Blaze's Journey Into Fire Organics: LOS Mix, Bag Seed, 2016

[bobrown14]

Hey there Blaze... ladies are looking a lot better... the yellow one is fine she's fading ... part of the process specially with organic soil. Plants don't always stay picture perfect down the stretch. Yellow and purple leaves are always a good sign in my garden!

Take it easy with the Alfalfa Tea... its STRONG, you can burn roots & leaves with it. I use it at 1/2 of any other amendment or tea recipe. But it's a good one specially early flower and mid VEG, after say 2-3 weeks in flower I start making Malted Grain teas...

Malted Barley is really good (organic of course)

Another REALLY good one is Malted Corn (organic non-GMO) - (Triacontanol major contributor with corn)

The Third one I use is Malted Buckwheat - (organic)

1 ounce ground to a powder into 2-3 gallons of water and this can be watered in no need to aerate, but you can just only aerate for 24 hrs no longer. The malted grains have some sugar in them so aeration at room temps will eventually change over from aerobic to an-aerobic bacteria (alcohol) and once that change happens it's poison to plants like vinegar .....I don't aerate the malted grains much anymore.

Can get the malted grains online.. I got mine from Glutten Free Homebrew online... they have the Corn and Buckwheat as they are gluten free and you can get malted Barley at any homebrew shop locally or online too. I'm an organic wierdo so I bought the organic whole grains - sometimes there's an option to have the malted grain ground for you... don't do that since we are grinding to a fine powder anyway they only crack the hulls when grinding for beers and whatnot.

 

[Blazinjones]

Hey there Blaze... ladies are looking a lot better... the yellow one is fine she's fading ... part of the process specially with organic soil. Plants don't always stay picture perfect down the stretch. Yellow and purple leaves are always a good sign in my garden!

Take it easy with the Alfalfa Tea... its STRONG, you can burn roots & leaves with it. I use it at 1/2 of any other amendment or tea recipe. But it's a good one specially early flower and mid VEG, after say 2-3 weeks in flower I start making Malted Grain teas...

Malted Barley is really good (organic of course)

Another REALLY good one is Malted Corn (organic non-GMO) - (Triacontanol major contributor with corn)

The Third one I use is Malted Buckwheat - (organic)

1 ounce ground to a powder into 2-3 gallons of water and this can be watered in no need to aerate, but you can just only aerate for 24 hrs no longer. The malted grains have some sugar in them so aeration at room temps will eventually change over from aerobic to an-aerobic bacteria (alcohol) and once that change happens it's poison to plants like vinegar .....I don't aerate the malted grains much anymore.

Can get the malted grains online.. I got mine from Glutten Free Homebrew online... they have the Corn and Buckwheat as they are gluten free and you can get malted Barley at any homebrew shop locally or online too. I'm an organic wierdo so I bought the organic whole grains - sometimes there's an option to have the malted grain ground for you... don't do that since we are grinding to a fine powder anyway they only crack the hulls when grinding for beers and whatnot.

awesome bob yea im using a super diluted form of the alfalfa like only a cup to a cup ana half of the already aireated tea into a gallon of ro water then i use tht 2 water my girls. thanx for all the info on malted grains i have sum organic corn seeds but i jus didnt get how 2 do the sprout teas like shud i grind the seed casing and all? or do i gotta cut the tails from each seed individualy then grind up the tails? cause wen i did it last time it ended up with like a mushy mash not watery really so i added mre water n it turned all milky which i think is gud right? but didnt strain very well so jus didnt really mess with it any mre lol figured id get my ducks in order so to say like learning when i shud give each item or how much i figure the less is more rule wud suit me best for dealing with all these teas since i dnt really know what im doing hahaha but yea thanx so much for the help u guys i just actually brewd up a craft blend tea from build a soil with alil xtra kelp added in so 2morow will be adding tht to my flower girls hopefully the purple kush starts to stretch out alil more now she is in flower has any1 done pk b4 and know when usually does she stretch the most durring the begining middle or endish of flower? anyway thanx all and gudnite

 

[Blazinjones]

Hey there Blaze... ladies are looking a lot better... the yellow one is fine she's fading ... part of the process specially with organic soil. Plants don't always stay picture perfect down the stretch. Yellow and purple leaves are always a good sign in my garden!

