Ase's Multi-Strain Quadlining In Coco

Asesino85 said:
Yeah I'd bend the larger one out now and maybe let the smaller one just keep growing normal. If the smaller one starts to look like it could use some widening then you could do that but don't force it! I always try to let the littler ones just grow normally until I feel like they could use a bit of bending or tying down. They don't tend to stretch as much so even if you just let it do it's thing for the next week I don't think it will stretch like crazy. I bet it will be more like Double Berry I just took down. The big one needs some widening though.

I preach the method of flipping and not touching so people don't mess things up in stretch, especially if they are a very new grower but you can pin things down all through stretch if you want. It's a good way to control things if you are worried about vertical space. If stretch lasts 17 days and you keep training them for 10 or so then you'll still get about a week of vertical going on. Really there is a lot of options but I just feel like only vegging for 3.5 weeks in a 5 gallon pot hasn't given the roots enough time to develop to really get nice looking plants. I'm sure some people can pull it off but I've found about 5 weeks in veg really give a better yield without things getting out of control.

You decision to only grow two plants really has given you a lot of options but you do still want to maximize that space so I think you are on the right track with getting them a bit wider and going another week before flip.
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Thanks a lot for those details! I was still unsure cause I don't want to grow multiple small buds. They're are a pain to trim. I m also dreaming about seeing huge healthy buds in my garden. But you re right I should be able to train them the way I want. I shouldn't be concerned but be more confident
 
Asesino85 said:
What has been the average harvest time for the StankBerry? That will be a part of my next grow for sure. I may just dry out the one little cola I have that bent over on the DTF and use it as a tester. I don't usually do the whole tester thing but the DTF has me seriously intrigued with how the high is going to be. I so want this to be my go to strain for hiking and being outdoors.
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Seems 65-70 has been fairly common, but I think if you get a heavy leaning ATF pheno, it could go longer. I have two Stankberry girls going right now.....gonna have a better idea in another month to 45 days.

I think you will like the DTF high, I really liked it.
 
Yeah they're like a 10 ish week cross. And also one of the best around if you want my honest opinion. The berry aroma is just unreal!
 
TheMadDabber said:
Yeah they're like a 10 ish week cross. And also one of the best around if you want my honest opinion. The berry aroma is just unreal!
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The Double Berry I grew was unreal as well. I'm hoping it smells just like that crossed with the ATF and sounds like it will.
 
Ase's Update

Already some of you are probably scratching your head at the title of this post. Normally it says what day I am on or what tent or plant I am focusing on but this post is just about me. There won't be any cool pictures to look at or massive plants so if that's all you are into then you will be thoroughly disappointed. However, for those that care a little more then that then read on. I will try to make this as short as I can.

6-7 years ago I landed myself in the hospital with what I thought was some sort of complication to my heart. That area was really tight and my heart was beating like crazy and I was freaking out. Luckily my roommates mother was a nurse and she talked to me on the phone and told me I really need to go to the hospital so I did. They ran a number of tests on me and everything in terms of the heart looked ok but because my work is physical I had some things out of place and it pushed against nerves in that area and that is what caused that sensation. It was pretty freaky and I honestly thought I was going to have a heart attack and die.

Lately I have been having the same thing happen again and it has happened multiple times. At first I thought it may just be that I am freaking out and getting too high and not being able to talk myself down from it but I've been a heavy weed smoker for 15+ years. I don't get as high as I used to get ever. Long story short I discovered that these things I have been having are panic attacks and they are as bad as they can get. I've talked to people about it and many people say that they've had them and they get all shaky and stuff but this is way more intense then that. They've lasted hours and you just feel like any second you could die. I'm a pretty mentally strong person and I just never thought I would have complications like this but lately I've been working way too many hours and not taking care of myself. The crappy part is that weed has been the trigger in all of these situations. Generally I smoke to just relax and take the edge off. I've always had issues with anxiety and it's always helped but lately it hasn't, in fact it's just pushed me over the edge a few times to where I have these panic attacks. Even when I've come down off of the high I still am going through the panic attack so it doesn't go away once I've come down. Moral of the story is that weed isn't a cure all for everything and you've got to know when to stop if it doesn't benefit you anymore.

