CA215 Indoor #3

[CA215]

I will post this at the top to save everyone following along on the deficiencies, and will respond to quotes below.

Okay after some deliberation I did some experimenting yesterday on a haze, 2 gallon quick flush with a follow up gallon full dose AN sensi watering at 6.4 ph on the dot.. This morning the leaves feel like they have some vigor, the nugs which were fading out from fan leaf tips are now looking greener and alive again, they have a sparkle, smell like buds (and not a dying plant)..

Here is where I stand on where I think the pooch was screwed I think my whole feed low was working very very well in the beginning letting the plants use the nutrients in the soil and the small doses I was giving them, only now to be caught in a situation where these girls are starving and are pulling the nutrients from the leaves to soon try and stay alive (I AM TOTALLY MISSING THE FACT THAT THE HAZES ARE IN 5 GALLON POTS STILL). The 5 gallon hazes should be getting fed full dose if not higher than 4ml a liter. No wonder the hazes still look so good they have a good 4 galloons of nuted soil they can stretch into.

That doesn't take away from the fact that my PH pen was also reading .3-.4 points off of what it was intended to be doing...

So to put it easily this is what I THINK happened, constant low dose feedings depleted the root zone of its nutrients, and with my pHing always coming out at 6.0-6.3 was really always under 5.9! My soil is vf and ffof, so we are not running close to organic soil so I should still be pHing although some of my feedings were organic I let those slide without pHing. Looking at KJCs chart, If I was at 6.0 pH constantly and under that would have been no bueno, and we would have seen issues with P K CA AND MAG!!!!!!! These are these deficiencies I was seeing all mixed into one, this is why I was banging my head against the wall, this is why I want to start a fresh slab of plants. just cant believe this didn't dawn on me earlier.

I now understand the necessity for following the recommended doeses to the T, because if you do follow them to the T you will know what went wrong, you can count your steps back to find out where you "made that wrong turn". Steering away from the path for a little off road action is going to bring unwanted troubles that you may have not seen coming, can you say bumpy?!

I really do appreciate each one of you guys posting your thoughts on the issues I am having, you are the ones who keep the ideas flowing to which my brain keeps the wheels turning! The answer is out there somewhere and we should all be determined to find out what we are having issues with. I just cant thank you guys enough for the time you take out of your days to help others, if you see me around the forums attempting do the same, it's because I need to pay it forward!

I plan on letting the hazes run it out to see how they react to the nutes, if they look to want another feeding them will get it and we will push back flushing for them. The sages on the other hand will keep getting flushed, I am hoping with how green they are they will be able to push it to 3 weeks flushing.

I've been alright, and yes I harvested the autos. They were kind of pathetic but that's what I get for slacking off on em.

No journal for now. It could probably get simpler if I wanted, but I enjoy making teas and foliar sprays. I agree Dr Earth products are nice. I need to go and get a few things and mix up some more coco.

The sea minerals are Sea-90.

It happens, these issues I am having now are result of improper care, sad sight!
Thanks for that link HMG, that sea-90 looks like some very good stuff. In the description it sounds like a superman azomite

I know exactly how you feel about posting pics of sick plants. I always remind myself that I'm helping a lot more people by showing a grow with problems vs one where everything goes perfectly. Plus you never know karma may reward you. I've read a lot of info that says stressed plants will be more potent than healthy plants but with less yields

Your philosophy on soil is interesting. Pretty much everything I've read says the opposite lol. The say its safer to use a mix with no nutrients and follow the instructions on the bottle.

Think I read a comparison once that said growing organically is like cooking on a stove. You add ingredients by taste and feel. If the plant says it needs something you add it or amend your soil for next time. Whereas with chemical ferts your baking. You mix the ingredients up per instructions and once it's in the oven you better hope you measured correctly lol.

Personally as much as I hate to say it I do think a soil mix without nutrients and adding bottle nutrients is easier for beginners. That's not to say it's better though. There's something to be said about learning things the right way from the beginning. Looking back there's several things I would've done differently but all we can do is live and learn.

I think you'd love the pro mix with some amendments and your teas

Ditto on the ph pen. Sure wish I had a calibrate button vs screw. Do you pour the solution in a glass or just dip the pen right in the bottle?

In the future i really want a combo meter. Even tho I'm running soil I think reading ppm's would still be beneficial


And bro those girls are soooo bushy. It's insane! I'm gonna have to read back and find out how the hell you got it so uniform. I'm just bending and pruning mine. Getting a decently even canopy but nothing even close to what you've got going on.