Take it easy with the Alfalfa Tea... its STRONG, you can burn roots & leaves with it. I use it at 1/2 of any other amendment or tea recipe. But it's a good one specially early flower and mid VEG, after say 2-3 weeks in flower I start making Malted Grain teas...

Malted Barley is really good (organic of course)

Another REALLY good one is Malted Corn (organic non-GMO) - (Triacontanol major contributor with corn)

The Third one I use is Malted Buckwheat - (organic)

1 ounce ground to a powder into 2-3 gallons of water and this can be watered in no need to aerate, but you can just only aerate for 24 hrs no longer. The malted grains have some sugar in them so aeration at room temps will eventually change over from aerobic to an-aerobic bacteria (alcohol) and once that change happens it's poison to plants like vinegar .....I don't aerate the malted grains much anymore.

Can get the malted grains online.. I got mine from Glutten Free Homebrew online... they have the Corn and Buckwheat as they are gluten free and you can get malted Barley at any homebrew shop locally or online too. I'm an organic wierdo so I bought the organic whole grains - sometimes there's an option to have the malted grain ground for you... don't do that since we are grinding to a fine powder anyway they only crack the hulls when grinding for beers and whatnot.

also how often shud i do my ipm setup like once a week twice a week or what?? not to shur really appreciate the help in this cause i just switched over my early vixen and purple kush into my flower forest now so i really dnt wana lose those girls to pests plz and thanx

 

[Radogast]

I think I get most of the stretch in the first 3 weeks after flowering lights. About 2/3 of the stretch is in the first 2-3 weeks. Once the buds 'set,' when they change from looking like firecracker explosions to looking like baby buds, the stretch is about 2/3 done. Once the buds grow to 'medium' sized, the stretch is over.

That's what I remember, but I'm not the best at observation and memory.

 

[Blazinjones]

I think I get most of the stretch in the first 3 weeks after flowering lights. About 2/3 of the stretch is in the first 2-3 weeks. Once the buds 'set,' when they change from looking like firecracker explosions to looking like baby buds, the stretch is about 2/3 done. Once the buds grow to 'medium' sized, the stretch is over.

That's what I remember, but I'm not the best at observation and memory.

Lol i no rite me either i always be forgeting sumthn or another lol but yea these one buds r stinkn up the whole room lol i love being able 2 come in n smell the sweetness man i cant wait till they hanging up drying they really guna stink then lol everytime i harvest a plant the whole house gets a super amount of stink good every where hahaha i love it

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[Blazinjones]

so alil update on wats guna be upcoming in the grow room i jus purchesed alil ring like deal tht has numerous clips on it tht i can jus hang one hook and hang the whole circle unit on it and then i can hang up numerous branches using the clips instead of a bunch of line hanging from individual spots so it will help save a bunch of room since im about to harvest one of my girls in the nex few days as soon as my hanging unit arrives in the mail but yea onto my grow room as of sunday night i added sum organism xl to one of my ev girls in the veg tent and not to the other to see if i notice a big difference to see if the organism xl is evn worth getting i also did another round of ipm on all my flower girls and also i added alil over a tbsp of kelp, craft blend tea to the mix and gave it to my flower girls oh also i gave em1 to my flower girls and i didnt know if it wud hurt my new seedlings or not so i didnt do it on the veg girls or my ipm spray so if any1 knows if these things can be used on my veg girls tht r only like 2 weeks old and cud let me no i wud greatly appreciate it thanx alot guys but yea now onto alil bud porn b4 bed

below the 2 pics are of my one girl tht was doing really shity and droopy but now she is starting to really come back i think she mite turn out 2 have a half decent yield

and here is my purple kush jus put into flower the other day with ev as well

and i thought i had mre of my early vixen but i guess not but here she is jus put into flower the other day with my pk as well

and last but not least i got my 2 week old early vixens the one tht is not droopy and perking up i gave slightly over a tbsp of organism XL from roots aurora and not to my other 1 to see how much a difference it really makes but yea here they are

the one on the bottom of the pic is the girl tht got the roots XL the top girl didnt and i didnt know if maybe she was droopy and shit from over watering or not so i didnt water them today and guna see if waiting an xtra day makes it worse or not but yea every1 enjoy and thanx for all the help guys and girls

 

[Radogast]

Easy to trim !

