CA215 Indoor #3

[HomeMedGrower]

Okay, here is my thoughts/opinion on the soil/nutrients, if were growing in a soil that doesn't contain all the right necessities, we have to get the nutes damn near spot on to get the girls what they need, otherwise we see deficiencies. Being growers just learning the ropes without any degrees/much knowledge on what we are dealing with, growing in a medium without nutrients might be tricky. Honestly, I have been wanting to start a grow with the simplest shit. A nice soil like ffof or vf, roots, something with nutes already established in the soil, and then try to grow with something like this: Dr. Earth Organic 5 Tomato, Vegetable & Herb Fertilizer. The ingredients look pretty similar to what we are looking for in a super soil. Basically I want to use a mix like this and attempt a grow, with other additives on hand for anything that might become troublesome (cal mag, etc), it is a 5-7-3 which looks to cover the bases of a flowering nutrient well, maybe not towards the end but with another organic supplement 0-#-# could finish her off.. so 30 bucks could possibly switch up your flowering schedule to some organics? Just my view on things buddy. Maybe that pre mix linked could even be used to set that pro mix up for a nice amendment?

CA, girls look good. I just used some of the Dr. Earth Veg on a few plants I put in a mix of coco, humus, azomite, dolimite, some srp, gypsum, and calcium carbonate. They seem to be doing well. I just moved them to 7 gallon smarties. I was thinking about maybe using the Dr Earth bud and bloom booster when I flip in a few weeks.

Also I have been using some microbe tea from t and j, or some worm teas with humus and sea weed along with some sea minerals.

 

[b.real]

dude, feed the hazes molasses, stop overfeeding the sages and call it a wrap. I wish I had an hid. plants look great.

 

[CronicHempHog]

looking sweet Happy Tokerday CA

 

[CA215]

CA, girls look good. I just used some of the Dr. Earth Veg on a few plants I put in a mix of coco, humus, azomite, dolimite, some srp, gypsum, and calcium carbonate. They seem to be doing well. I just moved them to 7 gallon smarties. I was thinking about maybe using the Dr Earth bud and bloom booster when I flip in a few weeks.

Also I have been using some microbe tea from t and j, or some worm teas with humus and sea weed along with some sea minerals.

How have you been HMG did you harvest your last girls? I would enjoy another journal from your neck of the woods sounds like you are growing along the simplicity I would like to achieve. That Dr Earth veg looks to have a bunch of good stuff in it, well, most of thr Dr earth stuff is badass to be honest. What are these sea minerals you mention?

dude, feed the hazes molasses, stop overfeeding the sages and call it a wrap. I wish I had an hid. plants look great.

The hazes get molasses every watering and have been since day 1 flower, The sages are probably the healthiest girls in the tent?
That tea I gave them was not the business. I am really leaning towards these girls locking out P, Cal, and Mag due to my pH being under 6.5 most of the time. These strains are 8 week minimums, so I guess we can start some flushing on the hazes although with as much yellowing on the hazes I really doubt they can make it to 10 weeks let alone 9.

So, hazes will begin a flush and the sages like wise, I would like to harvest all girls at once instead of a harvest haze one week and sage harvest the next.

looking sweet Happy Tokerday CA

Happy Thaistick Tuesday Cronic!

So breal, here is my issue with flushing right now, a lot of damn clear trichs, but they do seem to be nice and plump with some big ol stalks!

Looks like if I start flushing now I may be able to acquire some cloudy, may being the key word.

I just mixed up 2 1/2 gallons with 2 tbsp. molasses and a small dash of g.o ca ma. pH 6.0.

The flushing begins!

 

[CA215]

SO, it has begun! Damn near positive that I am starting flushing a week early but as I've said, don't think those hazes are going to make it to 10 weeks. Will update in a weeks time

 

[HomeMedGrower]

How have you been HMG did you harvest your last girls? I would enjoy another journal from your neck of the woods sounds like you are growing along the simplicity I would like to achieve. That Dr Earth veg looks to have a bunch of good stuff in it, well, most of thr Dr earth stuff is badass to be honest. What are these sea minerals you mention?

I've been alright, and yes I harvested the autos. They were kind of pathetic but that's what I get for slacking off on em.

No journal for now. It could probably get simpler if I wanted, but I enjoy making teas and foliar sprays. I agree Dr Earth products are nice. I need to go and get a few things and mix up some more coco.

The sea minerals are Sea-90.

