Cannabis Oil Users Cafe & Lounge

[CajunCelt]

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But Pan this is the problem... None of the above mentioned are doctors or medical professionals in anyway... some of the listed have used the oil for their own treatment and some have even helped others going on the oil... but some are diagnosing and prescribing what they "think" would be appropriate for others treatment... We cannot do that... it is illeagal and immoral.. I am a registered RN and I in no way am qualified to give someone some of the information the way I have seen it presented here... Again not only is it immoral and unprofessional... it is illegal... All we can do here folks is help people find the information we have gathered and point them in the right direction... they have to make up their own minds on how to proceed... if asked for an "opinion" that is one thing... to give medical advice as though you are a trained professional is simply wrong.... I hope you all have a blessed green day....

I've been using the oven bags for a couple weeks now. When you're done decarbing turn the oven off, pop the door open and let it cool like that before you remove from the oven. It gives you a few more minutes decarb time but it also lets the vapors settle before you open the bag.

I was amazed that I no longer have to worry about the odor caused by decarbing. My kitchen butts up against my neighbor's bedroom. That cannabis can get pretty fragrant when you cook it.

Throw the entire bag in the freezer for 1 hour after you decarb in the oven. It will help retain more terpenes & flavonoids.

 

[panacea]

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[Curly Beaver]

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Throw the entire bag in the freezer for 1 hour after you decarb in the oven. It will help retain more terpenes & flavonoids.

I like it!

 

[Lady Cannafan]

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Cajun, in your case it's different than the majority here. In your absence, we certainly want to do all we can to provide information for people. You are getting busier, you will have less time than before to give your insights and knowledge here. Too bad we can't all travel around with you for awhile.

Your treatment thread is different, you are helping with actual protocols, so it really didn't apply here. We are simply a support group.

Some of us are caregivers, and some may not be licensed. I consider myself to be somewhat of a professional caregiver simply because of the number of years and patients I've had to be one for unrelated to treatment with Medical Marijuana or CCO. But I am not licensed in any other way except to grow and provide MJ for the patients in my state. That is very limited in the word "Caregiver" compared to what I'm experienced with. I would certainly not be qualified to give actual advice or protocols on MJ.

The disclaimer is for this thread to be sure that people coming to seek answers know that we are not doctors or medical professionals. I wanted it completely understood and others agree.

The points were made that we do not know for a fact what a persons' actual medical condition is, what meds they are on and what the medical history is. We only know what they tell us, no physical exam and no medical history can be accessed. To give actual medical advice to someone when those things are unknown, would be irresponsible. I'm not saying anyone has as yet, but we certainly want to avoid that for future members here. I had no person in mind when the disclaimer was made, I want you to know that. I only had the intention of making sure it was understood upfront.

We can only supply what research shows us, our personal experiences and let them go from there with their own decisions.

I'm sure the concern is valid that we let members know we are a support group, not medical professionals, so there are absolutely no misinterpretations.

BTW, Hope you are doing well.

 

[Lady Cannafan]

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Oh Cajun....BTW....

In your back up of professionals, there wouldn't possibly be one or two that would care to join up the forces here would there?

Just a thought, it would be a great asset to have several of the Pro Caregivers here.

 

[94xjjohn]

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Throw the entire bag in the freezer for 1 hour after you decarb in the oven. It will help retain more terpenes & flavonoids.

But don't forget it in there. Tim was very strong on not freezing the oil....ever!

I never understood why you could freeze the buds but not the oil. I waited too long to think to ask him.

Anyone else know why?

Ps. After the freezer, you probably won't be able to get the oil into a syringe because it will get much thicker!

 

[CajunCelt]

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You're not freezing the oil if you're decarb'ing in the oven. You're freezing the buds in the oven bag.

You only freeze buds for winterizing, so there's no need to freeze the oil.
Tim & I were taught that by Buddy @ Skunk Pharms.

 

[Lady Cannafan]

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But don't forget it in there. Tim was very strong on not freezing the oil....ever!

