Wastei
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I'm saying were not able to grow anything other than Autos outdoors where I'm at and that's what they were initially bred for?
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Then you should grow autos outdoors! I have no idea what they were initially bred for, but unless you're consistently pulling 6+oz off each and every outdoor plant, I think it's safe to say they do better in a controlled environment.
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I thought I'd show you how different the RR1 is from RR2. Here is RR1, still showing a pistil here and there, but in no particular hurry to flower yet. I have high hopes for this plant.
I trained the one strong third node branch out a bit with a pipe cleaner, so that the node 2 branches could catch up in height. I left the weak branch and I'm pleased to see that the little twig of a branch has morphed into a normal looking branch which will now get the pipe cleaner treatment.
I trained the one strong third node branch out a bit with a pipe cleaner, so that the node 2 branches could catch up in height. I left the weak branch and I'm pleased to see that the little twig of a branch has morphed into a normal looking branch which will now get the pipe cleaner treatment.
Good morning, Carmen.
For the RR2, could topping it again slow down the flowering? Like what would happen if you cut all the flowers off? If you drop another seed, maybe you could experiment with this one?
And, I love your pretty pink nails.
For the RR2, could topping it again slow down the flowering? Like what would happen if you cut all the flowers off? If you drop another seed, maybe you could experiment with this one?
And, I love your pretty pink nails.
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Hi HG, this plant is only 6 inches tall, so cutting it to produce more tops is likely to create more of a tight space for the flowers to develop. I also think that the flowering is too advanced to disturb. I might be wrong but I just feel like I must leave well enough alone. I dropped a Blueberry seed already and now the wait for it to sprout.
I have Chocodope that I'm dying to try but being sativa, that takes longer to flower and I don't want to put my time out for the Canuk comparative grow.The pressure is on to harvest the two Red Russians by end Nov/ first week Dec, and the Blueberry by end Dec. That will make space for two Northern Lights x Big Bud which I should get going mid-Nov to meet the December deadline.
Thank you very muchAnd, I love your pretty pink nails.
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Good morning,
Today I managed to get some training hooks onto the little branches. They are both odd little plants. RR1 has a variegation and one weak third node branch, with a double headed second node branch, and some crumpled leaves. It is an otherwise healthy plant that looks set to go the distance. I opened up the early flowering RR2 and I hope there will be at least some stretch.
Here they are this morning.
Today I managed to get some training hooks onto the little branches. They are both odd little plants. RR1 has a variegation and one weak third node branch, with a double headed second node branch, and some crumpled leaves. It is an otherwise healthy plant that looks set to go the distance. I opened up the early flowering RR2 and I hope there will be at least some stretch.
Here they are this morning.
Nice colour you have there 
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Thanks Absorber. This new soil seems to be a lot better. The RR2 has some leaf tips curling down which is not a good sign, but I think that is probably part of the plants innate weakness rather than too much N. I wonderNice colour you have there
Wastei
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Leaf clawing, glossy leaves and green shade turning to blue means to hot sauce ie too much N.Thanks Absorber. This new soil seems to be a lot better. The RR2 has some leaf tips curling down which is not a good sign, but I think that is probably part of the plants innate weakness rather than too much N. I wonder
Cheers!
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Thank you Wastei. I am aware of that. As I said, I think it is the plant's innate weakness. The plants are treated identically. Cheers!
Wastei
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I thinks it's better to try to improve on your methods and understanding where you're falling short and where there's room for improvement instead of saying a plant is innate weak? The only thing you can do to improve the situation is to better your understanding and methodology?
Almost every new grower are overfeeding their plants. It's especially easy in your situation where you don't have an optimal lighting and environment situation and you need to dial everything way down to not overfeed. If you follow recommendations on the bottles you're more than certainly overfeeding.
All the best! Cheers!
The Red Russians are coming along nicely Carmen!
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I'm not a new grower and I am working with autos, which you say you know nothing about. I am also an organic grower and I am using pre-packaged cannabis soil which is identical in both pots. I know for a fact that this plant is innately weak, as I am growing it and I can see it grow and compare it to my previous grows.
Gee64
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Hey Carmen,
The Gals are looking very well trained
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Heres a nitrogen tip for organics.