With all that being said I've given up smoking for a bit until I can get my mind and body straight again. When these flare ups started happening is when I normally would have started up my seedlings for my next grow but I decided to take it easy and just not rush anything and I am glad I did. Ironically our landlord passed away this last weekend and now his family is in control of everything. I get a steal for paying rent and he should have raised it a long time ago and just never did. I'm talking like I pay half of what we should be paying. He was cool with me growing but not all leasers are even though it is legal here. So now the family wants to come down and inspect the place and hopefully it won't be right away so I can get a good finish on the GSC. The DTF comes down in a couple days. I'm a little nervous about the Tangerine Dream though. I plan to only have that going by the time they come inspect and I can let them know it'll be done in a few weeks and then I'll be done growing, but if they aren't cool with it and we still want to rent from them, well lets just say hopefully they don't make me chop it down early. It's the best thing I've ever grown and I really want it to finish out.

Where does that leave this journal then? Well I am only on a break and I am sure once I get healthy again I'll be back to smoking. The truth of the matter is I have to let the cards fall where they may for actually growing though. There will be a lot of things that are out of my control if I will be able to grow or not. We may have to move and I'm not 100% sure if I will have to rent or I can buy a house. I was really planning on continuing to save money for about another year and then I could buy a good house and not have to start with some piece of junk. If the new leasers don't want me to grow but will still give me a good rent deal then I probably have to take a break from growing. If they charge me an arm and a leg (which they could, the area I live in is booming and houses are worth twice as much as they did when I first started renting here) then I will likely have to go rent somewhere else and most leasers don't want grows going on in their property even though it's legal. A lot of situations that I've played out in my head basically point to me having to take a break from growing until I buy my first house. Luckily the Multi-Strain tent I will be able to finish out for this journal and I am really hoping I'll get to finish out the Tangerine Dream and not have to pull it early so I intend to finish this journal with that.

I'm hoping I don't have to cut it short but either way I will be done journaling when the Tangerine Dream is done. I will likely still be around to check on people but won't be running a journal of my own for a while. If somehow I am wrong then it is probably time to start over anyways due to how long and intimidating this journal is now for newer growers. There is a lot of good information here but it can be very hard to find. In a way it all is working out pretty well. It'd have been a bummer if I started some plants a couple weeks ago and then I just had to scrap them. I will have plenty of meds to get me through the summer and who knows how long this break will be for me in terms of not smoking. I've just had too much stress and I can't keep smoking if it makes things worse and not better. I like to think weed can solve almost anything but you have to know your limits and even though stress is the main cause of these panic attacks, weed is the trigger and sometimes you just gotta do what you gotta do to be healthy. I've also cut down considerably the amount of work I am committing to and making sure I eat and drink better but really I am a pretty in shape and healthy person. Sometimes your body just can't handle what we load on to it and you have to know when to walk away for a bit. I hesitated a bit by telling you all my personal details but I think people need to know that there are times that this fine drug can work against you and that we all need to know when to take breaks and that it isn't a 100% cure all to everything. I can't wait to get back to smoking but every time I've had an attack it's been right after smoking and I don't want to smoke and sit and wonder if an attack is going to come on or not. It just isn't worth it. I could probably use a break anyways, it's very rare in the last 15 years that I haven't smoked or consumed some form of THC daily. It also ended up being a blessing with the recent passing of our leaser and the timing and uncertainty of things.

With that not so great news I just wanted to say that I am thankful for all of the support that everyone who follows me has always given me. It can be a bit stressful at times to be following so many journals to help and answer questions but the people in this community are awesome and I just wanted to see people succeed with a training method that I think more people should know about. I will still be around to answer questions when this journal wraps up and people can tag me in their posts so I can find people that need help quickly but I doubt I'll be on here daily once I wrap this journal up. We've still got a few weeks left so this isn't the end but I've made my decision and I think it's the right thing to do. I've been doing journals for 4 years now and it will be definitely weird not having one but I'll be back! I just don't when yet. Could be in a few months and could be in a year or two. Too many things are up in the air to tell. The one thing I can say though is that I intend to go out with a bang with my Tangerine Dream. Hopefully it will be one of those "mic drop" moments when she finishes out. One of those unforgettable plants that people talk about for a while.