I have many different views on the soils, super soil we only water and top dress, pre nuted soil we water for the first month and then begin low dose nutes, coco and probably that promix you could plant straight into as a soilless medium and water with a drip feed like a hydro system with it getting fed proper nutrients day in and day out, if I remember correctly fatty grows like this in coco. The only reason I think its better for a beginner grower to grow in a pre nuted soil would be for the grower to learn how to properly water and not drown the plant, and learn when to begin nute doses to keep the girls looking nice and healthy. Plus learning to RAISE THE NUTE LEVELS AND NOT BE AFRAID TO BURN THEM AHH Really kicking myself in the ass I didn't pick up the horti class this semester and I start on the 13th! I am going to give my hydro guy a ring and see if there is anyway to get me a nice order of fresh promix.. Although docs kit sounds mighty intriguing... I have spent over a grand on my cabinet so far and I think I should get to trying to use these up before hand LOL.

For the phing I will take a clean shot glass and fill it up with about a oz and a half and calibrate from there, with the pen being digital I really wonder how spot on it really is though, the twist dial you have may be closer to the actual pH.. I picked up a cheap 10-15 dollar HM meter from crapazon, it works perfect as all I needed it for at the time was checking my ppm from my tap which was like 330, after buying the ro filter we used it to check that also which took that 330ppm and cleaned it up to 0ppm. I changed the girls water up also mid grow from tap to the ro.

The girls are a bit bushy, my view was to keep the defol to a minimum because of the deficiencies I was having didn't want to bring more stress on them, plus I figured they would need all the nutes they could get and removing those fans would have just been taking nutrients away from her.. If these girls were healthy on day 21 I would have defoled and also around day 45 if needed.

The only think I did to get these is a single lst bend on the main stalk, and then top it. Let all that lower growth move upwards and by then the main top should be growing again and thus an even canopy!! that is if it works out as easy as mine did

plus it didn't hurt removing the 4 plants from the tent... I am now noticing I would have had no room at all if those cindys were fem as they were the biggest plants at the time!! Can you imagine another 4 more plants BIGGER than those already in the tent.. Would not have worked

I really think the hazes want some macronutes (molasses should be doing it?) and I think the sages are showing highlighter green nutrient burn.

you can tell they're really growing and want food by how the leaves are stretching for the sky.

I think you are definitely right on these girls being hungry b, I feel like a shitty parent who locks the refrigerator or snack cabinet..

I am thinking the highlighter green you are seeing is below the canopy, I did some lst to as an experiment to see what those lower small buds would do with some extra light, it seems they are plumping a little bit.. But I came to the conclusion that it would be better to leave tall the tops the way they are to continue to plump, as this is what we were shooting for with the scrog. As always, just experimenting with random stuff, I just love screwing my grows up LOL

Liking the praying leaves as I have heard them called, I say let her ride and fade those big leaves aren't getting smoked, I must say the soil I made has done me right. the sages look nice as well full plants, nice job CA

Thanks OG, and you are right we wont be smoking those, probably wont even use it on hash with those dead leaves.
I will have to go back through your current thread and review your mix, as time goes on I feel like I am wasting time not getting a super soil mix set in stone.. You guys with these SS's that work well are freakin killing it, that blue dot looks like some 55/1/8 I saw the other day around your neck of the woods. Truly some organic top shelf you have produced.

Bro your plants look a little deficient but thats not to say they won't make it to 10 weeks.

Your ca/mg will be good for you and its safe to use at every watering with ro. When I water say a 5 gallon pot I give each plant maybe a gallon each the first 1/2 gallon is straight ro nothing in it the second half gallon has your ca/mg as well as anything else your going to add.

Do you have a silica product?

As for the promix and added ingredients it will give you good results but if your buying promix you should just get a couple kits from doc. The results are ridiculous and I assure you ca215 that you would be completely stoked on it.

I still love tinkering with my own blends and stuff but the kit is the real deal.

You know what, I seemed to stray away from that, just had the girl smack me in the back of the head... We water first with plain water to move salts down the pot, follow up with nutes to fill the root zone back up with fresh goodies... dur ca dur

I do have a silica product on its way but it is the botanicare silica blast, will this do? or should I be looking at a different company?

With docs kit I take it most everything is included.. I have a difficult time searching for products everyone uses, you should know this responding to my messages. Definitely going to keep my eyes peeled for the promix.

deficient in nitrogen and burnt by cal/mag just like this plant. I would not give anymore micronutes and only feed something like molasses.

