Autos v. Photos - A 5x5 No Rules Fight for Yield: A Jon & NickHardy Gig

There won’t be a vast difference. I have tons of various sized risers. I can go up an inch at a time or six or a foot. Plus with the light coming down today so that all I have to do is raise it as we go, I can start on the floor. That’s a big advantage in terms of evening out plant heights. But you’re right, I will have to attend to that. But I promise you Shed, you will see a wall to wall and corner to corner canopy as flat as the Northern Lights. At least til the stretch starts. Then I’m screwed. :rofl:
Oh good! You had me nervous when you said on the floor. I guess "basically" was doing the heavy lifting. :)
 
Side light will compensate for the 2 foot starting height difference?
You mean his? I have the taller tent. My colas are going to be long and tall. The top light will penetrate down to distance x, the side lights will beef up below x. But for him, hell, he doesn’t even need them, he’s got 1000 watts and CO2. He’s just going for a complete beat down. Thing is, I know what I’m doing. Does he? But yes, his will definitely help a lot, and with all his bells and whistles, to be honest he has no excuse for losing.
 
You mean his? I have the taller tent. My colas are going to be long and tall. The top light will penetrate down to distance x, the side lights will beef up below x. But for him, hell, he doesn’t even need them, he’s got 1000 watts and CO2. He’s just going for a complete beat down. Thing is, I know what I’m doing. Does he? But yes, his will definitely help a lot, and with all his bells and whistles, to be honest he has no excuse for losing.
What I believe I can do is create a canopy of colas like the big Blackberry Moonrocks ones. For that I definitely need side lights. If I were doing a scrog like end product with buds more like the Cherry Pie, I could probably get away without them.

Edit: I have selected my strains carefully so as to not end up with any short indica like plants. All sativa learners or 50/50s like the WWC.
 
I meant yours. Sorry, since you tagged me I thought your side light post was in reply to my question about the height difference.
We got a little twisted there, sorry, my bad, but you get it all yes?
 
You mean his? I have the taller tent. My colas are going to be long and tall. The top light will penetrate down to distance x, the side lights will beef up below x. But for him, hell, he doesn’t even need them, he’s got 1000 watts and CO2. He’s just going for a complete beat down. Thing is, I know what I’m doing. Does he? But yes, his will definitely help a lot, and with all his bells and whistles, to be honest he has no excuse for losing.
I checked my ppfd tonight and I was shock how high i had achieved with happy plants ,id just been using eyes and skin 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 and hadn't checked with meter .
It is at 1150 umol at top of the canopy and my light is 22 cm away and with a DLI of 50.
And they are loving it
 
I do, and thanks!
Thank YOU. Me and Nick appreciate your interest and input. You’ve already become a factor in this grow, whether or not you know it, especially on my behalf. ( :thanks: )

Witness: the work you did for me on the Cyco. As well as our PB exchange. Both of those helped me define my parameters big time.
 
My prepped semi organic pots look like this, and heh.

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Don't I recall you saying that synthetics will beat organics for yield on autos?
You do, and I did, and they will most always. Lol. I have four in this grow - 2 in 2s, 2 in 3s. The 3s have the California Super Soil. All four are simply “fill in” plants. I am fairly certain I can fill it with the 5 autos, but I wanted an insurance policy. That’s these four. They’ll stay small cuz soil and cuz small pots, by design. All I gotta do is match up their canopies.
 
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7x Bubba Kush Barneys Farm

Bubba Kush Strain by Barneys Farm

Bubba Kush is a remarkable weed strain and has descended from the famous genetics originally discovered by somebody only known as ‘Bubbha’ in the US. It has now been stabilised by the team and elevated to a standard that befits its well known history and reputation. This surely is one of the most loved Indicas in the world, Bubba Kush weighing in at a startling 29% THC. Bubba Kush is a cheeky yet productive plant that will not become excessively tall during her speedy 8 to 9 week flowering period. Because of this characteristic she can be an ideal candidate for those seeking a powerful hard hitting strain that does not take up a huge amount of space whilst budding.

Performance is not compromised in any way whatsoever, however, with final yields of up to 600g/m2 indoors easily reached by applying a little love and care to Bubba’s needs. Blast yourself flying through into the world of Bubba Kush and experience one of the most soothing cannabis strains in the world. Genuine Afghani landrace lineage ensures absolutely outstanding potency, with exotic fragrances from the east reminiscent of aromatic Turkish delight chocolate bars. Why not take a ride on the unique magical carpet ride that is the one and only Bubba Kush strain?

5x Seedstrockers OG Kush

Seedstockers O.G Kush​


Our original OG Kush combines a deeply satisfying and rich genuine Kush taste with one of the strongest smokes in our collection. This is a top quality and top strength cannabis seed variety made with the best west-coast USA OG genetics. Harvest quantities are above average, the buds are firm and dripping with resin. This powerful indica dominant variety delivers a heavy-hitting effect which will also be popular with medical growers looking for powerful pain relief. THC consistently 22%-24%+. Highly recommended.

