Autoflower Myth Busting Thread

Yeah I after lookin at my gals I'm pretty satisfied so far and to top it off with getting mind f..ed on the web with color , lumen, and par information the hell with it for now lol.. But anyways I have other issues....
 
U no I try to do all the right things..light distance,,I turn my girls every day.. But I can't seem to get enough light in to get the side growth what it's craving right now mainly because my dam fans r sooo huge..on one in particular
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This is the other gal she was a little shorter at first so I guess when the side growth started it must have made it easier to get light to them
 
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I don't want to go crazy but can I do anything simple to maybe get a little light in to the first one maybe
 
Lmfao Baxter Wolfe ... So what? Just tie her down little bye little r somthin from the main "stem"? It's so hard for me in so many ways... Where to tie? How to tie? How much? How far? Not to mention I have grown plenty of other things and it goes against everything I know and have learned, so it plays with my head bad..... Also I feel like if I throw off the plant symmetrically that when it grows it will fall over r break r who knows what.. And then all I c is these pics of allmost christmastree beauties and I think that's what I'm suppose to b shooting for????
 
Oh and it's not that small of an area.. About 5ft bye 4ft and thats 5gl pots ,prolly looks cramped cuz just one light source for now so I have everybody kind of tight but I turn and also rotate the pots daily. To try and get even light coverage,growth and hopefully straight plants
 
I'd like to try MH for veg with photo period plants but is it worth the risk of leaving it too long with autos? After starting seedlings under CFL I've been going straight to a 600W dual spectrum HPS.

I start my autos under 600W MH and move them to 1000W HPS after 7 weeks. They're in the same room and both lights are always on since I rotate plants through their stations, but they seem ok with the MH early on.
 
Thanks for the pics and the help b Wolfe but I still don't fully get it. I c it looks like u have pulled her over one way and tied her down and pulled the top down the opposite way?? Is that the idea? Do u try and go bye the plant r?? Also do u leave it that way r is it just temporary to get light in? I noticed the 2nd to last picture u posted "blue bucket"it looks so straight it looks like maybe u pulled the plant over maybe from side to side throughout its veg state???.
 
Whether or not your garden will benefit from LST is a function of your overall space - width and height - and your lights. If you've got tons of space and a super strong light, it's not so useful. If you have limited space, the point of LST is to force a flatter canopy on the plant than would develop naturally. To really understand it, you have to grow a plant out without doing anything to it. You have to look at it every day and see that the bottom 1/3 of the plant is kinda weak looking. You have to see that the top of the plant is kind of shaped like a pointy paintbrush, that the top 1/3 of it is heavy with buds, and the middle 1/3 of it is somewhere inbetween the useless stuff at the bottom and the good stuff at the top. Then, you realize if you tugged the taller canes apart some, more light gets in to that middle third of the plant. Then, you might realize if the taller canes were more wiggly shaped and less straight, then those middle buds would be at about the same height as the tall ones (from the ground). Then, you start thinking if you could force it like that as it grew, you'd have like twice as much plant at the same height getting the really good light. THEN all of a sudden LST makes sense to you.

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In this group of plants, I had 3 that were really outgrowing the other 3. Eventually, they would have been so much taller that the others would have been in constant shadow. I gently pulled the central stem over, giving it a 90 degree elbow, and tied it there. Few hours later, the top was once again pointing straight up. A few days later, I repeated this - bending the top over and waiting on it to straighten up. Now, the main stem of those plants is kind of spiraling around the outer edge of the pot, and the smaller stems are sticking up at about the same level as the main cola is. It's hard to see the green velcro ribbons I use to tie the plants down with, but if you look closely, they're in there.

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Atrain's picture makes more sense than actual plants.
 
These are not autos, however the branching is controlled with a lot of training. you can follow the main trunks up from the first branch to get some idea how much. I just started after they had more height. These finished at about 4 feet tall and 5 feet wide.

Autos probably would not respond well to this approach because it takes more time. I mostly want to show that it is not that hard to keep an even canape that is not that deep.

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Whether or not your garden will benefit from LST is a function of your overall space - width and height - and your lights. If you've got tons of space and a super strong light, it's not so useful. If you have limited space, the point of LST is to force a flatter canopy on the plant than would develop naturally. To really understand it, you have to grow a plant out without doing anything to it. You have to look at it every day and see that the bottom 1/3 of the plant is kinda weak looking. You have to see that the top of the plant is kind of shaped like a pointy paintbrush, that the top 1/3 of it is heavy with buds, and the middle 1/3 of it is somewhere inbetween the useless stuff at the bottom and the good stuff at the top. Then, you realize if you tugged the taller canes apart some, more light gets in to that middle third of the plant. Then, you might realize if the taller canes were more wiggly shaped and less straight, then those middle buds would be at about the same height as the tall ones (from the ground). Then, you start thinking if you could force it like that as it grew, you'd have like twice as much plant at the same height getting the really good light. THEN all of a sudden LST makes sense to you.

2015-12-23_10_23_46.jpg


In this group of plants, I had 3 that were really outgrowing the other 3. Eventually, they would have been so much taller that the others would have been in constant shadow. I gently pulled the central stem over, giving it a 90 degree elbow, and tied it there. Few hours later, the top was once again pointing straight up. A few days later, I repeated this - bending the top over and waiting on it to straighten up. Now, the main stem of those plants is kind of spiraling around the outer edge of the pot, and the smaller stems are sticking up at about the same level as the main cola is. It's hard to see the green velcro ribbons I use to tie the plants down with, but if you look closely, they're in there.

Screenshot_2015-11-23-15-53-59-1-1.jpg

Atrain's picture makes more sense than actual plants.


Dang grow chick breaking out my LST Picasso lol
 
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