Thank

B.real. Your plants are a fraction of the size and he is only at week six. Im not saying he should blast them with ca/mg or anything but if they are going ten weeks they are going to need something. In vermifire since there is soo much coco in it you need to use ca/mg regularly especially with the go ca/mg stuff is pretty gentle. Molasses is good but only if your using it sparingly. less is more. Molasses is also a source of calcium and magnesium. Another thing that you should know is that gen organics ca/mg is actually derived partly from molasses.

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why would he add cal/mag when he has cal/mag burn? all the hazes want is npk

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Im not saying he should add anything b.real. Im just stating what I know from my grow. vf is heavy in coco if you don't use ca/mg you get lockout I know it happened to me. Molasses is carbs as well as ca/mg and other minerals such as iron, manganese, and a couple others.

The gen organics ca/mg is molasses let me get you a pic.

Honestly you can diagnose and say his are burnt. you and me are clearly not in agreement I say deficient.

Sorry ca215 just keep doing what you do brother.
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I won't even say anything more here.

My views are totally different and I will keep them to myself.

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Calcium and magnesium supplementation should be discontinued 3 weeks prior to harvest.

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Everyone's views are different guys! If they weren't we would have one strain of mj . Me, everyone has their own style of grow, grow media, nutes, and the lists go on and on. But if we all did the same thing would we have the diversity we have with this wonderful plant. CA as stated do what you are doing , and let's see some killer harvest shots of those girls .

Just keep it CA215 and all will be good, peace OG.

And sorry for not multi quoting that shot

True that OG, if it wasn't for these fine folk contemplating their ideas on the page I wouldn't have came to my conclusion, which damn near makes sense to me finally..

If my conclusion is off still and we still have some contemplating to do let me know LOL, although I think this was enough contemplating for a single grow

Happy Weednsday CA

Happy Weedenesday to you Cron, hope this fine day is filled with plenty of bud clouds

I am going to get pictures of the deficient plants that are going through their torture, I want to see if the nute doses I am giving them is viewable through the pictures I post. Til' then

 

[mrbubbles87]

I have many different views on the soils, super soil we only water and top dress, pre nuted soil we water for the first month and then begin low dose nutes, coco and probably that promix you could plant straight into as a soilless medium and water with a drip feed like a hydro system with it getting fed proper nutrients day in and day out, if I remember correctly fatty grows like this in coco. The only reason I think its better for a beginner grower to grow in a pre nuted soil would be for the grower to learn how to properly water and not drown the plant, and learn when to begin nute doses to keep the girls looking nice and healthy. Plus learning to RAISE THE NUTE LEVELS AND NOT BE AFRAID TO BURN THEM AHH Really kicking myself in the ass I didn't pick up the horti class this semester and I start on the 13th! I am going to give my hydro guy a ring and see if there is anyway to get me a nice order of fresh promix.. Although docs kit sounds mighty intriguing... I have spent over a grand on my cabinet so far and I think I should get to trying to use these up before hand LOL. For the phing I will take a clean shot glass and fill it up with about a oz and a half and calibrate from there, with the pen being digital I really wonder how spot on it really is though, the twist dial you have may be closer to the actual pH.. I picked up a cheap 10-15 dollar HM meter from crapazon, it works perfect as all I needed it for at the time was checking my ppm from my tap which was like 330, after buying the ro filter we used it to check that also which took that 330ppm and cleaned it up to 0ppm. I changed the girls water up also mid grow from tap to the ro. The girls are a bit bushy, my view was to keep the defol to a minimum because of the deficiencies I was having didn't want to bring more stress on them, plus I figured they would need all the nutes they could get and removing those fans would have just been taking nutrients away from her.. If these girls were healthy on day 21 I would have defoled and also around day 45 if needed. The only think I did to get these is a single lst bend on the main stalk, and then top it. Let all that lower growth move upwards and by then the main top should be growing again and thus an even canopy!! that is if it works out as easy as mine did plus it didn't hurt removing the 4 plants from the tent... I am now noticing I would have had no room at all if those cindys were fem as they were the biggest plants at the time!! Can you imagine another 4 more plants BIGGER than those already in the tent.. Would not have worked

I think your spot on with your diagnosis. It's exactly what happened with mine, a ph lockout combined with starvation.