Big, beautiful cola.

Big, beautiful leaves

Are you growing only from seed, or are you planning to clone some of your plants?

I find my little clonebucket (I call it a splash cloner) to be incredibly simple - all I do is add water once a week and add veg cuttings when I want to start another plant. The biggest challenge is labelling

Clones need to be on a veg light schedule instead of a flower light schedule - but you are doing a veg light schedule anyway

 

[Blazinjones]

Easy to trim !




Big, beautiful cola.




Big, beautiful leaves





Are you growing only from seed, or are you planning to clone some of your plants?

I find my little clonebucket (I call it a splash cloner) to be incredibly simple - all I do is add water once a week and add veg cuttings when I want to start another plant. The biggest challenge is labelling

Clones need to be on a veg light schedule instead of a flower light schedule - but you are doing a veg light schedule anyway

Yea im doing cloning i have alil home cloner box same kinda deal as urs n i jus add ro water once a week n alil rooting hormones with an 2 lil air pumps and 3 3inch air stones seems 2 get all them stems nice n wet dwn n then i got alil plastic dome like thing on top ill post a pic wen i get inside n its on veg timing 20 on 4 off an only 1 cfl light in there with them

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[Blazinjones]

Easy to trim !




Big, beautiful cola.




Big, beautiful leaves





Are you growing only from seed, or are you planning to clone some of your plants?

I find my little clonebucket (I call it a splash cloner) to be incredibly simple - all I do is add water once a week and add veg cuttings when I want to start another plant. The biggest challenge is labelling

Clones need to be on a veg light schedule instead of a flower light schedule - but you are doing a veg light schedule anyway

Yes i also for get 2 lable them i jus did tht with this last batch of early vixen n purple kush clones lol but i think i will be able 2 tell wen they start 2 grow cuz the ev really stretches out her sativa genetics where as the pk stays short n bunchy it seems atleast for this pheno type the idk ill see ina lil while cuz i jus put a seed into soil the last nite of pk i germed 2 seeds n this 1 popped a tail the first day ana half the other is still waiting but i think it will be jus like last time i germed 2 pk seeds and only 1 poped a tail the first day or two n the other i waited 2 mre days still didnt crack so i put it into soil anyway n it didnt grow n jus like this time only 1 poped a tail but i still will hold out another day or 2 ..............or 3 lol jus 2 make sure it isnt wasted lol but yea i dnt think im guna get pk again for awhile unless it jus turns into a monster r sumthn once in flower lol thn mayb but 4 nw it seems really hard to get clones from her since the branches jus dnt get very long n not to many nodes but also im a newb lol so i dnt know much for traing to make it bigger im slowly learning tho lol with great information from people like u n bobrown n Abird n many others i really am coming along at a decent rate i feel anyway haha but yea thanx for stopn by always glad 2 have a fellow grower to bounce ideas back n forth off

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[AngryBird]

Glad she turned around for you

 

[bobrown14]

awesome bob yea im using a super diluted form of the alfalfa like only a cup to a cup ana half of the already aireated tea into a gallon of ro water then i use tht 2 water my girls. thanx for all the info on malted grains i have sum organic corn seeds but i jus didnt get how 2 do the sprout teas like shud i grind the seed casing and all? or do i gotta cut the tails from each seed individualy then grind up the tails? cause wen i did it last time it ended up with like a mushy mash not watery really so i added mre water n it turned all milky which i think is gud right? but didnt strain very well so jus didnt really mess with it any mre lol figured id get my ducks in order so to say like learning when i shud give each item or how much i figure the less is more rule wud suit me best for dealing with all these teas since i dnt really know what im doing hahaha but yea thanx so much for the help u guys i just actually brewd up a craft blend tea from build a soil with alil xtra kelp added in so 2morow will be adding tht to my flower girls hopefully the purple kush starts to stretch out alil more now she is in flower has any1 done pk b4 and know when usually does she stretch the most durring the begining middle or endish of flower? anyway thanx all and gudnite

