of the blend...(3x/day)
Does it have any positive effects? I don't know- but it doesn't hurt anything, either!

The biggest bud on the ATF started out that way!

for that! I'm going to start with just bedtime for now and I guess work my way up from 10 to 30mg an hour before I hit the sack. Being able to fall back to sleep after the 4am bathroom trip is my main goal (is that why they call it the "wee" hours of the morning?).

I bought 10 grams of the CBGA and I’m going to mix it with THC . Since it’s not decarbed thinking I need to let the mix cool down to at least 80 f unless you guys have a better way of getting it into capsules. Thinking of 5 grams into 100 mL of CCO & 20 grams of rosin .

 

[InTheShed]

I bought 10 grams of the CBGA and I’m going to mix it with THC . Since it’s not decarbed thinking I need to let the mix cool down to at least 80 f unless you guys have a better way of getting it into capsules. Thinking of 5 grams into 100 mL of CCO & 20 grams of rosin .

Are you going to decarb the CBGa at the same time you do your THC rosin? Also, do you have an idea of the mg/ml on each so you can get an idea of dosing?

@Carcass we can move this to my thread if you would prefer...

 

[Carcass]

Being able to fall back to sleep after the 4am bathroom trip is my main goal

I hope it works for you, Shed- I have slept better than ever since I've been taking it..but really, there's no way to know for sure if the CBG is what's doing it (no science) but I have a strong feeling that it is..

You could even take a second dose while you're up @ 4am..it couldn't hurt...

(is that why they call it the "wee" hours of the morning?).

I think it is!

unless you guys have a better way of getting it into capsules. Thinking of 5 grams into 100 mL of CCO & 20 grams of rosin .

My isolates are powdered, so I just fill the capsules one at a time...Damn, West- that's some strong stuff you're making!

@Carcass we can move this to my thread if you would prefer...

Nah, it's cool right here- Thanks for offering, though

 

[West Hippie]

Are you going to decarb the CBGa at the same time you do your THC rosin? Also, do you have an idea of the mg/ml on each so you can get an idea of dosing?

@Carcass we can move this to my thread if you would prefer...

Oh no I want to keep the A in there . Remember he said it takes the A out if you decarb it .
You got the test subject right here .

 

[InTheShed]

Oh no I want to keep the A in there . Remember he said it takes the A out if you decarb it .
You got the test subject right here .

Oh sorry, didn't realize you wanted the acid version. I was going for the decarbed version since that's what Carcass has. I would just heat it until it's a good consistency to mix. I doubt you'd decarb it in that short a time.

 

[Azimuth]

I hope it works for you, Shed- I have slept better than ever since I've been taking it..but really, there's no way to know for sure if the CBG is what's doing it (no science) but I have a strong feeling that it is..

You could even take a second dose while you're up @ 4am..it couldn't hurt...

Interesting. The comparison charts I've seen suggest CBD is better for sleep than CBG but sleep is mentioned for both. I use about 50mg CBGa at lunch during the week and really haven't noticed much difference. Maybe I should decarb some and give that a try.

 

[HashGirl]

Hi, Shed! I've dropped the dosage down to 30mg CBG+ 20mg CBD three times a day- I blended the 2 isolates @ 3parts CBG to 2 parts CBD, so I just take 50mg of the blend...(3x/day)
Does it have any positive effects? I don't know- but it doesn't hurt anything, either!

Does taking this much CBG during the day impact how high you get when you're taking something with THC or whether you can get high at all?

for that! I'm going to start with just bedtime for now and I guess work my way up from 10 to 30mg an hour before I hit the sack. Being able to fall back to sleep after the 4am bathroom trip is my main goal (is that why they call it the "wee" hours of the morning?).

All ages have "wee hours". At our age, it's bathroom trips and for younger people who have drunk so much, they have to pee all the time.

 

[West Hippie]

Oh sorry, didn't realize you wanted the acid version. I was going for the decarbed version since that's what Carcass has. I would just heat it until it's a good consistency to mix. I doubt you'd decarb it in that short a time.

I gave the 5 grams of CBG to the women it was $20 and I kept the CBGA for me 10 grams for $70 . I will definitely give y’all a shout when I mix it up . Reason I said 20 grams of rosin was it’s purple punch and I have 30 grams of rosin on hand . I made a batch with 13 grams of rosin in 100 mL of CCO and I have to take 3 capsules to get a decent buzz so I think it ought to be perfect at grams .
Thank you for your help .

 

[Carcass]

Does taking this much CBG during the day impact how high you get when you're taking something with THC or whether you can get high at all?