And I know you have many different views that's why your so awesome! Lol

I would love to auto drip feed these. It would make my life so much easier. I have a tub, water pump, air pump, and drain tray. Would just need the hoses, timer, drip feeders, and your expertise and how to schedule the amount and timing of feedings

I also ph my pen in a shot glass. I was getting cocky for awhile going weeks without calibrating. The other nights it was off by 3 pts! Think it was just a temp glitch cuz it read fine an hour before that. Either way I'm convinced to calibrate my pen before every use lol.

I'm familiar with LST and topping but I've still never come close to yours. This is the best I've gotten so far by bending and topping...

Your def lucky the Cindy's were male. On the other hand I'm sure you would've found a way lol. Keep up the great work bro!

 

[CA215]

I think your spot on with your diagnosis. It's exactly what happened with mine, a ph lockout combined with starvation.

And I know you have many different views that's why your so awesome! Lol

I would love to auto drip feed these. It would make my life so much easier. I have a tub, water pump, air pump, and drain tray. Would just need the hoses, timer, drip feeders, and your expertise and how to schedule the amount and timing of feedings

I also ph my pen in a shot glass. I was getting cocky for awhile going weeks without calibrating. The other nights it was off by 3 pts! Think it was just a temp glitch cuz it read fine an hour before that. Either way I'm convinced to calibrate my pen before every use lol.

I'm familiar with LST and topping but I've still never come close to yours. This is the best I've gotten so far by bending and topping...

Your def lucky the Cindy's were male. On the other hand I'm sure you would've found a way lol. Keep up the great work bro!

Really going to try and push my girls next grow on the nutes.. With the reg ro water before a nute watering to make sure on pushing salts down the pot.. Maybe work in a flush every 4-5th watering. Sounds like it would help to avoid issues in the soil.. maybe with a few extra soil "buffers" added into the soil like some oyster shells and soft rock phosphate.

I didn't know the high brix kit was the price it is or else I would have switched over after the first grow. Definitely would have saved quite the amount of money and possibly could have had some killer results. Discussions through pm having me feel played by these nute companies *que sad music* lol..

Hahah dude we think similar.. I just recently raised the tray in the tent to accommodate a 18 gal rubber maid, I have a pump im contemplating using to pump the water up top to the girls for watering from a hose of some sort.. although drip feeds would work way better for you due to the scale of your op. I don't have experience with drip feed systems but they seem pretty simple.. The one thing im stressing is my pump is like 594 gph which might be sketchy! Fire hose the girls down or what lol..

I have seen a few people using those circular drip feeders which look awesome and fit in a 5 gal pot like a glove. Figure you have to get it all set up and run it to see how much water you are getting out of the drip locations to then diagnose how long and often they would need to run on or off.. Maybe even get it all set up and manually turn it on and off the first few waterings to see how its going.

Never really priced the hosing.. pvc is pretty cheap so I would say it wouldn't cost that much more to make the op a little less hectic.. would be something to look into

When testing your pH make sure your shot glass is clean and dry. I had to test the pen three times to make sure I was really reading it right. Out of solution now which is another thing to ADD TO THE LIST lol..

That girl you posted has some fine training, I would tie the branches to the sides of the pot though, stretching may take over the canopy, having the branches tied down will force the canopy to stay even like that, granted, the tops on the outer edges might be bigger and thicker also, that doesn't matter.. BIG BUDS!!

 

[mrbubbles87]

Really going to try and push my girls next grow on the nutes.. With the reg ro water before a nute watering to make sure on pushing salts down the pot.. Maybe work in a flush every 4-5th watering. Sounds like it would help to avoid issues in the soil.. maybe with a few extra soil "buffers" added into the soil like some oyster shells and soft rock phosphate. I didn't know the high brix kit was the price it is or else I would have switched over after the first grow. Definitely would have saved quite the amount of money and possibly could have had some killer results. Discussions through pm having me feel played by these nute companies *que sad music* lol.. Hahah dude we think similar.. I just recently raised the tray in the tent to accommodate a 18 gal rubber maid, I have a pump im contemplating using to pump the water up top to the girls for watering from a hose of some sort.. although drip feeds would work way better for you due to the scale of your op. I don't have experience with drip feed systems but they seem pretty simple.. The one thing im stressing is my pump is like 594 gph which might be sketchy! Fire hose the girls down or what lol.. I have seen a few people using those circular drip feeders which look awesome and fit in a 5 gal pot like a glove. Figure you have to get it all set up and run it to see how much water you are getting out of the drip locations to then diagnose how long and often they would need to run on or off.. Maybe even get it all set up and manually turn it on and off the first few waterings to see how its going. Never really priced the hosing.. pvc is pretty cheap so I would say it wouldn't cost that much more to make the op a little less hectic.. would be something to look into When testing your pH make sure your shot glass is clean and dry. I had to test the pen three times to make sure I was really reading it right. Out of solution now which is another thing to ADD TO THE LIST lol.. That girl you posted has some fine training, I would tie the branches to the sides of the pot though, stretching may take over the canopy, having the branches tied down will force the canopy to stay even like that, granted, the tops on the outer edges might be bigger and thicker also, that doesn't matter.. BIG BUDS!!