It makes me a little sad to have to announce all this but sometimes that is just life and I know I'll be back when I can! Lets make the last few weeks of this journal fun and ending on a high note and I really do appreciate all of you who tune in and have stuck with me. These forums are the best out there and this community is amazing and I'll only be gone as long as I have to be!
 
Really sorry to hear about your health issue Ase. With all of my health issues I feel I can definitely relate. The heart is no joke - and you most definitely need to listen to your body. Hopefully you get whatever medical care you need and bounce back stronger.

I've taken extended breaks a few times in the past - I took long breaks when I had my kids for example. There are things about the breaks that you'll definitely enjoy. You'll get the craving to smoke but it'll fade.

I know you'd started to think about growing some CBD strains in the future - I think it'd be interesting for you to explore those more when you're ready to come back.

Hopefully everything works out for the best with your lessors. It would be a real shame to see you have to cut the Tangerine Dream short. It really is beasting. My whole plan is to go out with a bang with my next round of flowering plants - since I'll likely be shutting down for some indeterminate period at that point myself. So I can relate. I hope you get your chance and that your break from growing isn't a forced one.

I can't help but think the pressure you allude to in keeping up with yours and other journals could play a part in all of this too. 420 is hugely rewarding, but can be stressful when you invest in it. Take whatever break from it or tone down your presence to whatever extent you need to - I'm sure it'll help with reducing your overall anxiety.

Your journal has been a staple as long as I've been coming here. It'll definitely feel weird not to see one around. I almost take it for granted. You're obviously a distinguished guest in any journal I run... so as long as you are sticking around here, stop by and visit any time.

Best of luck in getting well, and you know how to get me so reach out any time.
 
Sorry to hear those details about your health Ase. Hope you get things in check quickly as our health is nothing to take for granted.
I'm sure your big girl will leave this journal with a great ending. Thanks for all you've done over the years for this great site. Sometimes I think we take all the great growers for granted and don't show them the thanks that they deserve. I'm stopping now to do just that and say thank you for all you do and have done with the helping and coaching. Please stop by my journal at anytime if for nothing else to let us know how things are going for ya and maybe to shake me up a little for an update. It's guys like you that make this a great community that I'm proud to be part of.
Please take care and don't say goodbye just leave it as later.
Derbybud
 
Whatever you decide to do just know that we're here for you. I know what you're going through, my hiatus with the move and recent heart issues has been hard. Now to close your grow with a bang and make it over the top!
 
Thanks for sharing Ase, it's hard to give up something that you're so passionate about, but health comes first!

I appreciate all the advice and great journaling as a new grower they were fantastic.

Hopefully this will pass for you and you will be able to resume medicating at a level you enjoy.

Can't wait to see TD finish up!
 
Ase you are a wise man in getting yourself right first. Your gal is going to make it to the end with class. Keep moving forward my friend.
 
Wow man sorry to hear about those bad news! From everything I ve read you seem to be very spiritual and now how to face things. Let s just wait before thinking and fearing to much as you said. Like you mentioned in a way, things happen for a reason. I also really hope you ll be able to finish the TD which is a true work of art! I also send you some love and hope everything will be alright for you
 
Sorry to hear about your health issues Ase. Good for you for taking the time to take care of yourself. Sounds like you might be a ‘burn the candle at both ends’ type and hopefully some rest and recovery will help you get to feeling better. Yoga has been a really good helper for me to deal with the panic attacks. Not for everyone of course, but I thought I’d at least say it to you. Good luck and take care, we will be here quadlining in your honor until you’re ready to return. As the others already said, hopefully you get to finish out TD properly, but no matter what, she’s a beauty and an inspiration.
 
Ase, sorry to hear about your health issues. Best of luck in the recovery and the issue with the landlord's family. Take care of yourself man....thats always the most important thing we can do for ourselves. Let us know if you need anything!
 