Now that you mention it- it does take a bit more weed to get me high than it used to- used to be 2 hits did the trick, now it's 4 hits- same weed as before , so I think taking the CBG/CBD has given me a higher tolerance...I still get good and high, it just takes a bit more weed to do it...

All of the comparison charts I've seen suggest CBD is better for sleep than CBG but sleep is mentioned for both.

My experience has been that low doses of CBD help me with sleep, but higher doses (50mg+) seem to keep me awake, so I keep the dosage at apx 20mg at a time.
Everybody's different, though..

I gave the 5 grams of CBG to the women it was $20 and I kept the CBGA for me 10 grams for $70 .

I'll try some CBGa next time I order isolates, see If I notice any differences between it and CBG...

 

[Azimuth]

Now that you mention it- it does take a bit more weed to get me high than it used to- used to be 2 hits did the trick, now it's 4 hits- same weed as before , so I think taking the CBG/CBD has given me a higher tolerance...I still get good and high, it just takes a bit more weed to do it...

CBD has the effect of counteracting the high of THC to a certain extent. So if you get too high, taking some CBD can bring you down some, although small amounts of each are said to enhance the effects of the other.

Don't know if CBG works the same way, though.

My experience has been that low doses of CBD help me with sleep, but higher doses (50mg+) seem to keep me awake, so I keep the dosage at apx 20mg at a time.
Everybody's different, though..

Thanks for that. I'm planning to make some gummies with my next CBD harvest so that's something for me to keep in mind.

Do you know if the CBD you have came from a sativa or indica strain? I'm assuming that matters and may explain why some CBD products are touted for energy and awareness and others for relaxation. But maybe it's also dose dependent.

 

[InTheShed]

Do you know if the CBD you have came from a sativa or indica strain? I'm assuming that matters and may explain why some CBD products are touted for energy and awareness and others for relaxation. But maybe it's also dose dependent.

@Amy Gardner used to mention that, like alcohol, cannabis is biphasic in it's effects, so my guess is it's dose dependent:

The reason I say a super tiny amount might suit you is because cannabis has been shown to be “biphasic” which means a higher dose may give an opposite effect to a low dose. So more does not necessarily give of the same effect.

Sue used to talk about not taking CBD right at bedtime because it would delay sleep, but she didn't mention dosing that I recall.

 

[Azimuth]

My experience has been that low doses of CBD help me with sleep, but higher doses (50mg+) seem to keep me awake, so I keep the dosage at apx 20mg at a time.
Everybody's different, though..

Indeed.

OTOH, A doc in this video says most people don't take enough to get a therapeutic dose. He says 60-120mg, if I recall correctly, for sleep and pain.

But, based on your experience I think I'll make my gummies pretty low dose to start and see how many are needed to determine how strong to make them in the future.

I'm running an indica CBD strain this round which is different from my sativa version in the past.

 

[HashGirl]

Now that you mention it- it does take a bit more weed to get me high than it used to- used to be 2 hits did the trick, now it's 4 hits- same weed as before , so I think taking the CBG/CBD has given me a higher tolerance...I still get good and high, it just takes a bit more weed to do it...

CBD can be used to counteract THC, i.e. if you get too high and need to come down a bit. That's why I take all my CBD at bedtime (31 mg) because I getting high and even doing that sometimes hurts.

CBD has the effect of counteracting the high of THC to a certain extent. So if you get too high, taking some CBD can bring you down some, although small amounts of each are said to enhance the effects of the other.

See.

Do you know if the CBD you have came from a sativa or indica strain? I'm assuming that matters and may explain why some CBD products are touted for energy and awareness and others for relaxation. But maybe it's also dose dependent.

@Amy Gardner used to mention that, like alcohol, cannabis is biphasic in it's effects, so my guess is it's dose dependent:

I didn't know what biphasic meant so when I looked it up on Google, I found this great article on it that is cannabis-specific:

The Biphasic Effect of Cannabis in Simple Terms

Sue used to talk about not taking CBD right at bedtime because it would delay sleep, but she didn't mention dosing that I recall.

That's what I always thought and why I avoided it for so long but when Felonious was taking it, he always took it before bed so I switched to bedtime, which helped with my highs earlier in the day.

 

[Carcass]

Do you know if the CBD you have came from a sativa or indica strain?

I don't- but the isolates I get are Hemp-derived- is there indica and sativa Hemp?

Sue used to talk about not taking CBD right at bedtime because it would delay sleep,

I had read that quite awhile ago, and it seems true in my case...

But, based on your experience I think I'll make my gummies pretty low dose to start and see how many are needed to determine how strong to make them in the future.

If they end up too strong, you can always cut them in half...if I take more than half of one of my thc gummies, I'll need to clear my schedule for the rest of the day....

