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Light Addict said:
For thrips breaking the life cycle his key. I found the best way is to use any old bug spray and some paper towels. Get a cpl of layers of paper towel fit at soil level around pot then spray the paper with bug spray then fit the wetted paper against the pot etc. Creates a barrier and stops em dead. Also your not putting anything in your soil just keep spraying the paper! :)
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That's a very useful tip LA! Thank you! I will definitely put that to use in the next couple of days. Seems like that would prevent gnats larvae in the soil as well. :)

I used to kill bugs and pests with Skin-So-Soft, even used on animals to kill off fleas. It works wonders as a mosquito repellent too...but I'm not going to spray my plants with it due to the fact that it is going for oil or butter and edibles.

Oh, Btw....+reps for that! :)
 
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I finally got the opportunity between thunderstorms to check on the outdoor kids. I only found 3 of the worms, one was being eaten by spidey (good little spidey), and the other two were hanging out near the buds where I expected. Mine are green and blend in with the plants very well, so I have to look for the little turds they leave behind on the leaves and track them from there. :laugh:

So, all of the outdoor girls got a dose of SNS 217 as well. As soon as I started spraying, a few leaf hoppers took off for the hills. They can stay there.

I'll have some pics in a while. Everybody is flowering except one at the pond. By the way it's acting, I'm sure that is going to be a boy. There is not a single sign of a female calyx beginning anywhere. Even if it does turn out to be female, at this late date it probably would not be of much use to me. But, there's no harm is leaving it there.
 
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First the not so successful part of this outdoor grow.

I don't see that the seaweed (pond weed) mulching has done much good at all really. There isn't a noticeable change in these plants. The leaves are still yellowish, and some have browning, and act much like they need cal/mag as well as nitrogen. It's definitely not a water issue, with all of the rain we've had recently there should have been some improvement.

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This is the no sex shown plant:

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The two girls are budding okay, but I don't expect any great harvests from them at all.
 
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Now we go into the dense jungle....

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Here's one of the front jungle girls, just a random shot:

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And the rest are Auto Fast n Vast x Master Kush. Her pistils are starting to redden. She's pretty:

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The one lone little water droplet intrigued me:

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And this is what I call a cross eyed leaf glutton. These things are almost as bad as the worms, only they don't embed themselves in the buds:

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Alchemist420 said:
That is some nice bondage you got going on your ladies there Cannafan.
Wishing you luck getting rid of those little bugs.
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:thanks: I'm going to need that luck around these parts. :laugh:

Dennise said:
The 217 is amazing stuff... I have it on my little reveg outside and it is amazing to me how healthy she is sitting in the middle of a hay field...:yikes:....:circle-of-love:
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The hayfield girl. I like that. She has pretty company too, with those blue wild flowers.

Dennise said:
Beautiful....:circle-of-love:
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:thanks:
 
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Cannafan said:
UPDATE Indoor veg kids.

White Cookies early signs... appears to be female! Woo Hoo!

Here are White Cookies and Lemon Venom under the Mars 400. They are doing well. Both have been through several toppings and are being trained low.

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I like my White Cookies, it is a really nice plant to train. Hopefully that bigger pot will make it an indoor monster too. :-)

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Lemon Venom grew a little long on one side, but I'm training her back around:





While I was inspecting for female signs with the loupe, I found what appeared to be a thrip. And if you look closely at the lower leaves on Venom, you can see little whitish areas. That's a sure sign of beginning Thrip damage. So, the SNS 217 was put to use right after I took the pics. I know that's for spider mites mostly, but it contains Rosemary. I've read that Rosemary is a good deterrent for thrips as well. It will do until the Neem oil gets here.
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YOu can make one yourself..
the muerte spray I have works too.

2-3 Garlic Cloves

6 large or 12 Small Hot Chili Peppers (or 1-2 Tbs hot chili powder)

1 Tbs Vegetable Oil ( Here I use my Eucalyptus Oil I made)

1 Tsp Natural Liquid Detergent or Soap
4 cups Water
3-4 cups for Dilution

Ingredients in the blender.
Strain the mixture through a cloth.
 