Thanks to all you for the concern and reaching out. You guys are the best! I've already noticed some big changes in how I feel over the last week since I started taking care of myself better. I have 100% confidence I'll be feeling back to normal in the near future. This may be an online community but the people behind the avatars are real and I appreciate all the support during this time for me! Super excited to get an update up for the Tangie here in the next couple days. It'll include a DTF harvest as well!
 
Asesino85 said:
Ase's Update

Already some of you are probably scratching your head at the title of this post. Normally it says what day I am on or what tent or plant I am focusing on but this post is just about me. There won't be any cool pictures to look at or massive plants so if that's all you are into then you will be thoroughly disappointed. However, for those that care a little more then that then read on. I will try to make this as short as I can.

6-7 years ago I landed myself in the hospital with what I thought was some sort of complication to my heart. That area was really tight and my heart was beating like crazy and I was freaking out. Luckily my roommates mother was a nurse and she talked to me on the phone and told me I really need to go to the hospital so I did. They ran a number of tests on me and everything in terms of the heart looked ok but because my work is physical I had some things out of place and it pushed against nerves in that area and that is what caused that sensation. It was pretty freaky and I honestly thought I was going to have a heart attack and die.

Lately I have been having the same thing happen again and it has happened multiple times. At first I thought it may just be that I am freaking out and getting too high and not being able to talk myself down from it but I've been a heavy weed smoker for 15+ years. I don't get as high as I used to get ever. Long story short I discovered that these things I have been having are panic attacks and they are as bad as they can get. I've talked to people about it and many people say that they've had them and they get all shaky and stuff but this is way more intense then that. They've lasted hours and you just feel like any second you could die. I'm a pretty mentally strong person and I just never thought I would have complications like this but lately I've been working way too many hours and not taking care of myself. The crappy part is that weed has been the trigger in all of these situations. Generally I smoke to just relax and take the edge off. I've always had issues with anxiety and it's always helped but lately it hasn't, in fact it's just pushed me over the edge a few times to where I have these panic attacks. Even when I've come down off of the high I still am going through the panic attack so it doesn't go away once I've come down. Moral of the story is that weed isn't a cure all for everything and you've got to know when to stop if it doesn't benefit you anymore.

With all that being said I've given up smoking for a bit until I can get my mind and body straight again. When these flare ups started happening is when I normally would have started up my seedlings for my next grow but I decided to take it easy and just not rush anything and I am glad I did. Ironically our landlord passed away this last weekend and now his family is in control of everything. I get a steal for paying rent and he should have raised it a long time ago and just never did. I'm talking like I pay half of what we should be paying. He was cool with me growing but not all leasers are even though it is legal here. So now the family wants to come down and inspect the place and hopefully it won't be right away so I can get a good finish on the GSC. The DTF comes down in a couple days. I'm a little nervous about the Tangerine Dream though. I plan to only have that going by the time they come inspect and I can let them know it'll be done in a few weeks and then I'll be done growing, but if they aren't cool with it and we still want to rent from them, well lets just say hopefully they don't make me chop it down early. It's the best thing I've ever grown and I really want it to finish out.

Where does that leave this journal then? Well I am only on a break and I am sure once I get healthy again I'll be back to smoking. The truth of the matter is I have to let the cards fall where they may for actually growing though. There will be a lot of things that are out of my control if I will be able to grow or not. We may have to move and I'm not 100% sure if I will have to rent or I can buy a house. I was really planning on continuing to save money for about another year and then I could buy a good house and not have to start with some piece of junk. If the new leasers don't want me to grow but will still give me a good rent deal then I probably have to take a break from growing. If they charge me an arm and a leg (which they could, the area I live in is booming and houses are worth twice as much as they did when I first started renting here) then I will likely have to go rent somewhere else and most leasers don't want grows going on in their property even though it's legal. A lot of situations that I've played out in my head basically point to me having to take a break from growing until I buy my first house. Luckily the Multi-Strain tent I will be able to finish out for this journal and I am really hoping I'll get to finish out the Tangerine Dream and not have to pull it early so I intend to finish this journal with that.