Were in the same boat there bro. In my situation I really got away from the basics. Mainly I didn't stick to a feed schedule. When I first started Sunday night was feed night and weds/thurs was water night. Lately it's just been every other watering as best as I can guess. Now I'm back to running a calendar with a set feed schedule.

I was going super light on my nutrients too and it only made matters worse. Now I'm going full strength on all my plants and haven't seen any burn yet (knock on wood). I also wasn't watering before feeding. What a waste right? I think I overwatered a ton of plants and wasted nutrients by giving them an entire gal of feed water vs 1/2 gal of water followed by a 1/2 gal of feed.

Talking about my soil with you reminded me that I'm basically running hydro so when I go long periods without feeding my plants they have nothing left to eat. When I look back I can see this happened when I went from miracle grow to pro mix. The miracle grow had at least some food. Going forward I will feed my plants every week with a watering mid week.


I started looking at drip systems again online right after your post lol. I found a 30 plant system for $30. It's designed for a garden hose so all you do is get an adaptor for the water pump and your set with everything else you need. There's even smaller systems as low as $10. I'm seriously considering this for my 2x4' table but I'm concerned about overwatering and overfeeding. I'm also concerned about my nutrients plugging the system. Not to mention potentially taking an already complicate setup and making it even more.

I've ran automated in the past on an ebb n flow table but that was net baskets with hydroton. This would be 1gal/2L containers with 100% ProMix. Right now they get about 2 cups of water every 3 days each. I might just run it manually to lessen the work load. Especially because I could use the reservoir to water my larger plants as well. We'll see what I decide lol.


I've really gotten away from LST lately. Mainly because it's such a PITA adjusting strings in so many different plants. I've been growing more of a bonsai shape. I have basically been able to eliminate pruning, topping, and LST'ng with bending/pinching instead. I'm able to get a pretty uniform top but the canopy ends up being higher up and probably with less tops. I may get back to doing a few comparisons with LST vs bending. I really want to do a tomato cage with porta SCROG on top.

Thanks for all the help! Can't wait to see you chop these girls

 

[skunkpilot]

FWIW... I found the jump to hydro easy. As far as the watering times, I think the plant will get used to your schedule and it also depends on your medium. The amount of time I spent building the damn thing... I could have bought 2 - 8 plant systems.

 

[RainStacks]

HI CA, I hope that all is well with you. That is some very scientific analysis you provided!

@ MRbubbles, you may be interested in fluxing, I have not tried it myself, but from what I have read/seen it creates even tops with minimal PITA.

 

[CronicHempHog]

Happy Thurweed day CA

 

[Mono]

Not sure how much use you will find this - I have found that when using off the shelve nutes it works to go heavy, super heavy. So hit them from day 1 at full strength, keep hitting them so long as there is no lock out. Completely cut out N for the final four weeks, keep hitting them heavy with P and K right up to the final two weeks. Then Flush, Flush, Flush, again, heavily

At harvest, if the plants have slight nute burn on their leave tips you know you have gone as heavy as possible without stunting them in any way.

Deficient plants suck, then again, so do plants that are way over fed!

Looks like you are doing the right things here CA, harvest will still be of top shelve quality

 

[TG40]

SO, it has begun! Damn near positive that I am starting flushing a week early but as I've said, don't think those hazes are going to make it to 10 weeks. Will update in a weeks time

I've read some threads where people flushed for the last month, started to flush too early, but as it turned out the month without nutes made them finish healthier. I suck at diagnosing plant problems, but I will say this, I had a plant last year that 80% of the leaves yellowed and then fell off in the last month. I just kept it until trichomes were mostly cloudy, some amber. Even though most of the leaves were gone the bud ripened and it was some good weed. Your plants are beautiful bro. I would let them go until you can harvest them at the stage that you originally intended. I'm deffinately no expert, but I really don't think waiting another week to finish properly is going to hurt, who cares if you lose some leaves, as long as the bud is good. Just my 2 cents.