I didn't know what biphasic meant so when I looked it up on Google, I found this great article on it that is cannabis-specific:

The Biphasic Effect of Cannabis in Simple Terms

I didn't either- Thanks, HashGirl

 

[Azimuth]

That was interesting that CBD in higher doses has a calming effect, and a more energizing one at lower levels. I may have to rethink my strategy.

 

[InTheShed]

That was interesting that CBD in higher doses has a calming effect, and a more energizing one at lower levels. I may have to rethink my strategy.

I believe that folks using it for anxiety and the like are taking very high doses, like 100-300mg.

 

[Lerugged]

Plants look amazing Carcass. Winning

 

[Carcass]

That was interesting that CBD in higher doses has a calming effect, and a more energizing one at lower levels. I may have to rethink my strategy.

I believe that folks using it for anxiety and the like are taking very high doses, like 100-300mg.

I have yet to try a few high (200mg+) doses, but I just got 20g of CBD isolate, so I'll try it this week.

Plants look amazing Carcass.

Thank you for the kind words, Lerugged!
It won't be long now...in fact, lets have another look!

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It's Monday Update time, so here we go...

First up, the 122 day old ATF- 99 days in the SIP, and she was flipped 70 days ago...still 21" tall...
The Saugaview®: (I turned the light down to 50w for the pics)

She's still getting 15ml of Purpinator with every watering- the funky looking leaves are old, from before the Purpinator got things cleared up.
The Grow Dots are still doing their thing, except for the p&k, which I started supplementing at apx 70 days in...I'll do that from now on when I'm growing in the Dots...
This one has fewer colas than usual, but what she does have are fairly substantial...she's still popping out pistils as if she were a youngster, so she's got some fattening up to do...

Growing in a SIP makes for some strong branches- nothing is sagging on this girl..not yet, anyway...

One of her buds:

This is the bud from node#1- it's the biggest bud on the plant- the other branch from node #1 didn't do squat...

Now for the 108 day old Amnesia Haze- it's her 86th day in the SIP, and she was also flipped 70 days ago.
17" tall, 22" wide...
Her leaves seem a little pale to me, but it's too late in the game to worry about it.

She's been spending all her days out in the sun for the last 3 weeks or so, and oddly enough, the bugs don't seem to be interested in her at all- maybe the 3 ml of Neem oil that I've been adding to her rez every week is keeping them away? It becomes systemic, according to the mfg, so maybe thats why?
I dunno, but whatever it is, I'll take it..

The Neem in the res will also take out any soil gnats you may have buzzing around- The bottom watering
also helps to keep the soil gnat population under control- another SIP benefit!

Still not much to look at, but those buds are big and solid...
She spends 8 hours out in the sun, and 4 hours under the 100w Atreum every day..it's warm enough now that I could leave her in the garage at night, but she wouldn't get enough dark hours if I did that, so she still gets schlepped into the hall closet every night...

She's actually got the flattest canopy ever- odd, since she got minimal training...

Here's her double bud- big, but not as frosty as her other buds...

And, a regular bud- not many new pistils, so she's getting close to done--but, she's still drinking 3/4 gallon a day. She's probably got about a week to go, maybe a little longer..
That will be 11 weeks since 12/12, but, she took 14 days to start flowering after the flip, so split the difference and I'll call next week 10 weeks actual flowering.

And that about does it for today's update!

Thank You for looking, I appreciate your support

Enjoy your week, and I hope all your gardens are doing great...

 

[Stunger]

You have got them looking great Carcass!

She's been spending all her days out in the sun for the last 3 weeks or so, and oddly enough, the bugs don't seem to be interested in her at all- maybe the 3 ml of Neem oil that I've been adding to her rez every week is keeping them away? It becomes systemic, according to the mfg, so maybe thats why?
I dunno, but whatever it is, I'll take it..

I didn't do a single spray of my plants this year as I didn't see any bugs except for the occasional mite that never seemed to increase, and I didn't get any of the usual white butterfly caterpillars either, not one spotted, but I put more Neem meal into and on the soil so maybe that helped, or maybe it was something to do with the deluge of weather we had over summer, but either way I am not complaining.

 

[Grand Daddy Black]

The Grow Dots are still doing their thing, except for the p&k, which I started supplementing at apx 70 days in...I'll do that from now on when I'm growing in the Dots...when I find them.

FTFY!

Growing in a SIP makes for some strong branches- nothing is sagging on this girl..not yet, anyway...

And to me, one of the most attractive things about SIPs. I want a plant that will stand on its own!

Still not much to look at, but those buds are big and solid...

She's a looker to me!