I'm hoping I don't have to cut it short but either way I will be done journaling when the Tangerine Dream is done. I will likely still be around to check on people but won't be running a journal of my own for a while. If somehow I am wrong then it is probably time to start over anyways due to how long and intimidating this journal is now for newer growers. There is a lot of good information here but it can be very hard to find. In a way it all is working out pretty well. It'd have been a bummer if I started some plants a couple weeks ago and then I just had to scrap them. I will have plenty of meds to get me through the summer and who knows how long this break will be for me in terms of not smoking. I've just had too much stress and I can't keep smoking if it makes things worse and not better. I like to think weed can solve almost anything but you have to know your limits and even though stress is the main cause of these panic attacks, weed is the trigger and sometimes you just gotta do what you gotta do to be healthy. I've also cut down considerably the amount of work I am committing to and making sure I eat and drink better but really I am a pretty in shape and healthy person. Sometimes your body just can't handle what we load on to it and you have to know when to walk away for a bit. I hesitated a bit by telling you all my personal details but I think people need to know that there are times that this fine drug can work against you and that we all need to know when to take breaks and that it isn't a 100% cure all to everything. I can't wait to get back to smoking but every time I've had an attack it's been right after smoking and I don't want to smoke and sit and wonder if an attack is going to come on or not. It just isn't worth it. I could probably use a break anyways, it's very rare in the last 15 years that I haven't smoked or consumed some form of THC daily. It also ended up being a blessing with the recent passing of our leaser and the timing and uncertainty of things.

With that not so great news I just wanted to say that I am thankful for all of the support that everyone who follows me has always given me. It can be a bit stressful at times to be following so many journals to help and answer questions but the people in this community are awesome and I just wanted to see people succeed with a training method that I think more people should know about. I will still be around to answer questions when this journal wraps up and people can tag me in their posts so I can find people that need help quickly but I doubt I'll be on here daily once I wrap this journal up. We've still got a few weeks left so this isn't the end but I've made my decision and I think it's the right thing to do. I've been doing journals for 4 years now and it will be definitely weird not having one but I'll be back! I just don't when yet. Could be in a few months and could be in a year or two. Too many things are up in the air to tell. The one thing I can say though is that I intend to go out with a bang with my Tangerine Dream. Hopefully it will be one of those "mic drop" moments when she finishes out. One of those unforgettable plants that people talk about for a while.

It makes me a little sad to have to announce all this but sometimes that is just life and I know I'll be back when I can! Lets make the last few weeks of this journal fun and ending on a high note and I really do appreciate all of you who tune in and have stuck with me. These forums are the best out there and this community is amazing and I'll only be gone as long as I have to be!
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I’m sorry to hear of your struggles Ase! I’ve had a few close friends have the same thing happen recently actually and you absolutely right when you need to take a step back and slow down a bit!

I hope you all the best with your health.

I wish your renting situation goes smoothly and it all works out well!

Stay Blessed and Stay well my friend!
 
DobeWan said:
I know you'd started to think about growing some CBD strains in the future - I think it'd be interesting for you to explore those more when you're ready to come back.
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I will for sure be exploring more of these strains. I still have a grip of the CBDream that my girlfriend grew and it has been fantastic. I still haven't made my topicals with it but that should be happening in the next couple weeks. I still will have a jar or two left after that as CBD is supposed to help more with the anti-anxiety. THC really is the culprit in making anxiety worse. I will heavily be doing more research on CBD strains here during my break.

Heavenly Hybrid said:
Sounds like you might be a ‘burn the candle at both ends’ type and hopefully some rest and recovery will help you get to feeling better. Yoga has been a really good helper for me to deal with the panic attacks. Not for everyone of course, but I thought I’d at least say it to you.
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Well you nailed the "burn the candle at both ends" type. Both my girlfriend and I are like that and we both agreed we just need to be a little more selfish going forward. She's been pretty worn out lately too. Speaking of my girl, she had immediately told me she thinks we need to do yoga. I pretty much have a full gym in my garage with a TV and mats and everything so with the weather warming up now in the PNW, I think I'm going to give it a shot. Plus I do a lot of repetitive lifting in both my jobs so yoga would naturally just make me feel better. Thanks for the suggestion!
 
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