On the Corn Sprouts .. just grind em up ... if they are fresh sprouts yes strain into a few gallons of water.. like 1-2 cups to 1-2 gallons water. You can get already sprouted corn... it's called Malted Corn .. same deal just the sprouting process and drying is a lot more controlled for brewing... stuff like Corn Liquor etc... we can use that malted corn same as Malted Barley.

The Malted grains get ground up in a coffee grinder to a powder 1oz to 1-2 gal water.

The Seed sprouts ground up in a food processor (strain or not) into 1-2 gal water.

I use the Corn and Alfalfa sprouts mainly in VEG and early flower and use the malted grains in flower but also in VEG to but best down the stretch... a little goes a long way...

Take notes on what you use and how the girls respond. So you can adjust the next round. Suggest growing the same strains again so you know what to expect ... each strain is a little different and take amendments differently. A few rounds you will know what to expect. Add another strain and repeat! Notes on grow, weigh the dried results and note that and the time from flower to harvest. The idea is to have fun first but also to judge your progression... My goal is 1 plant 1 pound (dry weight indoors).

If you don't push yourself to get better every round, complacency is your next step, with disaster not far behind.

It's easy to get complacent so push yourself but remember this is FUN ... I wouldn't be here if it wasn't.

 

[bobrown14]

lookin good getting close to harvest... your RH is getting high, try and keep it below 50% max nights ... better to be dry than humid. That's probably the leaf curl... I have the same issue. Some strains can handle it some cannot. What's happening is PM... it's always around. The plant knows it's there and tries to fight it off. I Found that out with a microscope..

Easy cure is make a tea from Horsetail Fern .. foiler spray .. do that as early as you can (diluted of course) and can go all the way to
harvest, there's no smell or taste and it's got a lot of silica (same as is in Pro-tetk).

Some folks say that if you do the foiler of Horsetail in VEG you won't have PM in flower. Again the PM is strain dependent.. some fight it off better than others. Why you see descriptions on seeds that say stuff like; "average resistance to mold". That's canna talk for keep the RH down as low as you can .... not always easy to do.

Looking great there bro.. Blazin is holdin.. time to pack up the Vap there my friend. PPP

FYI:
You can do bud wash after harvest with some H2o2 (peroxide) in water and dunk the buds, hang dry with a fan. I had it on one plant and did that ... it worked... to my surprise... haven't tasted the buds yet tho. They are smelling good tho.. a lot better than "scanky dank throw in compost" for sure bro.

 

[Blazinjones]

lookin good getting close to harvest... your RH is getting high, try and keep it below 50% max nights ... better to be dry than humid. That's probably the leaf curl... I have the same issue. Some strains can handle it some cannot. What's happening is PM... it's always around. The plant knows it's there and tries to fight it off. I Found that out with a microscope..

Easy cure is make a tea from Horsetail Fern .. foiler spray .. do that as early as you can (diluted of course) and can go all the way to
harvest, there's no smell or taste and it's got a lot of silica (same as is in Pro-tetk).

Some folks say that if you do the foiler of Horsetail in VEG you won't have PM in flower. Again the PM is strain dependent.. some fight it off better than others. Why you see descriptions on seeds that say stuff like; "average resistance to mold". That's canna talk for keep the RH down as low as you can .... not always easy to do.

