Cannabis Oil Users Cafe & Lounge

[Mighty Mouse]

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Don't forget to tell us the recipe for your "ROLL ON" bottles.

I am writing it down as I go. My memory ain't what it used to be. I will share when done. Every one sure loves the roll on bottles. It is nice when you have a place you cannot reach and have someone help. Way less messy for them.

 

[circuit]

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Are any of you creative oilers working with preservatives for topicals? After reading up on manufacturing methods I keep running across fairly complicated requirements for preservatives. It really hit home when I watched a video that starts with the maker spraying iso from a spray bottle and then wiping down bowls and utensils. The formula for determining how much of which chemical to add for preservation are complicated on manufacturing sites, but for home lotion makers, this explanation is nice.

"Phenonip and Germaben II, and Germall Plus are actual preservatives. They inhibit the growth of microorganisms, yeast and fungus in lotions, creams, etc. If one is making products for resale, the FDA requires that you put a preservative in any cosmetic that is not a soap. If you are simply making products for your personal use, you do not have to include preservative. However, if you choose not to preserve your lotion or cream (or other formula) then you must treat the finished product as a perishable food item. Either use it up quickly or store in the refrigerator and use within two weeks." Preservatives in lotion - Why You Must Use Them

I had not given this much consideration until reading about how serious this problem can be, especially for sick people. The amount to add to the mixture seems to run in the 1% range.

Probably a good idea to start a new thread for this, I'll have some pictures in a few days and can start one, unless there is a better way. Too bad that the poppy guy didn't get a chance to defend himself, I am curious what he is doing, sounds like making some sort of crude heroin or morphine. Hope he learns about that stuff early enough to avoid falling into the pit. Thanks for being such a nice group, people enjoy hanging out where there are friendly folks.

 

[Lady Cannafan]

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Are any of you creative oilers working with preservatives for topicals? After reading up on manufacturing methods I keep running across fairly complicated requirements for preservatives. It really hit home when I watched a video that starts with the maker spraying iso from a spray bottle and then wiping down bowls and utensils. The formula for determining how much of which chemical to add for preservation are complicated on manufacturing sites, but for home lotion makers, this explanation is nice.

"Phenonip and Germaben II, and Germall Plus are actual preservatives. They inhibit the growth of microorganisms, yeast and fungus in lotions, creams, etc. If one is making products for resale, the FDA requires that you put a preservative in any cosmetic that is not a soap. If you are simply making products for your personal use, you do not have to include preservative. However, if you choose not to preserve your lotion or cream (or other formula) then you must treat the finished product as a perishable food item. Either use it up quickly or store in the refrigerator and use within two weeks." Preservatives in lotion - Why You Must Use Them

I had not given this much consideration until reading about how serious this problem can be, especially for sick people. The amount to add to the mixture seems to run in the 1% range.

Probably a good idea to start a new thread for this, I'll have some pictures in a few days and can start one, unless there is a better way. Too bad that the poppy guy didn't get a chance to defend himself, I am curious what he is doing, sounds like making some sort of crude heroin or morphine. Hope he learns about that stuff early enough to avoid falling into the pit. Thanks for being such a nice group, people enjoy hanging out where there are friendly folks.

I put vitamin E oil in mine as a preservative, but have found out that it is actually an antioxidant that helps to prolong the shelf life of it if exposed to oxygen...not an actual preservative. I don't sell any of the products I have or intend to have any time soon.

Good information there, and I had planned on looking into preservatives soon.

As long as it has to do with adding and creating products from Cannabis oil, it's fine here...I would think.

 

[panacea]

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Awesome, awesome. Those guys are my heroes. I don't think it is out for the public yet, but they have a strain called "CBD Therapy". Unless, Jaime & the guys over there suggest something different, that's what I would go with.
I know they love to pull out new stuff in Spain. They might have something brand new as well.

I also have the "CBD Therapy" on my next order, see CBD crew selling it in feminized seed for $17-18 Canadian. Showing 0.5% THC ..8-10% CBD. I will grab a few to see what they are like. Like you , I always like CBD crews beans.

 

[panacea]

re: Cannabis Oil Users Cafe & Lounge

CBD crews "DIVINE" strain looks appealing also.

 

[Dennise]

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Circuit... stange fella sent me a pm during all that and said he had some recipe for turning the "flower" into a wonder medicine like CCO... He then rambled on about the incredible buzz from his miracle cure and some things that made absolutely no sense so I just deleted it and went on about my fun day.......

