Another Tabletop Crop: Carmen's Spring Grow With Vipar Spectra XS 1500 Pro

[NickHardy]

I have trimmed a couple of nugs. I need one for the contest since I smoked the one I was gonna enter

Maybe I should do that myself.

& Co will only take it off me and tell me its not good enough though!

My eye too, still a bit fuzzy from the fubar with the spotlight last week. Eye Surgeon Uncle reckons another week.

(Good at excuses me, eh? )

 

[ViparSpectra]

Some shots from the outside garden.

Red Russian XXL auto 2

• Carmen Ray
• Nov 9, 2023
• red russian xxl auto

Day 66, flower day 39

Red Russian XXL auto 2

• Carmen Ray
• Nov 9, 2023
• red russian xxl auto

Day 66, flower day 39

Red Russian XXL auto 2

• Carmen Ray
• Nov 9, 2023
• red russian xxl auto

Day 66, flower day 39

Red Russian XXL auto 2

• Carmen Ray
• Nov 9, 2023
• red russian xxl auto

Day 66, flower day 39

Beautiful as always.

 

[InTheShed]

The young ones are looking perfectly happy and I'm glad you're letting the outside one go longer. Is it done drinking?

 

[Carmen Ray]

The young ones are looking perfectly happy and I'm glad you're letting the outside one go longer. Is it done drinking?

Not quite yet. I tend to want to speed things up towards the end. I must exercise patience, thank you.

 

[Carmen Ray]

I have been trying to ignore this, hoping it will stop but there's been a slow spread. Any suggestions? TIA

 

[InTheShed]

Potassium?

Almost looks like a toxicity but don't see that much in LOS.

 

[NickHardy]

K for me, same as Shed.

Res Dog - Azi Leaf Ref

 

[Carmen Ray]

Potassium?

Almost looks like a toxicity but don't see that much in LOS.

K for me, same as Shed.

Res Dog - Azi Leaf Ref

Idk. I think it looks like classic nute burn to me. Potassium deficiency is a yellowing of the leaf margins before browning. These leaves aren't yellowing first, and seem to be burnt in slightly different place to where the marks occur in the pics showing potassium deficiency.

I have a couple of friends that usually advise that I flush if something like this shows up. They would likely say that it indicates a ph issue, caused by the micro herd. More than that I do not remember. Could this be an issue do you think?

 

[InTheShed]

Potassium deficiency is a yellowing of the leaf margins before browning.

That's why I went with toxicity. Are you supplementing with anything that has K?

 

[Carmen Ray]

That's why I went with toxicity. Are you supplementing with anything that has K?

This is my feeding chart. The last time I supplemented anything was 29th and 31 Oct.

Nourish Plant Food by Talborne Organics is 4-1-6.

 

[InTheShed]

Why? Did the last grow with this soil show N or K deficiencies?

 

[NickHardy]

Why? Did the last grow with this soil show N or K deficiencies?

Isn't it a new soil? First time out?

You'll note I said K and am sitting on the fence tox or def! 'Cause mostly it'd be quite hard I would have thought to get it late on, in organic, but then I didn't know there were amendments added.

 

[Carmen Ray]

Why? Did the last grow with this soil show N or K deficiencies?

Isn't it a new soil? First time out?

You'll note I said K and am sitting on the fence tox or def! 'Cause mostly it'd be quite hard I would have thought to get it late on, in organic, but then I didn't know there were amendments added.

It's my first grow in this soil. No, I don't know what I am doing clearly. I thought calmag would prevent calcium deficiency developing from the light intensity. I thought that giving sugars in bloom was a good thing. It was 13 days ago the last time a supplement was given. The bottle says to give it every 14 days.

 

[NickHardy]

No, I don't know what I am doing clearly.

I don't think anyone is suggesting that, least of all me! Its just dialling in a new soil and amendments!

EDIT - If next time out is due tomorrow maybe that leans to deficiency? Maybe every 7 days, but yeah watch and wait. If its tox it will stop. If its def its gonna get worse?

 

[InTheShed]

If you believe in your soil and this is your first time through, I don't think adding anything is a good idea until you see the plant talking to you. And 4-1-6 is not sugar. Molasses is sugar! And even that shouldn't be needed in well built soil.

 

[Carmen Ray]

I don't think anyone is suggesting that, least of all me! Its just dialling in a new soil and amendments!

I am suggesting this. I really don't know what I am doing. I am trying to understand complex organic processes and failing.

If you believe in your soil and this is your first time through, I don't think adding anything is a good idea until you see the plant talking to you. And 4-1-6 is not sugar. Molasses is sugar! And even that shouldn't be needed in well built soil.

I was advised to add Seagro and Bloom. I substituted the Nourish for the Bloom. Someone told me that the Nourish is just sugars. I literally do not know what I am working with.

I will continue with plain water and hope it goes away, as I have done for the past two weeks. I don't know if that is the right thing or not.

 

[InTheShed]

If you see a calcium deficiency you would add calcium, or cal-mag if that's all you have, but I would suggest you don't add anything to a grow (LOS or otherwise) unless you're trying to repair damage.

Particularly if you're trying to see if you're new soil works as advertised.

 

[NickHardy]

I am trying to understand complex organic processes and failing

Buck up! You haven't spectacularly killed a plant in a day recently! Like you say, they're complex, and doesn't seem like you're missing too much!

Your friend,

Nick

 

[InTheShed]

Buck up! You haven't spectacularly killed a plant in a day recently! Like you say, they're complex, and doesn't seem like you're missing too much!

Your friend,

Nick

If that was fusarium like your farmer said then you haven't killed a plant either!

 

[Carmen Ray]

If you see a calcium deficiency you would add calcium, or cal-mag if that's all you have, but I would suggest you don't add anything to a grow (LOS or otherwise) unless you're trying to repair damage.

Particularly if you're trying to see if you're new soil works as advertised.

Otter is giving his plants calmag before he sees a deficiency. That is what I was trying to do too. I was of the understanding that powerful lights create the need for supplementary calcium and that you give it proactively.

The soil is not advertised as a water only soil. I was told by the people who sold it to me, to use Seagro in veg, and Bloom in flower. I don't know how either product works, other than the one is fish emulsion and seaweed, and the other I have no idea.

It's worth noting that the other plant is not showing the same problem and it is in the same soil, treated in the same way. The only differences are the light and the phenotype.