 

[CronicHempHog]

Happy skunkday CA

 

[CA215]

Dropping in to let those who are following along, today is day 49 flower, 7 weeks 12/12 which I will try my best at getting at least one shot of each plant posted. The girls have been responding quite well to the flushing process and are starting to plump insanely quick and pistils are starting to brown out curl. Transplanted the remaining seedlings to pots yesterday and they are ready to get going! I am contemplating pulling my favorite plant from the group and reverting back to veg for possibly an early start for this QUICK upcoming outdoor season (which with issues the season may not happen for CA this year? It better..). I have started school and with 18~ credits it is going to get a little slow around my thread Hope the best for everyone, keep up the diligence

 

[CA215]

BTW, I have picked up a large bale of promixHP and am going to start contemplating a super soil for the outdoor season

 

[CronicHempHog]

waiting for those pics
Happy Tokerday CA

 

[Mono]

Looking forward to a picture update CA! Hope those SAGES are treating you well.

 

[Backpackin420]

Looking forward to the pic's as well. Have a good humpday

 

[mrbubbles87]

Looking forward to your next update. Think your gonna like my porta scrogs Your gonna love pro mix. Good luck with school bro!

 

[CronicHempHog]

ok what happened to those pics CA? just curious
Happy Weednsday

 

[TG40]

I was looking back at the pictures from a couple weeks ago of the haze plants, they look EXACTLY like my WW that is giving me trouble, the weird hooking leaves. Yellowing of leaves, did you ever get them looking any better? Its a trip but they have the exact same problem what ever it is. I phd to 6.5 yesterday, Im noticing a lot of gnats again, going to get my Azamax out for the next watering!!!!

The Sages are beautiful. They look like you poured sugar on them.

 

[CA215]

waiting for those pics
Happy Tokerday CA

Happy Thurganjamadnessbigjointmixedwithhashday Chronic Hope all is well in your garden

Looking forward to a picture update CA! Hope those SAGES are treating you well.

Hope this update is okay, I was late to my first class trying to upload haha. So, before I am late to my next class, I must rush Hope the pictures I chose are actually viewable and not fuzzy and rushed looking! Stay well Mono, hope that new little stealth chamber is working well for you!!

Looking forward to the pic's as well. Have a good humpday

Backpackin how it goes in your garden of eden? Happy Thurganjamadnessbigjointmixedwithhashday to you brotha

Looking forward to your next update. Think your gonna like my porta scrogs Your gonna love pro mix. Good luck with school bro!

They look perfect mrbub! Just watch the overlapping that was my main concern when watering my girls, it will all work out
A lot of credits we will see how it goes, taking the dreaded speech class and history at nighty yeehaw... I have been doing a little research on the promix being amended and what not.. don't know if I will go this route, or just plant and grow promix as is with added nutrients.
Time will tell as always! Stay warm bub!!!

ok what happened to those pics CA? just curious
Happy Weednsday

A little busy with starting school again, after this week I should have my routine down to the T and will be able to squeeze in my 420mag time Again... Happy Thurganjamadnessbigjointmixedwithhashday!!!!

I was looking back at the pictures from a couple weeks ago of the haze plants, they look EXACTLY like my WW that is giving me trouble, the weird hooking leaves. Yellowing of leaves, did you ever get them looking any better? Its a trip but they have the exact same problem what ever it is. I phd to 6.5 yesterday, Im noticing a lot of gnats again, going to get my Azamax out for the next watering!!!!

The Sages are beautiful. They look like you poured sugar on them.

I was seeing the same thing TG. Honestly, I think I was helping them at first but after the 2nd and 3rd attempt I think I was making it worse as I never really knew wtf was wrong, started to become a big headache.. I have gnats everywhere at the moment so.... Really, I haven't really placed any blame on the gnats, but, seeing how many are thriving in the tent right now.... I really think my issues could be due to some of these freaking gnats brotha... They have to be f**king up the root zone and causing some sort of trouble in the leaves.

Also, more blame is being put on my pH meter being .3-.4 points off, that didn't help me analyze what was going on.

I will not calibrate my ph pen every feeding just to be sure I know what is going in, to back track and find out went wrong.

Will be nice to see how the azamax works for you, I have not used it but have heard results are well

Okay Im going to be late!!! Let me try to click all these pictures!

Hazes hopefully.. will edit later if there are doubles

 

[CA215]

I will contine to flush everything with a gallon of water + ever 3 days~

Sages!! Looking and smelling absolutely DANK! I am happy with the purpling girl she will be the top shelf goodies for CA