 

[Dennise]

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Well Canna I decided it might be best to post what happened today here cause it relates to the oil some and that way I can just put it in one place so it doesn't sound like I'm trying to do the poor pitiful me thing... Cause honest guys I'm not... It just is what it is and I know that... That however doesn't mean I have to like it... but here's what I got now... It seems everytime I go in the doctor I come out with something I didn't go in with so I did figure out a way to cure that... I ain't going back.. Now that I'm through pouting... When I got to the neurologist this morning he had gone of the contrast MRI and decided there was more than the MS scars on my brain... and most likely due from the attack and the coma, stroke , heart attack, renal falure and TTP did a number on me obviously but the long term from it is coming to fruition... Between the long term diabetes bout of DKA and the assault I now have vascular disease which is causing great fluxuations in my BP and pulse... My BP was 218/120 pulse 41... That was at the second doctors appointment but before we had our little talk... I wasn't upset yet.... I had tacked right before going to this appointment and told my doctor that I had and he thinks that is why my pulse is running this low because of the alpha blockers and beta blockers and the amount of the doses... So he cut the one that controls my pulse in half and added another BP pill to help reduce that #... So at first I kinda freaked then he calmed me down...{he's been my doc for a long time and knows me well.. he knows I'm a bit high strung...} and said this could be a good thing... In his eyes it means the oil is working... It is lowering my pulse so well that the BP is over compensating and he said this is going to be easy to control and ultimely and very good thing... I will admit... right now it doesn't feel like it so much.... He sent me home with a new stethascope and cuff... I've had mine since nursing school and it is a bit dry rotted... We argued for a bit about a couple of nights in that horrible stinky place to get it all under control but I finally convinced him there wasn't anything they could do there I couldn't do here and fella got home last night so I'm not here alone and he finally gave in after doing an EKG... I'm commited to seeing this through and pushing the oil to at least stabilize the BP thing.... the actual vascular disease... I guess I need to hit the books again... If you guys have had any experience or patients with that one please let me know.... I can't tell ya how much all of the concern means... Thank you....

 

[CCOiler]

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Your a tuff lady Dennise

 

[CCOiler]

re: Cannabis Oil Users Cafe & Lounge

Hey folks

OK I need some help! My mom who has already survived cancer twice and has MS, has recently found out she now has early onset Alzheimer's, I'm wanting to find out the best oil for her and dosing etc the Alzheimer's is the one wee want to target if poss! I have no clue but can get hold of any ratio oil etc from Spannabis. So I need to know what's best indica etc, CBD ratio to THC and dosing, combined with best delivery method into her system to target the Alzheimer's.
Many thanks in advance people, I'm clueless!

Welcome Light Addict, it's a honor to have you come to this journal so you and the great "Oilseeds" here can help your mom with her Alzheimer's. Since you know most of the "Oilheads" here, it will be easy for you. Looking forward to helping mom & turning you into a "Oilseed"

Sorry about the little side show this morning, it's the first time that has happened (except for Cajun & Johnny)

 

[Light Addict]

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Dennise my dear, your gonna be fine, I'm quite sure, your indomitable spirit and commitment within yourself to overcome using a method YOU truly believe in, will surely shine through in the end!

RSOiler I've known your 60cal for an age my friend

This certainly seems a little better in here today and can't thank you all enough for all your help!

 

[Lady Cannafan]

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Well Canna I decided it might be best to post what happened today here cause it relates to the oil some and that way I can just put it in one place so it doesn't sound like I'm trying to do the poor pitiful me thing... Cause honest guys I'm not... It just is what it is and I know that... That however doesn't mean I have to like it... but here's what I got now... It seems everytime I go in the doctor I come out with something I didn't go in with so I did figure out a way to cure that... I ain't going back.. Now that I'm through pouting... When I got to the neurologist this morning he had gone of the contrast MRI and decided there was more than the MS scars on my brain... and most likely due from the attack and the coma, stroke , heart attack, renal falure and TTP did a number on me obviously but the long term from it is coming to fruition... Between the long term diabetes bout of DKA and the assault I now have vascular disease which is causing great fluxuations in my BP and pulse... My BP was 218/120 pulse 41... That was at the second doctors appointment but before we had our little talk... I wasn't upset yet.... I had tacked right before going to this appointment and told my doctor that I had and he thinks that is why my pulse is running this low because of the alpha blockers and beta blockers and the amount of the doses... So he cut the one that controls my pulse in half and added another BP pill to help reduce that #... So at first I kinda freaked then he calmed me down...{he's been my doc for a long time and knows me well.. he knows I'm a bit high strung...} and said this could be a good thing... In his eyes it means the oil is working... It is lowering my pulse so well that the BP is over compensating and he said this is going to be easy to control and ultimely and very good thing... I will admit... right now it doesn't feel like it so much.... He sent me home with a new stethascope and cuff... I've had mine since nursing school and it is a bit dry rotted... We argued for a bit about a couple of nights in that horrible stinky place to get it all under control but I finally convinced him there wasn't anything they could do there I couldn't do here and fella got home last night so I'm not here alone and he finally gave in after doing an EKG... I'm commited to seeing this through and pushing the oil to at least stabilize the BP thing.... the actual vascular disease... I guess I need to hit the books again... If you guys have had any experience or patients with that one please let me know.... I can't tell ya how much all of the concern means... Thank you....