 

[mrbubbles87]

Whatever those are right HA. I feel your pain brotha I was tempted to go mia and not upload the horrible looking hazes Okay, here is my thoughts/opinion on the soil/nutrients, if were growing in a soil that doesn't contain all the right necessities, we have to get the nutes damn near spot on to get the girls what they need, otherwise we see deficiencies. Being growers just learning the ropes without any degrees/much knowledge on what we are dealing with, growing in a medium without nutrients might be tricky. Honestly, I have been wanting to start a grow with the simplest shit. A nice soil like ffof or vf, roots, something with nutes already established in the soil, and then try to grow with something like this: Dr. Earth Organic 5 Tomato, Vegetable & Herb Fertilizer. The ingredients look pretty similar to what we are looking for in a super soil. Basically I want to use a mix like this and attempt a grow, with other additives on hand for anything that might become troublesome (cal mag, etc), it is a 5-7-3 which looks to cover the bases of a flowering nutrient well, maybe not towards the end but with another organic supplement 0-#-# could finish her off.. so 30 bucks could possibly switch up your flowering schedule to some organics? Just my view on things buddy. Maybe that pre mix linked could even be used to set that pro mix up for a nice amendment? I really am trying to stay away from any chemical ferts, can't say much on the ff as I don't use them anymore, I have some beastie blooms but that was one of those purchases that was done without much research and no prior knowledge with growing.. that beastie blooms is some crazy looking stuff that I don't really want to feed my plants. So I definitely believe that the ff nutrients might be a little sketchy towards the bacteria in the root zone. I would think the ff nutes would work best in a fox farm hf or ffof? I also only have the 7.0 solution. Same steps except the oakton ph2 I use has a calibrate button you press and it will ph itself back to 7.0.. from my understanding... HAH! Hopefully I am doing this right also! Okay just going to lay it on ya'll, deficient haze!!!! This one is officially named deficient haze #2 Cont below.

I know exactly how you feel about posting pics of sick plants. I always remind myself that I'm helping a lot more people by showing a grow with problems vs one where everything goes perfectly. Plus you never know karma may reward you. I've read a lot of info that says stressed plants will be more potent than healthy plants but with less yields

Your philosophy on soil is interesting. Pretty much everything I've read says the opposite lol. The say its safer to use a mix with no nutrients and follow the instructions on the bottle.

Think I read a comparison once that said growing organically is like cooking on a stove. You add ingredients by taste and feel. If the plant says it needs something you add it or amend your soil for next time. Whereas with chemical ferts your baking. You mix the ingredients up per instructions and once it's in the oven you better hope you measured correctly lol.

Personally as much as I hate to say it I do think a soil mix without nutrients and adding bottle nutrients is easier for beginners. That's not to say it's better though. There's something to be said about learning things the right way from the beginning. Looking back there's several things I would've done differently but all we can do is live and learn.

I think you'd love the pro mix with some amendments and your teas

Ditto on the ph pen. Sure wish I had a calibrate button vs screw. Do you pour the solution in a glass or just dip the pen right in the bottle?

In the future i really want a combo meter. Even tho I'm running soil I think reading ppm's would still be beneficial


And bro those girls are soooo bushy. It's insane! I'm gonna have to read back and find out how the hell you got it so uniform. I'm just bending and pruning mine. Getting a decently even canopy but nothing even close to what you've got going on.

 

[b.real]

I really think the hazes want some macronutes (molasses should be doing it?) and I think the sages are showing highlighter green nutrient burn.

you can tell they're really growing and want food by how the leaves are stretching for the sky.

 

[OG1969]

That's what I was thinking, the promix looks very mild. VF is definitely hot I am starting to see the beginning signs of curling edges on the lings fans that were transplanted. I think you will be glad to see we have since (per appreciated comments) switched up the calmag and picked up, gen. o!

Thanks for the reps buddy



Whatever those are right HA. I feel your pain brotha I was tempted to go mia and not upload the horrible looking hazes

Okay, here is my thoughts/opinion on the soil/nutrients, if were growing in a soil that doesn't contain all the right necessities, we have to get the nutes damn near spot on to get the girls what they need, otherwise we see deficiencies. Being growers just learning the ropes without any degrees/much knowledge on what we are dealing with, growing in a medium without nutrients might be tricky. Honestly, I have been wanting to start a grow with the simplest shit. A nice soil like ffof or vf, roots, something with nutes already established in the soil, and then try to grow with something like this: Dr. Earth Organic 5 Tomato, Vegetable & Herb Fertilizer. The ingredients look pretty similar to what we are looking for in a super soil. Basically I want to use a mix like this and attempt a grow, with other additives on hand for anything that might become troublesome (cal mag, etc), it is a 5-7-3 which looks to cover the bases of a flowering nutrient well, maybe not towards the end but with another organic supplement 0-#-# could finish her off.. so 30 bucks could possibly switch up your flowering schedule to some organics? Just my view on things buddy. Maybe that pre mix linked could even be used to set that pro mix up for a nice amendment?

I really am trying to stay away from any chemical ferts, can't say much on the ff as I don't use them anymore, I have some beastie blooms but that was one of those purchases that was done without much research and no prior knowledge with growing.. that beastie blooms is some crazy looking stuff that I don't really want to feed my plants. So I definitely believe that the ff nutrients might be a little sketchy towards the bacteria in the root zone.

