Bluter's Happy Home For Hilarious Hempsters

[bluter]

here's your morning hempys 420

good colour and developing nicely.

they're gonna get one more half-strength feed today before i bump it. was a little concerned over the amount of stretch, but they've halted and are working on getting the second set of leaves going.

 

[bluter]

we are one week from dropping the seeds.
getting a quick feed. i let them go drier yesterday.

have to be careful as there isn't much to them and they can move around in the media.
kinda looks like the tap on a couple might have reached the res.

the majority are still working on it. hempy is a bit tough on seedlings until they hook up. then they take off. at this point a coco or hp type grower would have more developed plants.

keeping a watch for a nute bump. if the laggards were all the size of the two largest i'd go to 3/4 seedling strength. as is i stuck with half strength. this is their second feeding.


finally got around to re-organizing the veg space. and i added some wind on low.

hempy needs a little help to toughen the stalks. the nute i'm using has a little Si but most of my grows could probably have benefited from the addition of a little more. it's moot at this point in development, but the wind helps a touch.


it's crazy dry here. somehow the temps got away on me a bit as well.

i dialed my space heater back a little. i like it 20 - 24c with the light on. without the heater and light on the space sits at about 5 - 8c. i used to keep cans of beer cool in there. the whole living area is far more comfy when i have something going in the winter.

 

[InTheShed]

Whoa 19% is low for seedlings! Probably a bit higher in the cups what with evaporation from the res.

 

[bluter]

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[bluter]

Whoa 19% is low for seedlings! Probably a bit higher in the cups what with evaporation from the res.

i've grown as low as 8%. when it gets that low you have to dome them and add a little humidity. i've run an airstone in a cup under the dome to keep the rh up. i pretty much have to do that for clones as a given. it never gets above 35% ambient rh here.

edit : i let the seedlings tough it out mostly. it slows them a touch but actually helps later.

 

[VetSmoke85]

Off to a good start. Looking forward to this one. I finally started a couple in hempy after you inspired me to give it a go. So far going okay.

 

[bluter]

Off to a good start. Looking forward to this one. I finally started a couple in hempy after you inspired me to give it a go. So far going okay.

did you go from seed or run clones vet ?

 

[bluter]

here's some morning hempys 420

we are 9 days from germ. they have gotten two feeds at half seedling strength. last fed two days ago. they are dry as a bone today. going to 3/4 strength today.

they're gonna be so dry that the media will collapse when i feed and the seedlings will move in the cups. that's what i shoot for.

have been running 24/0 til now. yeah yeah i know. i hafta get my timers sorted still. it's a pain. and since they are autos i'm pushing them as i wanna see how quick i can do this.

 

[Azimuth]

Off to a good start. Looking forward to this one. I finally started a couple in hempy after you inspired me to give it a go. So far going okay.

I'm trying to get re-inspired. I've got a few hempys going and just feeding the same mix as I do my soil plants. I'm running an experiment with diy liquid organic nutes. Let's just say the hempys look "ok" but no where near as good as the soil ones.

I really, really want the experiment to be a success in the hempys, but so far they're not feeling the love like the others. Could be operator error. As much as I want to like the hempy style, there are aspects to it I don't like and that probably shows thru in my execution.

 

[bluter]

Let's just say the hempys look "ok" but no where near as good as the soil ones.

I really, really want the experiemnt to be a success in the hempys, but so far they're not feeling the love like the others. Could be operator error.

they don't take off til they hook up - enough root mass reaching to the res. they're a slower start, but they grow faster through veg, and flower the same rate as hp type or soil. all assuming photo. auto is a dice roll.

most folk forget that hempy is actually intended to be a micro grow style. it surprises folk since it produces as a macro.

my 5L buckets easily match or produce more than my 5gal/20L hp/soil did. my 2L buckets can almost touch what the 5L does with coaxing. i grow for canopy, so 2L or 5L it doesn't matter. the number of plants change, not the yield.

i only have 4 x 4 for flower space, so it would make no difference in yield even going back to hp/soil. inputs and grow time would change. mostly in veg.

hempy is similar to coco. feed often and hands off. any issues that arise come quick. any fixes happen just as fast. it shares that with dwc and rdwc.

As much as I want to like the hempy style, there are aspects to it I don't like and that probably shows thru in my execution.

hempy, coco, or any other passive self water hydro style will tie you closer to the grow. soil and even hp type have a bit of an advantage that way.

typically myself and most of the folk i know local try to keep indoor growing to winter. oddly, winter is the prime growing season. it's easier to control environment, and pests are naturally kept to a minimum.

plus you get to enjoy the summer sun without the pressure. our summers are short and hot. it's best to enjoy them and not worry about growing. growing here is for when it's cold and depressing outside. makes it sunny and happy inside.

 

[Azimuth]

they don't take off til they hook up - enough root mass reaching to the res. they're a slower start, but they grow faster through veg, and flower the same rate as hp type or soil. all assuming photo. auto is a dice roll.

most folk forget that hempy is actually intended to be a micro grow style. it surprises folk since it produces as a macro.

my 5L buckets easily match or produce more than my 5gal/20L hp/soil did. my 2L buckets can almost touch what the 5L does with coaxing. i grow for canopy, so 2L or 5L it doesn't matter. the number of plants change, not the yield.

i only have 4 x 4 for flower space, so it would make no difference in yield even going back to hp/soil. inputs and grow time would change. mostly in veg.

hempy is similar to coco. feed often and hands off. any issues that arise come quick. any fixes happen just as fast. it shares that with dwc and rdwc.





hempy, coco, or any other passive self water hydro style will tie you closer to the grow. soil and even hp type have a bit of an advantage that way.

typically myself and most of the folk i know local try to keep indoor growing to winter. oddly, winter is the prime growing season. it's easier to control environment, and pests are naturally kept to a minimum.

plus you get to enjoy the summer sun without the pressure. our summers are short and hot. it's best to enjoy them and not worry about growing. growing here is for when it's cold and depressing outside. makes it sunny and happy inside.