3x Blackberry Moonrocks Blimburn

Blackberry Moonrocks Indica Weed Flavors and Effects​

Blackberry Moonrocks indica weed gives off an amazing terpene profile with Fruity, Lemon, Orange and Skunk flavors. Its effects are powerful and physical, acting as a sedative to promote relaxation. This strain is not recommended for the faint of heart or beginners as its gigantic THC content of 32% and the extensive cannabinoid profile ensure long-lasting, very intense effects. The effect is very strong, mainly Indica-dominant, and is complemented by the inspiring and mood-enhancing Sativa effects. This strain creates a fluffy, soft high that will inspire you and ensure cheerfulness and euphoria.

15x popped. They’ll be in paper for 36-48 hours after they’ve a soak for 90 minutes or so.

Your move, Sir.

Nick
 
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7x Bubba Kush Barneys Farm

Bubba Kush Strain by Barneys Farm

Bubba Kush is a remarkable weed strain and has descended from the famous genetics originally discovered by somebody only known as ‘Bubbha’ in the US. It has now been stabilised by the team and elevated to a standard that befits its well known history and reputation. This surely is one of the most loved Indicas in the world, Bubba Kush weighing in at a startling 29% THC. Bubba Kush is a cheeky yet productive plant that will not become excessively tall during her speedy 8 to 9 week flowering period. Because of this characteristic she can be an ideal candidate for those seeking a powerful hard hitting strain that does not take up a huge amount of space whilst budding.

Performance is not compromised in any way whatsoever, however, with final yields of up to 600g/m2 indoors easily reached by applying a little love and care to Bubba’s needs. Blast yourself flying through into the world of Bubba Kush and experience one of the most soothing cannabis strains in the world. Genuine Afghani landrace lineage ensures absolutely outstanding potency, with exotic fragrances from the east reminiscent of aromatic Turkish delight chocolate bars. Why not take a ride on the unique magical carpet ride that is the one and only Bubba Kush strain?

5x Seedstrockers OG Kush

Seedstockers O.G Kush​


Our original OG Kush combines a deeply satisfying and rich genuine Kush taste with one of the strongest smokes in our collection. This is a top quality and top strength cannabis seed variety made with the best west-coast USA OG genetics. Harvest quantities are above average, the buds are firm and dripping with resin. This powerful indica dominant variety delivers a heavy-hitting effect which will also be popular with medical growers looking for powerful pain relief. THC consistently 22%-24%+. Highly recommended.

3x Blackberry Moonrocks Blimburn

Blackberry Moonrocks Indica Weed Flavors and Effects​

Blackberry Moonrocks indica weed gives off an amazing terpene profile with Fruity, Lemon, Orange and Skunk flavors. Its effects are powerful and physical, acting as a sedative to promote relaxation. This strain is not recommended for the faint of heart or beginners as its gigantic THC content of 32% and the extensive cannabinoid profile ensure long-lasting, very intense effects. The effect is very strong, mainly Indica-dominant, and is complemented by the inspiring and mood-enhancing Sativa effects. This strain creates a fluffy, soft high that will inspire you and ensure cheerfulness and euphoria.

15x popped. They’ll be in paper for 36-48 hours after they’ve a soak for 90 minutes or so.

Your move, Sir.

Nick
:cheer:

And here I was thinking the fifth was some vague date in the future!
 
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7x Bubba Kush Barneys Farm

Bubba Kush Strain by Barneys Farm

Bubba Kush is a remarkable weed strain and has descended from the famous genetics originally discovered by somebody only known as ‘Bubbha’ in the US. It has now been stabilised by the team and elevated to a standard that befits its well known history and reputation. This surely is one of the most loved Indicas in the world, Bubba Kush weighing in at a startling 29% THC. Bubba Kush is a cheeky yet productive plant that will not become excessively tall during her speedy 8 to 9 week flowering period. Because of this characteristic she can be an ideal candidate for those seeking a powerful hard hitting strain that does not take up a huge amount of space whilst budding.

Performance is not compromised in any way whatsoever, however, with final yields of up to 600g/m2 indoors easily reached by applying a little love and care to Bubba’s needs. Blast yourself flying through into the world of Bubba Kush and experience one of the most soothing cannabis strains in the world. Genuine Afghani landrace lineage ensures absolutely outstanding potency, with exotic fragrances from the east reminiscent of aromatic Turkish delight chocolate bars. Why not take a ride on the unique magical carpet ride that is the one and only Bubba Kush strain?

5x Seedstrockers OG Kush

Seedstockers O.G Kush​


Our original OG Kush combines a deeply satisfying and rich genuine Kush taste with one of the strongest smokes in our collection. This is a top quality and top strength cannabis seed variety made with the best west-coast USA OG genetics. Harvest quantities are above average, the buds are firm and dripping with resin. This powerful indica dominant variety delivers a heavy-hitting effect which will also be popular with medical growers looking for powerful pain relief. THC consistently 22%-24%+. Highly recommended.

