Applegate's 1st Grow - Tangerine Dream & Jack Herer

Day 69 since flip.

The deed is done! I cut the top 2/3 of the plant and am letting the branches on the bottom stay on the plant to see if they mature a little more. I took most of the foilage off the selected Tangerine Dream yesterday - it took the both of us working for a little over three hours to trim the buds for hanging. We got a nice little ball of scissor hash.

I decided that the trim taken yesterday probably wouldn't yield much so....I gave it to the chickens! They LOVED it. The trim from this morning is the real deal and I'll dry it out and then screen it.

This was a fair amount of work but it was pleasant work. Three more plants to go...let the good times roll!


With the top 2/3 of the plant gone and the bottom branches trussed up she's sitting at about 33"

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Here they are - that which I've been waiting for. GRASBAUER! No good pictures of trichomes. I have a camera with limited capability but sometimes if I'm steady and the light is just right I can blow up the photo and get decent images. Didn't work out today but examination through the loupe showed that all most all of the trichs were milky - a few amber and a few clear. There was a lot of amber on the sugar leaves but I'm told that isn't unusual.

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The total weight of the trimmed wet material came to 1 pound, 6 3/4 oz. I'm hoping that once dried and removed from the stems I have 3 - 4 oz of bud. Do you think that's realistic? I don't think that's too bad for 2/3 of a plant on a first grow.

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We'll see how the drying chambers work. I couldn't think of any other way to keep them in darkness as I have to dry in the grow room because that's where I have the air filters. The girls smell to high heaven. The RH is staying in the 30-35% range in the room so I'm hoping I don't have to contend with mold. After they hang for a some number of days I'll remove the stems and let the buds continue to dry a couple of more days on screens before starting the cure.

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MaxHeadroom said:
Lovely bud porn. I'd be very interested in seeing both wet and dry weight because (fingers crossed) I should be in this position in about 10 weeks. I've not yet seen a wet vs dry comparison.
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Absolutely, Max! I've read that you lose about 75% of your wet weight in the drying process. I've got all the stems on the scale too so that's got to be factored in. I'll weigh them once I take the branches off and then again when I start to cure. And for sure, I'll announce the results, both for you and for the science of cannabis!
 
applegate said:
Absolutely, Max! I've read that you lose about 75% of your wet weight in the drying process. I've got all the stems on the scale too so that's got to be factored in. I'll weigh them once I take the branches off and then again when I start to cure. And for sure, I'll announce the results, both for you and for the science of cannabis!
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That would be spiffing! I did a search just after writing about wet vs dry weight but couldn't find anything. You got reps just for offering - there'll be more once the weights are announced. 75% seems a lot but I see what you mean about the stalks. I could have seen me skipping around if I got a 4oz wet total from my 3 girls then being crestfallen when it came out at 1oz. At least with some guidelines I won't be devastated at the difference :-)

Viva la science!
 
Nice finish bub, and yea they lose 75% of there weight. Its all water wait for the most part.
 
Jack Herer - 115 days from seed, 72 days in flower, 1 day from chop.

Denuded poor Little Jack in preparation for harvest tomorrow. I found 6 nanners on her the other night which led me to expedite my harvest plans as from what I've read, nanners in late flower are a sign of ripeness and are often the product of a last gasp on the part of the plant to reproduce before its decline.

This plant was always the shorty in the bunch. At one point I measured her at 5'2" but today she's more like 4'10". Both the Jacks are crazy frosty and the trichs are full, milky and barely tinged with amber. I hope I haven't let her go too late!

The odor is very piney/woody with a layer of lemon and sweet earth. It is a smell that is at once both familiar and foreign. It doesn't smell like any weed I've ever smelled before but I think it is superior to the smell of the Tangerines.

In any case - I'll provide a quick post-havest update tomorrow.


As with the Tangerine, I left the bottom branches and will truss them up after the top of the plant is taken to put a little more mileage on the buds that were shaded.

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I love how the flash on the camera brings out the frost!

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This Jack really foxtailed. Some people are crazy about foxtailed buds and others not so much. I'm curious to see how they dry. They aren't beautiful but they sure are interesting to look at.