Looking great there bro.. Blazin is holdin.. time to pack up the Vap there my friend. PPP

FYI:
You can do bud wash after harvest with some H2o2 (peroxide) in water and dunk the buds, hang dry with a fan. I had it on one plant and did that ... it worked... to my surprise... haven't tasted the buds yet tho. They are smelling good tho.. a lot better than "scanky dank throw in compost" for sure bro.

ok as 4 A bud wash i use lemon juice n baking powder in a 5 gallon bucket of water then another 5 gallon bucket of ro water tht i use after the lemon one but yea so far so gud as soon as my drying rack shows up ill be harvesting the one girl tht all her fan leaves fell off there will be lke nuthn left to trim cept the leaves ill be making hash with but yea im about to go pick a freshie my friend here enjoy sum taste gud with this organic super soil this has been the best tasting stuff ive ever had and all ive tried so far was my half and half. half super soil los mix and the other half roots organic bag soil so still all organic but i have a feeling the girls tht r growing now competley in the los mix will be way better tasting atleast i hope they are haha but yea try and enjoy my friends here man i cant wait till harvest lol these girls jus smell sooooooo amazing its guna be a tht day lol anyway thanx every1

 

[Blazinjones]

k so finally got my new seeds in the mail 2day yay im guna start 2 of my autos 2nite so any helpful tips and hints wud be greatly appreciated the 2 i will be starting 2nite will be a blueberry auto and an electric fruit auto. this will be my first time doing an auto grow im really excited lol like alil fatty in the candy store hahaha but yea now on to sum goodies here is my organic girl i just harvested lasnight and have hanging on my new bud hanger i call it lol but yeah enjoy and member keep it green and stay frosty my friends

ina few weeks here it will be a over lol so here friends try vaping a freshie lol they need to make an emoji tht has 2 lil smiley faces on the sides of a volcano vape with alil bag on top so we can send vapes back n forth lol not jus jays so since they didnt have one i just used the jay one lol

 

[Jgrowlove]

Congrats on the harvest it should be some top shelf smoke by the looks of the frostiness lol!!

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[Blazinjones]

Congrats on the harvest it should be some top shelf smoke by the looks of the frostiness lol!!

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brotha yea they not quite top shelf lol but maybe 2nd haha but not bad jus not really a good flavor and a bit harsh and it kinda loses its smell quick 2 but atleast it gets me high i hope now i got sum gud genetics tht i can start to improve the flavor and over smell of my buds and also fine tune my harvesting and curing technique

 

[bobrown14]

Congrats on your harvest buddy!

The flavor comes and the harshness goes...smells should come and go and the plant dries. After jarring you get the smells back. Do you have some Bovida packs to put in the jars?? They work great for curing and keep the buds fresh. I've had buds in C-Vaults for a year with Bovida packs in with and still fresh.

That's a pretty fancy nug rack there.. I usually just hang my plants upside down with a fan on em.... no trim and no cutting off the stems. It takes a little longer (not much) but the flavor and smell are retained.

The idea here is that you chop the plant but its definitely still alive. Why we can put flowers in a vase of water and they still stay fresh for several days even a week or so.. if they were dead you would not be able to take clones and all that jazz either.

The nutrients are still in the fan leaves and the plant will use up those nutrients while still hanging upside down. Once we cut off all or most of the living material that's it. The way I do it seems to improve the flavor and it helps the flowers dry evenly.

The harshness is the taste of the Chlorophyll still left in the plant material. This is the reason for hang drying and more importantly curing.

Some say this is the most critical step in cannabis growing. The dry and cure. This is also the stage where we are developing "bag appeal". Don't want overdry nugs = no taste no smell...it's better to have slightly moist buds so they can "cure" properly and develop the taste, smell and feel of the premium AAA+ nuggetry ...

You have AAA right there... Don't sell it short. Those buds look mighty fine. They should get you more than a little high. Organically grown you should be able to count on more THC and Terpenes thatn what you were growing with chems same genetics.


Tripple A right there.... don't let the buds get too dry. Once you jar them they will get more moist so unless you have Bovida packs you need to burp or leave the jars open for a few hours in the beginning so they don't get damp.

Blaze is holding... party at Blazes place.. fire up the grill we can dry and cure then in 15 minutes J/K...

Good job buddy... Your Purple Kush looks GREAT, what seedbank are they from??

I popped a few I had laying around and they were duds .. grew 3" and started flowering after 3 nodes in 24/0 light... WTF?

They are definitely autos but were purchased as REGs .. I suck at growing AUTO strains...well cept for Dark Devil .... I have no advice for AUTOs. I don't think they generally do well in organics probably due to genetics, all grown in chems.