Geez, I'm sorry to read that the previous traumas caused issues to continue. That ....well that sucks.

At first I was afraid to read what the Doc told you about the oil and the BP, but after reading it I believe the Doc wants to think this is doing good for you. That's encouraging for sure.
Has he got you keeping a log of the results of your BP/pulse after tacking the oil, say 20 minutes or so after tacking to keep track of of it? Maybe a before and after kind of thing?
If I ever get my uncle using this, I think I would try that just to see the fluctuations to the good or bad.

On the vascular thing, I was just talking about this to RSOiler on whether the oil has been effective with circulatory or vascular problems. I have not researched that at all.
So anyone who knows anything on this, please post up your experience or materials so we can read through them. My Uncle has major vascular problems as well, so Dennise and I will both be reading with an interest. (and others I'm sure)

I'm so glad you got to go home Dennise, that was a helluva long day for you... and tell Fella to keep an eye on you!



Edit, the only thing I could find in the Medical Marijuana Scientific data section on site regarding vascular is the following thread which contains information on Cardiovascular etc. Maybe something in there will be useful for others:

Atherosclerosis

 

[VladimirPutin]

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This certainly seems a little better in here today and can't thank you all enough for all your help!

Oh yes, I remember yesterday

BTW, almost have all my kit to do some RSO, going to be a blast

Vlad

 

[Dave Groomer]

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Welcome Light Addict, it's a honor to have you come to this journal so you and the great "Oilseeds" here can help your mom with her Alzheimer's. Since you know most of the "Oilheads" here, it will be easy for you. Looking forward to helping mom & turning you into a "Oilseed"

Sorry about the little side show this morning, it's the first time that has happened (except for Cajun & Johnny)

Hey LA. You are in the right place and as you already know, I put a lot of stock in what Cajun has to say. The man has forgotten more then I know. We are all here for you and you mom!!!

 

[Dennise]

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Yes Canna my doctor has me logging my B/P - 20-25 minutes after dosing then I also checked it before so I could try and see how much difference there is... I find numbers never lie and it's much easier if I can work with a range vs just a final number.... It was a bit better this morning for sure and I will post up my before and after numbers for this morning as soon as I tack... I don't usually dose until after my morning coffee so I just finished my cuppa so it is about time to get this party started... I'll figure this out.... I thought about it all night and I think I agree with the doc... I think the oil is working and with all the heart and BP pills... it was just time to readjust because the oil is now doing part of the work... He did add pills but it was because I have to have the alpha but the beta blockers are now not needed as much blah blah blah but either way it is just another speed bump and no where near as big a deal as some have been... I read on here the stories of folks that are really dealng with things and mine seem rather trivial... It is what it is and a little education and preservation and I will figure this out too....

 

[Mighty Mouse]

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Don't forget to tell us the recipe for your "ROLL ON" bottles.

Recipe for roll on pain oil:

Arnica 30ML
Aloe Vera 30ML
Canna Oil 7ML
Vitamin E 1ML

Trying to keep it simple and effective.

 

[Lady Cannafan]

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Recipe for roll on pain oil:

Arnica 30ML
Aloe Vera 30ML
Canna Oil 7ML
Vitamin E 1ML

Trying to keep it simple and effective.

Is this Arnica to help with pain relief or more of a cooling effect? I read that it helps reduce bruising and swelling too.
Just curious what your own reason is in adding it.

Thanks for the recipe!

 

[Mighty Mouse]

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Is this Arnica to help with pain relief or more of a cooling effect? I read that it helps reduce bruising and swelling too.
Just curious what your own reason is in adding it.

Thanks for the recipe!

I add the Arnica mainly for the pain relief, however yesterday I had a patch of skin or "hot spot" on my back side that was burning and itching so I used the pain oil on it. Today it is almost gone and not bothering me at all.

 

[CCOiler]

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I add the Arnica mainly for the pain relief, however yesterday I had a patch of skin or "hot spot" on my back side that was burning and itching so I used the pain oil on it. Today it is almost gone and not bothering me at all.

This is Awesome Mighty Mouse, Thank you.

 

[Curly Beaver]

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Recipe for roll on pain oil:

Arnica 30ML
Aloe Vera 30ML
Canna Oil 7ML
Vitamin E 1ML

Trying to keep it simple and effective.

Thanks MM.
I'll have to see about the Arnica, is there anything else that would work in it's place? Is that a gel, liquid, cream?

Edit: Sorry, I didn't see the posts after yours...

 

[Mighty Mouse]

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People I know in the essential oil business swear by the Arnica. That is why I tried it. It is a bit spendy but a little goes a long way.