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One last question - the Jacks seem so ultra frosty and most of the little sugar leaves are loaded. Can I leave them on the bud or is that a bad practice that negatively affects the quality?
 
Missed 10 pages I'll have to go back and read later tonight, but I'm in for the finish at least. Fantastic pics and great looking girls you got there Applegate.

:goodjob:

:bravo:
 
Well done! Those Tangerine buds look very similar to the ones from my Auto version.
Plants can lose more than 75% during drying, it depends on the sort. My Arjan's Haze #3 lost 79% and another few percent during curing. For Crimea Blue, it was a bit less.
 
You'll find people on both sides of the sugar leaf fence. I like to trim mine up a bit. The trim makes for a nice treat while you are waiting on the rest to dry or cure.

Since this is your first I'd say trim it for the experience. Skip it next time if you are so inclined :)

I'm not sure how it would affect the burn. I vape. It might burn a little hotter perhaps?
 
grasbauer said:
Well done! Those Tangerine buds look very similar to the ones from my Auto version.
Plants can lose more than 75% during drying, it depends on the sort. My Arjan's Haze #3 lost 79% and another few percent during curing. For Crimea Blue, it was a bit less.
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Of course, when I started this grow I had no idea of what to expect as for as yield and then as the plants started taking off I started thinking that if lucky I might get 2 oz per plant. And then at some point during gardening madness I was seized with the idea I might get a pound from a 4 plant garden. That seems like a crazy high amount and I'll probably fall short but I'm shooting for it anyway!
 
It's possible. I pulled nearly a pound out of my 3 plant Auora Indica grow last year.

2, 4, 6, 10... you have some really high quality stuff in front of you. Yield will come.
 
Obi Wan said:
You'll find people on both sides of the sugar leaf fence. I like to trim mine up a bit. The trim makes for a nice treat while you are waiting on the rest to dry or cure.
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Hey Obi! Trimming the Tangerine was more of a no-brainer because the sugar leaves were not nearly as trichome coated so I trimmed them close and carefully. The some of Little Jacks buds are positively jammy. Perhaps I should give the real gooey ones a lighter trim and give the rest a Brazilian. Sounds like another fun compare and contrast exercise.
 
I haven’t checked in on your journal in a while and I’m blown away! Your plants got hugeee! Also, I need to step my photo skills up because your photos make mine look horrible lol. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the yield exceeds your expectations! :thumb:
 
Hey Applegate, I'll be able to answer your questions you had about my curing process as soon as I get to the house. My phone isn't the best lol.
 
arteekay said:
Missed 10 pages I'll have to go back and read later tonight, but I'm in for the finish at least. Fantastic pics and great looking girls you got there Applegate.
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Thank you for your kind comments RTK! Getting to the finish line is a mixture of excitement and relief. It's like my veggie gardens - I spend the season coaxing growth, love the process of watching development and thrill at the first harvest and then I wake up one day and itch to take a machete to them.
 
My curing process
Room temp: 60-63(I personally never go higher,but it can be 60-70)
Room humidity: 45-55%(I never go below 45 or higher than 60%,55-60 is were mine stay)Staying below 40% will promote drying & we're curing.
Air movement: fan on the floor directly below my hanging bud, but never blowing on my buds what so ever. Basically just use commonsense and place your fans where you think they will move air the best without blowing on any of your hanging branches.
Time hanging: varies on how big the buds are. Could take a week or 3-4 weeks.

I have no need to cure in a jar using this process. Curing is the process done before drying. You will notice within about 3 days your buds going from dark green to a lighter shade, and you will notice all the other nice pigments too. Like the red,yellow, & purple highlights. Its very important to keep your humidity regulated to 45-55. 40% or lower will promote drying and stops the curing process. My buds stay hanging on the branches till they're completely done curing/drying. Same conditions from the 1st day I hang them. Ed Rosenthal has a really nice write up on this very process. I hope this helps applegate. Im not the best when it comes to explaining things, so I hope I didn't talk in circles lol

One more little tid bit. If you only have a small amount big paper bags can be used. Like the ones from the grocery store. Just never stack them any higher than 3 layers. The paper bag actually slows down evaporation, so they have more time to cure. Keep the bags open
 
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