See, that's exactly the re-inspiration I need.

There are learning curves to any style and I'm still on the uphill side of mine. As I said, I really do want this to work as the benefits as you lay them out are substantial. Being able to use smaller pots is very attractive to me as is the rapid growth.

But, like my plants, I'm not feeling the hempy love yet. I know it's out there. Just need to keep plugging away I guess.

I will say that they did look very good when I started off with bottled nutes and pH'ing the water, but those are two of the things I don't like about hempy which is why I'm trying my homegrown nutes. I guess if that doesn't work and I really want to run hempy I can always revert to what works. (What a concept, huh?)

 

[bluter]

See, that's exactly the re-inspiration I need.

lol

There are learning curves to any style and I'm still on the uphill side of mine. As I said, I really do want this to work as the benefits as you lay them out are substantial. Being able to use smaller pots is very attractive to me as is the rapid growth.

there are advantages and disadvantages to every approach. i have changed my media / grow style several times over many years. you adapt to your conditions. some styles work better with some than others.

But, like my plants, I'm not feeling the hempy love yet. I know it's out there. Just need to keep plugging away I guess.

you'll find what works best for you. it doesn't have to be hempy. it's about doing what you enjoy. do that and perfect it for you. if you get bored, do something else.

 

[Azimuth]

lol

there are advantages and disadvantages to every approach. i have changed my media / grow style several times over many years. you adapt to your conditions. some styles work better with some than others.

you'll find what works best for you. it doesn't have to be hempy. it's about doing what you enjoy. do that and perfect it for you. if you get bored, do something else.

I'm going to try to keep the plants going until this late spring/early summer when I have access to what I think I want as my homegrown mix. Right now it's a hodge-podge of various things and not the ones I think will prove the most useful. That will be the best test of whether or not the two things can work together.

 

[bluter]

I'm going to try to keep the plants going until this late spring/early summer when I have access to what I think I want as my homegrown mix. Right now it's a hodge-podge of various things and not the ones I think will prove the most useful. That will be the best test of whter or not the two things can work together.

sounds good. hempy's adaptable. once you get the hang of it it's not so hard to manipulate variables a bit to your advantage. that's one thing it kinda has over active hydro or coco.

can kind of do the same thing in hp type too. the longest mothers we ever kept were in hp. 6ish yrs or so. i could do it in hempy too but it would be more work. would have to trim roots etc.

 

[Azimuth]

hp??

 

[bluter]

hp??

hp promix. it's the primary media in north america. essentially cdn.
in short, it's a peat based media suited to salt based bottle (hydro) nutes. it's mostly peat, inert (cooked) dirt, and perlite. in that order.

it's a straight up commercial version of what we used to diy build in the 70's - 80's to grow in. and it 's brilliant. if you wanna save a few bucks get sunshine #4 and add a bit more perlite. competing brand. both are now ubiquitous at any garden store in the spring. stock up.

 

[InTheShed]

can kind of do the same thing in hp type too. the longest mothers we ever kept were in hp. 6ish yrs or so. i could do it in hempy too but it would be more work. would have to trim roots etc.

My mothers are in 1 gallon pots of HP and need to be root-pruned every 6-8 months, though they are in the sun.

it's mostly peat, inert (cooked) dirt, and perlite. in that order.

No dirt or humus in HP. It's peat, perlite, limestone, wetting agent, and mycorrhizae.

PRO-MIX® HP® AGTIV® REACH™ (Mycorrhizae)

PRO-MIX® HP® AGTIV® REACH™ is ideal for growers needing high drainage, air porosity and low water retention. Enriched with mycorrhizae for enhanced plant growth.

www.pthorticulture.com

 

[bluter]

My mothers are in 1 gallon pots of HP and need to be root-pruned every 6-8 months, though they are in the sun.

essentially what i do under light

No dirt or humus in HP. It's peat, perlite, limestone, wetting agent, and mycorrhizae.

30 or so yrs ago it was also cooked (inert) top soil. it was part of the old school diy soil. the commercial brand has changed about a dozen times or so.

PRO-MIX® HP® AGTIV® REACH™ (Mycorrhizae)

PRO-MIX® HP® AGTIV® REACH™ is ideal for growers needing high drainage, air porosity and low water retention. Enriched with mycorrhizae for enhanced plant growth.

www.pthorticulture.com

the myco is relatively new as far as the different versions over the years. it's one of the newer things.

 

[VetSmoke85]

did you go from seed or run clones vet ?

From seed. Popped them straight in the perlite, no soaking or anything.

 

[InTheShed]

30 or so yrs ago it was also cooked (inert) top soil. it was part of the old school diy soil. the commercial brand has changed about a dozen times or so.
the myco is relatively new as far as the different versions over the years. it's one of the newer things.

Thanks for the history! Not sure if Azi will be looking at 30 year old bags though, and their latest ingredient list has been the same for at least 4 years now.