I never understood why you could freeze the buds but not the oil. I waited too long to think to ask him.

Anyone else know why?

Ps. After the freezer, you probably won't be able to get the oil into a syringe because it will get much thicker!

Sure does. I had some frozen that I found a few months after I "hid" it in my freezer. I had to use grape seed oil to thin it out.

I have no idea what it does to the goodies in the oil after freezing though....

 

[94xjjohn]

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Thanks Cajun, that makes more sense.

 

[CajunCelt]

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...Too bad we can't all travel around with you for awhile.

You can. And, whatever I learn/experience will be shared here.

Some of us are caregivers, and some may not be licensed. I consider myself to be somewhat of a professional caregiver simply because of the number of years and patients I've had to be one for unrelated to treatment with Medical Marijuana or CCO. But I am not licensed in any other way except to grow and provide MJ for the patients in my state. That is very limited in the word "Caregiver" compared to what I'm experienced with. I would certainly not be qualified to give actual advice or protocols on MJ.

I consider many here to be "pro" caregivers too. Lol censed or not.

The disclaimer is for this thread to be sure that people coming to seek answers know that we are not doctors or medical professionals. I wanted it completely understood and others agree.

It's a great disclaimer and needed. Good on ya gal!
That said, I'm addressing the specific comments about advice that were posted... not the disclaimer.

BTW, Hope you are doing well.

I am holding up. Lots of traveling right now. I'm home right now, but only until Thursday.

Oh Cajun....BTW....

In your back up of professionals, there wouldn't possibly be one or two that would care to join up the forces here would there?

Just a thought, it would be a great asset to have several of the Pro Caregivers here.

You got me. That's it. Sorry.
Frankly, the real pros around me wouldn't stick around for several reasons.
Mainly, I made a conscious decision to stay on 420. The difficulty of it is that social media is the #1 reason people in my field are fired. If I were to divulge too much (as I usually do), I would lose...alot.
I wouldn't ask someone else I respect to shed their vail & risk their livelyhood.
I do it because my closest friends are here. And my relationships here were formed WAY before I got this cute lil red badge.
I try to not be "its my way or the highway" as much as possible, but that wouldn't work for the folks around me either.
My "investment" here on 420 & what I risk every time I post, is why I wanted to address the previous comments. Having a medical license means jack shit frankly when it comes to cannabis. Don't believe it?
Ask your doctor if Vit C, melatonin, apignen can be taken together. Even better, ask the doc what the synergistic effects are from all 3. Remembering that you haven't even brought cannabis/cannabinoids & the ECS into the equation yet.
You might get a kick out of the cow-chewing- cud look on the good licensed doctor's face.

Real quick, licensed caregivers in Colorado at least are no different than say plastic surgeons. Some are in it to change lives, some for the money.
It is YOUR responsibility as an adult to find the right people. If you don't, you've no one to blame but yourself. There are MANY organizations in this field that do this to save/help lives.

 

[CajunCelt]

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Thanks Cajun, that makes more sense.

How you holding up over there? We haven't had a chance to talk in a long while.
I think of you alot when I'm down south on our outdoor grows.

 

[CajunCelt]

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Sure does. I had some frozen that I found a few months after I "hid" it in my freezer. I had to use grape seed oil to thin it out.

I have no idea what it does to the goodies in the oil after freezing though....

Freezing the oil adds moisture & can invite bacteria to come play. It's obviously different with unprocessed flowers.

 

[Lady Cannafan]

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Freezing the oil adds moisture & can invite bacteria to come play. It's obviously different with unprocessed flowers.

That's certainly good to know. I've always wondered about that.

 

[Lady Cannafan]

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You got me. That's it. Sorry.
Frankly, the real pros around me wouldn't stick around for several reasons.
Mainly, I made a conscious decision to stay on 420. The difficulty of it is that social media is the #1 reason people in my field are fired. If I were to divulge too much (as I usually do), I would lose...alot.
I wouldn't ask someone else I respect to shed their vail & risk their livelyhood.
I do it because my closest friends are here. And my relationships here were formed WAY before I got this cute lil red badge.
I try to not be "its my way or the highway" as much as possible, but that wouldn't work for the folks around me either.
My "investment" here on 420 & what I risk every time I post, is why I wanted to address the previous comments.