 

[Blazinjones]

Congrats on your harvest buddy!

The flavor comes and the harshness goes...smells should come and go and the plant dries. After jarring you get the smells back. Do you have some Bovida packs to put in the jars?? They work great for curing and keep the buds fresh. I've had buds in C-Vaults for a year with Bovida packs in with and still fresh.

That's a pretty fancy nug rack there.. I usually just hang my plants upside down with a fan on em.... no trim and no cutting off the stems. It takes a little longer (not much) but the flavor and smell are retained.

The idea here is that you chop the plant but its definitely still alive. Why we can put flowers in a vase of water and they still stay fresh for several days even a week or so.. if they were dead you would not be able to take clones and all that jazz either.

The nutrients are still in the fan leaves and the plant will use up those nutrients while still hanging upside down. Once we cut off all or most of the living material that's it. The way I do it seems to improve the flavor and it helps the flowers dry evenly.

The harshness is the taste of the Chlorophyll still left in the plant material. This is the reason for hang drying and more importantly curing.

Some say this is the most critical step in cannabis growing. The dry and cure. This is also the stage where we are developing "bag appeal". Don't want overdry nugs = no taste no smell...it's better to have slightly moist buds so they can "cure" properly and develop the taste, smell and feel of the premium AAA+ nuggetry ...

You have AAA right there... Don't sell it short. Those buds look mighty fine. They should get you more than a little high. Organically grown you should be able to count on more THC and Terpenes thatn what you were growing with chems same genetics.


Tripple A right there.... don't let the buds get too dry. Once you jar them they will get more moist so unless you have Bovida packs you need to burp or leave the jars open for a few hours in the beginning so they don't get damp.

Blaze is holding... party at Blazes place.. fire up the grill we can dry and cure then in 15 minutes J/K...

Good job buddy... Your Purple Kush looks GREAT, what seedbank are they from??

I popped a few I had laying around and they were duds .. grew 3" and started flowering after 3 nodes in 24/0 light... WTF?

They are definitely autos but were purchased as REGs .. I suck at growing AUTO strains...well cept for Dark Devil .... I have no advice for AUTOs. I don't think they generally do well in organics probably due to genetics, all grown in chems.

Awesome man thanx for the info on organic for auto maybe ill do my roots bag soil n bag nutes still organic lmao but maybe it be alil better then the los mix for the autos anyway idk we will see i got a blueberry auto about to go into soil prolly 2morow and i bought it threw gyo seed bank n thy got from dutch passion and my purple kush is from cks i jus took 2 clones off her in flower the other night due 2 she is the only 1 tht made it out of my 7 seeds 2 actually popped a tail but so far this is the only tht is growing its been almost a week n the other still hasnt popped above soil so i doubt she will but who nos im still watering as if she mite jus incase lol but yea as for cloning my early vixen is doing amazing i got like 4 or 5 n three already have roots starting jus now waiting for them to get alil longer so thts really kool and i hope to get a few clones going of my pyrple kush i think one of the clones tht has roots goin mite actually be a purple kush lol i forgot to lable those first ones n got the vixen n kush mixed up lol but i figured i wud no which is which once they start groing since they r so different lookn but yea eitherway i think ill be happy with end results

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[Blazinjones]

man now this a party bowl lol ha

 

[Blazinjones]

so lasnite i gave a tea of kashi, kelp, alfalfa, compost, and ewc brewed for 24 hours then gave to my flower girls above here is my purple kush in flower look she already has lil bud like areas starting and she is putting out pistals to man i cant wait to c the buds on this girl!!
below is my eaarly vixen also a tasty lookn girl she already is starting to get a smell 2 her its kinda hard 2 explain lol but its changing from what she started out as she used 2 smell like fresh greens or grass like but now has a faint gassy smell almost idk but i hope its a gud thing and nt like a mold or sumthn i lookd all over her n no pm or actual mold i even fliped over sum of the top soil jus to check n c if maybe tht was it but nope all clear i think she jus a smelly lil shit lol hahaha