3x Blackberry Moonrocks Blimburn

Blackberry Moonrocks Indica Weed Flavors and Effects​

Blackberry Moonrocks indica weed gives off an amazing terpene profile with Fruity, Lemon, Orange and Skunk flavors. Its effects are powerful and physical, acting as a sedative to promote relaxation. This strain is not recommended for the faint of heart or beginners as its gigantic THC content of 32% and the extensive cannabinoid profile ensure long-lasting, very intense effects. The effect is very strong, mainly Indica-dominant, and is complemented by the inspiring and mood-enhancing Sativa effects. This strain creates a fluffy, soft high that will inspire you and ensure cheerfulness and euphoria.

15x popped. They’ll be in paper for 36-48 hours after they’ve a soak for 90 minutes or so.

Your move, Sir.

Nick
Working on it. Busy. And nice drop. Lol.
 
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7x Bubba Kush Barneys Farm

Bubba Kush Strain by Barneys Farm

Bubba Kush is a remarkable weed strain and has descended from the famous genetics originally discovered by somebody only known as ‘Bubbha’ in the US. It has now been stabilised by the team and elevated to a standard that befits its well known history and reputation. This surely is one of the most loved Indicas in the world, Bubba Kush weighing in at a startling 29% THC. Bubba Kush is a cheeky yet productive plant that will not become excessively tall during her speedy 8 to 9 week flowering period. Because of this characteristic she can be an ideal candidate for those seeking a powerful hard hitting strain that does not take up a huge amount of space whilst budding.

Performance is not compromised in any way whatsoever, however, with final yields of up to 600g/m2 indoors easily reached by applying a little love and care to Bubba’s needs. Blast yourself flying through into the world of Bubba Kush and experience one of the most soothing cannabis strains in the world. Genuine Afghani landrace lineage ensures absolutely outstanding potency, with exotic fragrances from the east reminiscent of aromatic Turkish delight chocolate bars. Why not take a ride on the unique magical carpet ride that is the one and only Bubba Kush strain?

5x Seedstrockers OG Kush

Seedstockers O.G Kush​


Our original OG Kush combines a deeply satisfying and rich genuine Kush taste with one of the strongest smokes in our collection. This is a top quality and top strength cannabis seed variety made with the best west-coast USA OG genetics. Harvest quantities are above average, the buds are firm and dripping with resin. This powerful indica dominant variety delivers a heavy-hitting effect which will also be popular with medical growers looking for powerful pain relief. THC consistently 22%-24%+. Highly recommended.

3x Blackberry Moonrocks Blimburn

Blackberry Moonrocks Indica Weed Flavors and Effects​

Blackberry Moonrocks indica weed gives off an amazing terpene profile with Fruity, Lemon, Orange and Skunk flavors. Its effects are powerful and physical, acting as a sedative to promote relaxation. This strain is not recommended for the faint of heart or beginners as its gigantic THC content of 32% and the extensive cannabinoid profile ensure long-lasting, very intense effects. The effect is very strong, mainly Indica-dominant, and is complemented by the inspiring and mood-enhancing Sativa effects. This strain creates a fluffy, soft high that will inspire you and ensure cheerfulness and euphoria.

15x popped. They’ll be in paper for 36-48 hours after they’ve a soak for 90 minutes or so.

Your move, Sir.

Nick
Wait, @NickHardy, WAIT!!!! You used the YELLOW Solos for your drop cups. You can’t do that! It makes all the seeds grow downwards instead of up and they never pop! If I were you I’d switch those to blue or green right away!

:rofl::rofl::rofl:
 
Alright Nick, as you said, my turn…

Here’s the drop, with the number of seeds in each cup. I dropped 14 to get 9 keepers.

Here’s the strains:

- Watermelon Wedding Cake XXL Auto
Growers Choice

Wedding Cake X Watermelon Zkittlez
11 weeks
28-30% THC
70/30 sativa leaning hybrid

- Gorilla Cookies Auto
420FastBuds

Gorilla Glue #4 x Thin Mint Girl Scout Cookies
10 weeks
21-25% THC
70/30 sativa leaning hybrid

- Bruce Banner Auto
420FastBuds

OG Kush x Strawberry Diesel
10-11 weeks
25% THC
65/35 sativa leaning hybrid

- Apple Fritter Auto
Blimburn

Sour Apple x Animal Cookies
10 weeks
22-25% THC
60/40 indica leaning hybrid

- Stardawg Auto
Blimburn

ChemDog 4 x Tres Dog
10-11 weeks
25% THC
70/30 indica leaning hybrid

- Trizkit Auto
20Twenty Mendocino

12-14 weeks
24-26% THC
100% sativa

So there you go Nick. IT IS OFFICIALLY ON.
 
I’m trying a new EWC for the semi organic plants. Uncle Jim’s. Comes in this cool bag. But supposedly very high quality.

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Also a couple of these…heh

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