AKGramma's Perpetual Grow

well, HELL'S BELLS! Remember Tritops, the mystery seed that sprouted three tops from it's cotyledons, and that I so tenderly nursed along? IT IS A FRELLING MALE!!!!!! Over the past 2 days, it put out a slender leader, and this morning it had a bunch of pods, all ready to sow its wild oats.

Seeing that it is definitely sativa, I trimmed the branch and put it in water. Why do I bother? IF I can get its pods to maturity, I want to cross it to one of my OGK clones.

As for the male BBL's, the largest male's pods withered and dropped into the bags and the plant was not growing any more leaves. No visible sign of pollen. So he got chopped and tossed this morning, as there was nothing left to salavage for cannabudder.

I have one immature male BBL clone and a Male BBL juvenile clone (both healthy). The juvenile is bagged, the other clone is happily stretching in the South window, even tho our days are well over 14 hours long now.

I lost 2 clones in the jars due to fungus, so I opened the top to lower the humidity some. One jar is full of rooted clones, and I will acclimate them to ambient RH, before I up-pot them.

The clones I up-potted earlier have spread their roots and are growing quickly.

I still think BBL#5 is a mis-labeled seed. It's very sativa, with heavily serrated leaves. I have nothing else that looks like it. It kept drinking up all its water every other day and wilting, so I up-potted it to its adult bin yesterday with a generous dose of MYKOS. It had a HUGE root mass! Know of any sativas that grow rapidly?

It spent the day in the window for some of Nature's sunlight and was put into the veg tent this morning.

I will post this now, go take a pic and add it ASAP.
 
OK. Here are the pics.

The first one is Tritops showing off his package(s).
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This one is the mislabeled seed. It LOOKS very sativa, but does not smell skunky. It was #5 of a bubblelicious pack. Looks NOTHING like BBL, or my old OGK strain. I'm going to have to try and identify it by smell. Both secondary branches are VERY bushy! Note the distinctive serrations on the leaf edges.

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When I went into the grow room to take pics, the room smelled exactly like bubblegum, even tho I also have OGK and a couple of unknown strains in veg.
 
I guess I better go remove Tritops from the flower closet. It was SUCH a pretty, full plant, I was very much hoping it was female.

Bummer! Male cannabis plants are good, in the natural order of things. In a small grow, when one is hoping for female plants... not so much.

I just started a grow. I've got feminized Kali Mist by Serious Seeds, some Barney's Farm freebies (many would say that's almost as much as they're worth, lol, but some have had good luck)... and regular Jack Herer by Sensi Seeds. I am almost hoping that one of the Jack Herer grows into a male. Although what I'd do with it to keep the pollen from fertilizing more than just a very small number of female flowers late in the grow where the act of seed production doesn't severely inhibit the production of cannabinoids, IDK. I mean, I know to keep it segregated and everything, lol - but my budget is sort of a negative number - and will stay that way, because when I get any extra (HA! ha ha ha ha ha) money, I don't take it to the grocery store to celebrate, I give it to my elderly mother so SHE can eat halfway decently. So... Here's to hope, lol! Assuming (that I get one and) it turns out to be a very well-behaved male - which I have no reason to doubt, as Ben Dronkers and company at Sensi Seeds have been doing their thing for a very long time - I might just park it on top of my medicine cabinet under the low-wattage CFL for a few months like I've done in the past with mother plants that I wished to have remain very small and tame, yet still live (and mature) and then pick off the resulting male "pre"flowers that will undoubtedly appear as the plant ages. I have kept females like that for over a year, watering them, err, when I remembered and feeding even more sporadically.

BtW, I hope you don't mind if I pop in once in a while. These days, I think I like reading about ultra-low-budget grows even more than I like reading about 2kW+ ones (I'll never personally experience the latter again, but the former might "occasionally" grace my life ;) ).
 
TS: WELCOME to my humble, and cheap grow! Yes! Let's compare notes, brainstorm, and see what we can learn from each other.

I am far from an expert, as I only got my first seeds on 3/21/2015. I do a min-perpetual grow, which means I only harvest 1 or 2 ladies at a time, so they have plenty of room in the 2 x 4 closet.

I am long since retired, so grow on a limited budget, but have lots of time to spend giving TLC to my indoor garden.

I currently have 1 Bubblelicious in flower, 9 BBL rooted clones, 4 OGK clones (taken from the last mother of my very first grow), and a juvenile BBL that is way over on the sativa side. (see last pics I posted). I currently have 4 unrooted BBLs in the cloning jar.

My soil is a mix of Black Gold indoor potting soil, vermiculite, and sand. