re: Cannabis Oil Users Cafe & Lounge
Sue,
Please keep in mind this is just MY opinion in regards to how I feel about using this in my own case, based on what has been provided and what I've read the last couple of days.
The part that I'm struggling with the most here is what
cannot be purged from the oil or during the distilling process. The purposeful addition of contaminants/poison (yes, Radogast was absolutely correct on that) that might not boil out of the process, as it states below "hard to separate toxic substances" scares me. This suggests
to me they added it in such a way that the home user or distiller cannot remove it with standard methods.
I, personally, don't want to take a chance. I know there are people who use it, and testimonies of that, but the more I see and read...the more I don't feel I can do this without worrying what long term effect it's going to have on me or someone I love, especially for the diabetics out there.
I've suffered many long term effects from pharma medications due to the unavailability of proper information to the public, as well as the big pharma only listing the side effects they deemed worth mentioning or was required by law. I have red flags here waving at me wildly, which I didn't have on the meds.
I'm trying to
fix things in my body, not add more issues that may show up later. Sure, it may cure what I'm using it for right now, but at what expense of something new developing later due to the slow build up of toxins and contaminants? I have found nothing that can answer that with absolutes that it
won't happen, if the documentation is out there... someone please show it to us.
I've gone back and forth like a ping pong ball with this the last couple of days, as you well know, but in the end.... It is just too questionable, so I'm going to stay on the side of caution and safety for me and my loved ones.
I'm not going to attempt to tell anyone else this is absolutely a "Don't do", they need to read up and do their due diligence to make their own decisions.
Thanks John.
If we're doing Alcohol 101, might as well start with what the basic differences are in Alcohol. LOL
What is the difference between alcohol, Ethanol, denatured alcohol, rubbing alcohol, methanol and isopropyl alcohol?
Good question – What is the difference between alcohol, Ethanol, denatured alcohol, rubbing alcohol, methanol and isopropyl alcohol? | BrainStuff
And a Denatured Alcohol information sheet from a chemical company stating toxicity:
DENATURED ALCOHOL (TOXIC) | CAMEO Chemicals | NOAA
One line from the above link:
General Description
A clear colorless liquid with a characteristic odor. Consists of ethanol deliberately rendered toxic by the addition of hard-to-separate toxic substances. Less dense than water. Vapors heavier than air. Used as a fuel, solvent, antifreeze, and to make other chemicals.
Another little Tidbit I found in regards to using it in bath items:
By Anne Marie Helmenstine, Ph.D.
Updated December 04, 2014.
I've been asked that question often, so here's the answer: Denatured alcohol is ethanol (ethyl alcohol) that has been made unfit for human consumption by adding another chemical to it. Denaturing refers to removing a property from the alcohol (being able to drink it), not to chemically altering or decomposing it.
There are hundreds of ways ethanol is denatured. Denatured alcohol that is intended for use as a fuel or solvent typically contains 5% or more methanol.
Methanol is flammable and has a boiling point close to that of ethanol. Denatured alcohol for use in cosmetics often contains water and a bittering agent (Bitrex or Aversion which are denatonium benzoate or denatonium saccharide), but other chemicals are sometimes used. Other common additives include (but are not limited to) isopropanol, methyl ethyl Methanol is absorbed across the skin and is highly toxic, so when I recommend people not use denatured alcohol for making perfume or bath products, my reason is that you usually don't know what has been added to the ethanol. ketone, methyl isobutyl ketone, pyridine, benzene, diethyl phthalate, and naphtha.
I also have this new book about cremes and spa items, I will be looking through that this morning to see if the author quotes anything about that subject for making the oil/topicals. I'll post anything I find significant.
Right now everything I'm doing is with the oil made with Everclear.
The government did do this on purpose and I personally would rather try and improve the proof of my solvent vs using one that I have any question that might be harmful... That just simply defeats the purpose of all of this....
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