Real quick, licensed caregivers in Colorado at least are no different than say plastic surgeons. Some are in it to change lives, some for the money.
It is YOUR responsibility as an adult to find the right people. If you don't, you've no one to blame but yourself. There are MANY organizations in this field that do this to save/help lives.

You have no idea how many people have asked me to be a caregiver for MJ, and told me horror stories of their previous caregivers.
It's as you said, they are in it for the money. I would have an awful time trying to charge someone to help them when they clearly need it. I would not make a good "You can make quick easy money" spokesperson. LOL
The idea that a caregiver is supposed to grow strains for you that help your medical conditions seems to be unheard of around my area among all of the other things that go along with "Caring" about the patient. They get what the grower has available, and usually it's stuff they can't make street money on.

I know of only a handful that truly care about the patients' needs.

It's a jungle out there and not nearly enough of us honest caring blokes to go around.

/rant

 

[CajunCelt]

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That's certainly good to know. I've always wondered about that.

Just ask...
Lol.

 

[94xjjohn]

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I'm good Cajun. Just getting over a bad lower backache that has lasted too long. Cardiac rehab is going great...bulking up for the ladies!
Dealing with so many needy folks (oil) is very time consuming but extremely satisfying. I'm almost half way through last summers crop and hate to think of starting that all over again. I couldn't do as much as I wanted last year...maybe I'll be stronger this year. We will see!
Hope all is hunky-dory with you, brother. Peace.

 

[Dennise]

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Happy to see you about Cajun... Hope things are working out wonderfully for you and that you are having a truly blessed and green day.... and BTW I agree with everything you said... You are the voice of experience on these threads now Sir... You carry the torch........

 

[panacea]

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I'm good Cajun. Just getting over a bad lower backache that has lasted too long. Cardiac rehab is going great...bulking up for the ladies!
Dealing with so many needy folks (oil) is very time consuming but extremely satisfying. I'm almost half way through last summers crop and hate to think of starting that all over again. I couldn't do as much as I wanted last year...maybe I'll be stronger this year. We will see!
Hope all is hunky-dory with you, brother. Peace.

Wow growing outdoors in the Emerald triangle must be a trip johnny boy..i envy you. You sure must grow pounds of medicine bud.

 

[Radogast]

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I have a few questions/comments.
First, who specifically is giving advice that all these posts are pointing to?
Second, I AM a licensed/legal caregiver. I also have a team of licensed medical professionals backing me up. No, I'm NOT a licensed medical practitioner (doctor) thank God.
I've been on several panels now that had both doctors & homeopathic clinicians (of which I am one).
Guess who had the largest body of medical/scientific knowledge when it came to MMJ & using it as a treatment for humans...It wasn't the doctors.
I can calculate the acknowledged correct dosing method & amount based on a specific person's weight, condition, ect. per moles and in the plasma. Find me a licensed conventional "doctor" that can as well.
Homeopathic clinicians are light years ahead of doctors in regards to this information.

This is a reason that Arizona Medica Marijuana law permits licensed homeopaths to make Medical Marijuana recommendations

 

[CajunCelt]

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Happy to see you about Cajun... Hope things are working out wonderfully for you and that you are having a truly blessed and green day.... and BTW I agree with everything you said... You are the voice of experience on these threads now Sir... You carry the torch........

High Ranger Ma. I'm a lil wore out, but I'll be asleep for good soon enough I guess.
WE all carry the torch. I fall way short in many many ways.

This is a reason that Arizona Medica Marijuana law permits licensed homeopaths to make Medical Marijuana recommendations

Yep. Most of the legalized states are recognizing HC's specifically due to cannabis.