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Thanks AngryBird, I did make some Rosemary/Clove spray last year. But it was a totally different recipe. I will give yours a try, I have everything available here to do it. :thanks:

Plants update today:

I went out this morning to do the daily critter inspection. This time I had my jewelers headset on while I inspected deep inside the plant stems/leaves. I didn't find a single worm! YEY! However, I did find a few tiny aphids. I was waiting for those to start.
I mixed up some more DE spray and treated all with a light coating.
Aphids multiply very quickly, so I'm glad I caught them early.

I wonder....do critters gather around a good cuppa in the mornings and talk about how overpopulated their world is before heading off to hunt for breakfast?

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I'm going to head out to the woods with a large bag and gather up some of the wild mushrooms around here and add them to the compost pile.
I was reading up on mushroom compost yesterday, and I kind of like the idea.

Does anyone know of any reason I shouldn't do this? Mushrooms are supposed to be a benefit to soil and root systems. The shroom compost is used as an amendment by gardeners.

:circle-of-love:
 
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Dennise said:
Makes sense... It's a fungus....:circle-of-love:
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'zactly what I'm thinking. :)

I am not sure whether I should have eaten lunch before I checked on the pondweed brew or not. I'm not hungry in the least now....that stuff stinks to high heaven! I probably would have tossed my lunch.....

It's breaking down though. :)
 
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Cannafan said:
I'm going to head out to the woods with a large bag and gather up some of the wild mushrooms around here and add them to the compost pile.
I was reading up on mushroom compost yesterday, and I kind of like the idea.

Does anyone know of any reason I shouldn't do this? Mushrooms are supposed to be a benefit to soil and root systems. The shroom compost is used as an amendment by gardeners.

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Hi Cannafan! I'm long overdue for checking out your grow. Love your yard. Wish I had a pond like that. Still lots to check out here.:thumb:

RE: mushrooms, I thought mushroom compost was the stuff the mushrooms were grown in and not actually composted mushrooms. Checked online and it is the mix commercial mushroom growers use.

Then again, if you actually meant composted mushrooms you read about I would love to hear more about it.

2 concerns: First, you may end up with large mushrooms popping up in your grow from all the spores. Not a deal breaker. I'd love to have a supply of fresh morels or maybe some liberty caps (haven't done those since high school. :loopy:)
Second, the fungi that benefit plants are the ones growing under the leaf litter and in the soil just below it. Collect a lot of 'forest products' along with the schrooms.

And pictures, I wanna see what you find. :Namaste:
 
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KingstonRabbi said:
Hi Cannafan! I'm long overdue for checking out your grow. Love your yard. Wish I had a pond like that. Still lots to check out here.:thumb:

RE: mushrooms, I thought mushroom compost was the stuff the mushrooms were grown in and not actually composted mushrooms. Checked online and it is the mix commercial mushroom growers use.

Then again, if you actually meant composted mushrooms you read about I would love to hear more about it.

2 concerns: First, you may end up with large mushrooms popping up in your grow from all the spores. Not a deal breaker. I'd love to have a supply of fresh morels or maybe some liberty caps (haven't done those since high school. :loopy:)
Second, the fungi that benefit plants are the ones growing under the leaf litter and in the soil just below it. Collect a lot of 'forest products' along with the schrooms.

And pictures, I wanna see what you find. :Namaste:
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Welcome aboard KingstonRabbi :)

I assumed that mushroom compost meant there was actual mushrooms composted in the mix. :laugh: I saw that it is sold in gardening supply places, and looked over some of the labels. I'll have to check a little more thoroughly.
I found some info on mushrooms being beneficial to plant roots, (in the soil as you stated) and I think I posted that on my seasons thread for someone. Which is why I thought it would be good for the compost pile to use later.

Oregon State University had this article:

Mushrooms can mean healthy soil | Oregon State University Extension Service | Gardening

Here's a couple clips from that:

"Mushrooms are the reproductive structures of fungi and may indicate healthy soil for trees and other plants to grow in."
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Underground, below the mushrooms, are thread-like networks called hyphae. Some attach to plant roots, creating filaments that reach far into the soil, increasing the surface area of plant roots up to a thousand times. Fungal hyphae and plant roots working together are called mycorrhizae.
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Home made soil amendments are fun. LOL

On the varieties I find, I'll point you to my 2016 mushroom chronicles pics:

The Beauty Of The Changing Seasons

The Beauty Of The Changing Seasons

:thanks: for the information, I'm going to dig a little deeper into that compost thing tonight and see what I come up with.

