AKGramma's Perpetual Grow

Checked on my ladies in veg. They are under 16/8.

The single Cream Caramel Auto is all of 6" tall, but being only 31 days old, is showing preflowers! I tied her down to encourage branching. I hope she is not going to go right to flower. She's got plenty of root room in the tall kitchen trashy bin.

The Jock Horror Autos are growing fast, at 25 days old, putting out a lot of closely-spaced leaves, They are still babies at 2 inches tall.

The two remaining 3rd gen AK48 clones are healthy so far at 31 days, and I tied the second one down horizontal to encourage branching. Both her and her sister are 4 inches long. No signs of premature flowering, but they are fems, but not autos.

The 2 CBD Yummys at 78 days are def not autos, as they would have shown preflowers by now, even under veg. Their growth is rangy with thin stems. They are about 12 inches tall. I trimmed out the lower and inner branches to allow them to beef up. Already one needed to be supported with a stick, and both don't seem to have good supporting roots. They want to lean over, but I don't have the room for them to go horizontal. So both will be tied to a stake as they mature.
 
Random thought I posted on another journal:

IMO, those of us who have to grow indoors in a spare room at home are not going to get the monster colas that commercial growers get. We don't have the headroom. We don't have the finances to use high-powered light and the fancy, automated feeding systems.

They grow for looks, for the mass market. So they need to produce big nugs for the market. Smaller stuff is sold in prerolled joints. No one sees the trim and minibuds sold loose in baggies.

When I started growing for the family, the youngsters were under the impression that size and looks = high potency. I tried to prove that small, home grown buds can be just as potent.

On the other hand, I see on the 420 site that many home growers use their smaller buds for oils and edibles, since no one is going to see the larfy and small buds. Looks don't matter. Health of the plant does.

But this Old lady knows from experience one can get high on cannabis (buds, trim, leaves and pods) ground into herb and used liberally in cooking. ;-)
 
I started downsizing by selling one of my 4 Mars 300's to a family member who is in his first grow. It is a wonder to see how much joy he is receiving, as he lovingly nurtures his ladies.

I promised to sell him my second shelving unit, all set up, if I find I don't need it in 2018, too. it all depends if I am going to need it after this batch is harvested and I start a 2-plant grow. Grows tend to outgrow the space they start out in, in spite of our efforts to contain them.

:MoreNutes:
 
Sad to see I'm not the only one closing up shop. But I'll agree. When it isn't fun anymore....it's not worth it. I've missed so much of this journal, I'm not . why you're calling it quits Gramma, and I'm sorry to hear you're doing so. I'll definitely be keeping my eyes out for your next journal .
 
Alaskan420907 said:
Sad to see I'm not the only one closing up shop. But I'll agree. When it isn't fun anymore....it's not worth it. I've missed so much of this journal, I'm not . why you're calling it quits Gramma, and I'm sorry to hear you're doing so. I'll definitely be keeping my eyes out for your next journal .
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I'm not quitting, just down sizing. ;-) The effort, time, and $ to support a perpetual grow with 2 or 3 units/tents is too much for me physically and financially. So I will attempt, after this harvest, to grow only 2 plants from seed to harvest as a single crop, then start over with 2 more seeds, and so on.

I am optimistic that I can handle a straight crop of a couple plants, because I still have some fems left to pop.

Once I have to dip into my photo seeds, then I will sprout up to 4 and grind any males into cooking herbs. It's never a 50/50 gender outcome for me, and one strain a few grows ago, I got only one female out of 6 seeds.

Taking it one grow at a time, and going back to the basics.
 
Happiness is to see that my grandson is growing bigger and healthier ladies than I am! We planted autos at the same time and his are already 2 - 3 feet tall, and mine are a few inches! Whereas I have struggled the last 6 months, he is a natural.

:thumb:

Handwriting on the wall. I'll see now 2018 goes for me with a smaller, more manageable grow. I'm already considering selling half of my equipment to him, if I can keep the grow in one 3 x 3 shelving unit. He's anxious to take possession of it now, but I want to wait till this grow is harvested, to see if I need the extra unit for mature, blooming ladies.

Tead's booming ladies are leaf-to-leaf in his tent. I don't let them get that close. I might have to reconsider just how close I can grow them out to harvest. maybe a max of 5 to a 3' x 3'?

What do you think?
 
5 is a max if they are small. E

Edit.. sorry dog jumped on me....


If say 4 is a good number to shoot for personally and just makes them all more accessible
 
Always have enough room IF possible... Weed grows to allotted space FAST.. I know I don't follow threads as much as I should never learned to read,,,, but if I had one primary space to grow weed,, it's 4 plants in a 4X4 tent... If that's way outta line there My bad. The biggest problem most growers deal with is LACK of space. Better to have alittle extra than not enough.......... Hope ya'll have had a Great Holidays.
Keepem Green
 
AKgramma said:
Happiness is to see that my grandson is growing bigger and healthier ladies than I am! We planted autos at the same time and his are already 2 - 3 feet tall, and mine are a few inches! Whereas I have struggled the last 6 months, he is a natural.