I would think the ff nutes would work best in a fox farm hf or ffof?



I also only have the 7.0 solution. Same steps except the oakton ph2 I use has a calibrate button you press and it will ph itself back to 7.0.. from my understanding... HAH! Hopefully I am doing this right also!

Okay just going to lay it on ya'll, deficient haze!!!!

This one is officially named deficient haze #2

Cont below.

Liking the praying leaves as I have heard them called, I say let her ride and fade those big leaves aren't getting smoked, I must say the soil I made has done me right. the sages look nice as well full plants, nice job CA

 

[shottafire]

Bro your plants look a little deficient but thats not to say they won't make it to 10 weeks.

Your ca/mg will be good for you and its safe to use at every watering with ro. When I water say a 5 gallon pot I give each plant maybe a gallon each the first 1/2 gallon is straight ro nothing in it the second half gallon has your ca/mg as well as anything else your going to add.

Do you have a silica product?

As for the promix and added ingredients it will give you good results but if your buying promix you should just get a couple kits from doc. The results are ridiculous and I assure you ca215 that you would be completely stoked on it.

I still love tinkering with my own blends and stuff but the kit is the real deal.

 

[b.real]

Bro your plants look a little deficient but thats not to say they won't make it to 10 weeks.

Your ca/mg will be good for you and its safe to use at every watering with ro. When I water say a 5 gallon pot I give each plant maybe a gallon each the first 1/2 gallon is straight ro nothing in it the second half gallon has your ca/mg as well as anything else your going to add.

Do you have a silica product?

As for the promix and added ingredients it will give you good results but if your buying promix you should just get a couple kits from doc. The results are ridiculous and I assure you ca215 that you would be completely stoked on it.

I still love tinkering with my own blends and stuff but the kit is the real deal.

deficient in nitrogen and burnt by cal/mag just like this plant. I would not give anymore micronutes and only feed something like molasses.

 

[shottafire]

B.real. Your plants are a fraction of the size and he is only at week six. Im not saying he should blast them with ca/mg or anything but if they are going ten weeks they are going to need something. In vermifire since there is soo much coco in it you need to use ca/mg regularly especially with the go ca/mg stuff is pretty gentle. Molasses is good but only if your using it sparingly. less is more. Molasses is also a source of calcium and magnesium. Another thing that you should know is that gen organics ca/mg is actually derived partly from molasses.

 

[b.real]

B.real. Your plants are a fraction of the size and he is only at week six. Im not saying he should blast them with ca/mg or anything but if they are going ten weeks they are going to need something. In vermifire since there is soo much coco in it you need to use ca/mg regularly especially with the go ca/mg stuff is pretty gentle. Molasses is good but only if your using it sparingly. less is more. Molasses is also a source of calcium and magnesium. Another thing that you should know is that gen organics ca/mg is actually derived partly from molasses.

why would he add cal/mag when he has cal/mag burn? all the hazes want is npk

 

[HomeMedGrower]

dude, feed the hazes molasses, stop overfeeding the sages and call it a wrap. I wish I had an hid. plants look great.

B.real. Your plants are a fraction of the size and he is only at week six. Im not saying he should blast them with ca/mg or anything but if they are going ten weeks they are going to need something. In vermifire since there is soo much coco in it you need to use ca/mg regularly especially with the go ca/mg stuff is pretty gentle. Molasses is good but only if your using it sparingly. less is more. Molasses is also a source of calcium and magnesium. Another thing that you should know is that gen organics ca/mg is actually derived partly from molasses.

why would he add cal/mag when he has cal/mag burn? all the hazes want is npk

 

[shottafire]

Im not saying he should add anything b.real. Im just stating what I know from my grow. vf is heavy in coco if you don't use ca/mg you get lockout I know it happened to me. Molasses is carbs as well as ca/mg and other minerals such as iron, manganese, and a couple others.

The gen organics ca/mg is molasses let me get you a pic.

Honestly you can diagnose and say his are burnt. you and me are clearly not in agreement I say deficient.

Sorry ca215 just keep doing what you do brother.
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[KingJohnC]

Calcium and magnesium supplementation should be discontinued 3 weeks prior to harvest.

 

[shottafire]

I won't even say anything more here.

My views are totally different and I will keep them to myself.

 

[OG1969]

I won't even say anything more here.

My views are totally different and I will keep them to myself.

Everyone's views are different guys! If they weren't we would have one strain of mj . Me, everyone has their own style of grow, grow media, nutes, and the lists go on and on. But if we all did the same thing would we have the diversity we have with this wonderful plant. CA as stated do what you are doing , and let's see some killer harvest shots of those girls .

Just keep it CA215 and all will be good, peace OG.

 

[OG1969]

And sorry for not multi quoting that shot

 

[CronicHempHog]

Happy Weednsday CA