:circle-of-love:

Edit: A little more quick reading and I see that the compost contains the mushroom spores. This is interesting. :)
 
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Hey cannafan nice to see your still on here. It's been like 2 yrs since ive been on here but I'm back growing and posting again. I just sent you a pm wondering if you could spread some knowledge my way.
 
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Greensmurf420 said:
Hey cannafan nice to see your still on here. It's been like 2 yrs since ive been on here but I'm back growing and posting again. I just sent you a pm wondering if you could spread some knowledge my way.
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HI ya Greensmurf and welcome back! I answered your PM. :)

I'll check out your Colloidal Silver thread tomorrow. I've done that before, but I love to check into other journals that do that.

Have fun!

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Cannafan said:
Welcome aboard KingstonRabbi :)

I assumed that mushroom compost meant there was actual mushrooms composted in the mix. :laugh: I saw that it is sold in gardening supply places, and looked over some of the labels. I'll have to check a little more thoroughly.
I found some info on mushrooms being beneficial to plant roots, (in the soil as you stated) and I think I posted that on my seasons thread for someone. Which is why I thought it would be good for the compost pile to use later.

Oregon State University had this article:

Mushrooms can mean healthy soil | Oregon State University Extension Service | Gardening

Here's a couple clips from that:




Home made soil amendments are fun. LOL

On the varieties I find, I'll point you to my 2016 mushroom chronicles pics:

The Beauty Of The Changing Seasons

The Beauty Of The Changing Seasons

:thanks: for the information, I'm going to dig a little deeper into that compost thing tonight and see what I come up with.

:circle-of-love:

Edit: A little more quick reading and I see that the compost contains the mushroom spores. This is interesting. :)
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Actually, Brother, OSU is correct that commercial mushroom growers call their compost "Mushroom Compost", but in general gardening, it involves composting mushrooms with other compostable materials to get a fungally dominated compost instead of a microbially dominated compost. Basically, it's the leftovers after a crop of mushrooms is harvested.

Here's another article, including a recipe:

[h=1]Mushroom Compost Benefits: Organic Gardening With Mushroom Compost[/h] By Nikki Phipps
(Author of The Bulb-o-licious Garden [1])
Mushroom compost makes a great addition to the garden soil. Organic gardening with mushroom compost can be accomplished in several ways and offers many benefits to the garden.
[h=2]What is Mushroom Compost?[/h] Mushroom compost is a type of slow-release, organic plant fertilizer. The compost is made by mushroom growers using organic materials such as hay [2], straw, corn cobs and hulls, and poultry or horse manure [3]. Since the mushroom growing process varies slightly between individual growers, mushroom compost recipes may differ here and there. For instance, additional materials like gypsum [4], peat moss [5], lime, soybean meal, and various other organic items may be added to the compost as well.
Once the mushroom spawn are mixed into the compost, it is steam pasteurized to kill weed seeds and any other harmful agents. A mixed layer of sphagnum moss and lime is top dressed onto the top of the pile for the growth of mushrooms.
Mushroom composting takes about three to four weeks to process, during which it is monitored closely by mushroom growers to maintain adequate temperatures. After the process is complete, the leftover compost is disposed of and sold as fertilizer.
[h=2]Mushroom Compost for Gardening[/h] Mushroom compost is generally sold in bags labeled as SMC or SMS (spent mushroom compost or spent mushroom substrate). It is available at many garden centers or through landscape supply companies. Mushroom compost is also available for purchase by the truckload or bushel, depending on its use in the garden.
There are several uses for mushroom compost. It can be used as soil amendment for lawns, gardens, and container plants. However, this product should be used with caution due to its high soluble salt levels. These salt levels can kill germinating seeds, harm young seedlings, and cause damage to salt-sensitive plants, like azaleas [6] and rhododendrons [7].
[h=2]Mushroom Compost Benefits[/h] The beneficial uses of mushroom compost, however, far outweigh the downside of high salt levels [8]. This type of compost is reasonable inexpensive. It enriches the soil and supplies nutrients for the healthy growth of plants. Mushroom compost also increases the water-holding capacity of the soil, which decreases your watering needs.
Mushroom compost is suitable for most garden plants. It supports various types of plant growth, from fruits and vegetables to herbs and flowers. To get the greatest results when organic gardening with mushroom compost, thoroughly mix it in with the garden soil prior to planting or allow it to sit over winter and apply in spring.
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