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Tead's booming ladies are leaf-to-leaf in his tent. I don't let them get that close. I might have to reconsider just how close I can grow them out to harvest. maybe a max of 5 to a 3' x 3'?

What do you think?
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I think Tead's lost his friggin mind and none of his lower growth is getting proper light let alone the crossed branch upper blockage.
Don't do it.
Plus, Tead's tent is so full at the moment because he squeezed all his plants back inside due to the impending arctic chill (below freezing!!!).

I'm actually hoping to hand about 4 plants to a buddy today... tho he doesn't know it yet. Keep an eye on Brixnewb's thread... he may be sporting more NOLA genetics soon.

What magic does your grandson have going? Any thoughts on why his world is working better than yours? Seems some minor questions might lead to a revelation.
 
Tead said:
I think Tead's lost his friggin mind and none of his lower growth is getting proper light let alone the crossed branch upper blockage.
Don't do it.
Plus, Tead's tent is so full at the moment because he squeezed all his plants back inside due to the impending arctic chill (below freezing!!!).

I'm actually hoping to hand about 4 plants to a buddy today... tho he doesn't know it yet. Keep an eye on Brixnewb's thread... he may be sporting more NOLA genetics soon.

What magic does your grandson have going? Any thoughts on why his world is working better than yours? Seems some minor questions might lead to a revelation.
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better nutes, foliar feeding (which I dont do) feeding more often, using better reflecting material on the walls.

I notice that the Jock Horror auto in the corner is twice as big as her sisters, cause she's getting more reflection from both adjoining walls.
 
Well this may be Good! Like you said a smaller space may be what you need. More reflective surface to focus light! Just a thought. I still think your idea to re start small scale is a good idea. If you want to expand, i wouldn't go perpetual just increase the size of the space or add another plant. My 2 cents anyway. I was over eager to.go perpetual and kinda have neglected my veg girls...


The main reason I stopped it was just to say.... HAPPY NEW YEARS GRAMMA! wish you and your family all the best in 2018
 
well, it looks like my itsy-bitsy-teeny-weenie Cream Caramel Auto is heading to flower at only 7 inches tall. * sigh * And I had put her sprouted seed in a 14" tall bin to give her root room.

She's tied down, but I only see about 5 pair of small flowers on her. She DID flower two at each node, all the way down. I have to give her credit for that. Imagine if she had grown out to 4 feet!

There's one strain I won't look at again. Be warned Sue!
 
I don't see the CBD Yummys showing preflowers, and they are old enough to flower. So I guess they will go into the spare shelving unit under 12/12 to finish out. Their leaves are drying up and falling off, like they would if in late flower.

Time to let them finish.

That much more room for the 5 Jock Horror Autos and the last 2 AK 48 clones. Since the AK 48's are photo, I'm not going to veg them forever before the switch.
 
AKgramma said:
well, it looks like my itsy-bitsy-teeny-weenie Cream Caramel Auto is heading to flower at only 7 inches tall. * sigh * And I had put her sprouted seed in a 14" tall bin to give her root room.

She's tied down, but I only see about 5 pair of small flowers on her. She DID flower two at each node, all the way down. I have to give her credit for that. Imagine if she had grown out to 4 feet!

There's one strain I won't look at again. Be warned Sue!
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...seems You've been hit with a run of bad luck Gramma'...that sucks!...prolly a good idea to take a step back and regroup and concentrate on a small successful grow to reignite the passion...on ruling out a strain...I don't think I've grown a strain twice...yet...even though I have duplicate seeds, there's just so much out there to try...but..even though some strains were less than expected, I'll try them again at some point ...case in point...this past year was my first foray into auto's...first two were underwhelming, but OK...next I tried 2 Malawi auto's...one a runt that yielded a zip...the other, grown exactly the same...room, soil, lights, organic yielded 6 zips...the way I see it...the breeders or wannabe's play with the strains and release less than stable strains for the bucks, so its hit and miss for catching the right pheno...anyways...I'm rambling...wishing you a prosperous and Happy New Year...cheerz...h00k...
 
Californians ring in 2018 with new pot law

California's new recreational marijuana law went into effect at 12:01 a.m. Monday — a fact that some Californians were excited to celebrate.

Congrats to our CA friends!

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Happy New Year AKgramma. :hugs: It seems to go in cycles, doesn't it? That suggests that you're due for an upturn. I agree with the inclination to simplify. Every time I try that I end up planting too much again. :laughtwo:

It'll get better. It's nice to hear the grandson shows talent for the obsession. That's gotta make you feel good. :cheesygrinsmiley:
 
The 3 month old CBD Yummies just got put into the flower unit. Nice way to start the year., but I hope they keep enough leaves to make it to the end. There isn't any more in the way of new growth, and I see some more small branches dying off. Will give them another pruning down below.

Now, to rearrange what's left in veg. :MoreNutes:
 
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