Nitrogen, sooner or later, and usually around the 30 day mark, releases from its bindings and you quite often experience "The Claw".
Nitrogen requires water to work, so excess nitrogen requires excess water. Its how proteins are processed, and proteins are pure nitrogen, its what greens compost down into, so if you see the claw, dry them out a fair bit for 7-10 days and you should see them lighten a bit, and new growth wont be clawed.
It happens in new soil because calcium and magnesium are struggling with each other to find the perfect ratios. Calcium moves better in the soil so after 5 or 6 waterings it fully mixes with magnesium and releases magnesiums grip on the soil.
Prior to magnesium becoming balanced, its locked to nitrogen on a 1 to 1 ratio for every molecule of magnesium that hasn't yet interfaced with calcium.
So in real life, about a month in you give them their 1st real deep full saturating waterings as the roots are now formed, and Bam! that nitrogen gets released all at once.
If you look at most of my past grows you will see a line of lower fans in almost every picture, that are clawed.
I look at it as a sign of success. When I see it I know its time to dry the soil a bit and start cranking up photosynthesis. It means your soil is ready.
You will likely see a good growth spurt now, it usually follows the claw if you dial the H2O back a bit on that pot for a week or so.
The Gals are looking very well trained
. Heres a nitrogen tip for organics.
Nitrogen, sooner or later, and usually around the 30 day mark, releases from its bindings and you quite often experience "The Claw".
Nitrogen requires water to work, so excess nitrogen requires excess water. Its how proteins are processed, and proteins are pure nitrogen, its what greens compost down into, so if you see the claw, dry them out a fair bit for 7-10 days and you should see them lighten a bit, and new growth wont be clawed.
It happens in new soil because calcium and magnesium are struggling with each other to find the perfect ratios. Calcium moves better in the soil so after 5 or 6 waterings it fully mixes with magnesium and releases magnesiums grip on the soil.
Prior to magnesium becoming balanced, its locked to nitrogen on a 1 to 1 ratio for every molecule of magnesium that hasn't yet interfaced with calcium.
So in real life, about a month in you give them their 1st real deep full saturating waterings as the roots are now formed, and Bam! that nitrogen gets released all at once.
If you look at most of my past grows you will see a line of lower fans in almost every picture, that are clawed.
I look at it as a sign of success. When I see it I know its time to dry the soil a bit and start cranking up photosynthesis. It means your soil is ready.
You will likely see a good growth spurt now, it usually follows the claw if you dial the H2O back a bit on that pot for a week or so.
Looking fine here Carm! Nice color to them!
Wastei
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Can you please elaborate? I'm only here to help and learn like everyone else? I'm however not here to tap any backs with an empty smile and ignore giving pointers and help where I see help is needed?This also seems like great advice on how to talk to people respectfully....
I believe being true and straight to the point helps better in the long run but I understand if some people think I'm a total asshole. More love to the haters who doesn't understand me or why I'm on this forum. Many are very sensitive these days and you don't seem to be allowed to use free speech without hurting anyone's feelings even if you only have good intentions, acting civil and being respectful?
People seek reasons to be the victim and I don't understand where's the gain in that mentality?
Cheers!
Flat as a pancake! I was wondering if leaving the flowering one au naturel rather than flattening it would give you a chance to see the difference in cola length in the end. I think you mentioned something earlier about when to stop training them.
I'm wondering too. Hoping you get another beastly beauty like the one I saw. Those were some thick buds.
I know with photos you can sometimes (sometimes) delay flowering outdoors by topping or pruning heavily. Only by a week or so and again , not always. The weed gods have to align the weather and lighting properly.
Not sure I would do that to an auto though. Unless you absolutely hate having long fat buds. I mean, I don't but, I'm just saying.
Did you catch the cricket yesterday. What a game.
Have a good one
I know with photos you can sometimes (sometimes) delay flowering outdoors by topping or pruning heavily. Only by a week or so and again , not always. The weed gods have to align the weather and lighting properly.
Not sure I would do that to an auto though. Unless you absolutely hate having long fat buds. I mean, I don't but, I'm just saying.
Did you catch the cricket yesterday. What a game.
Have a good one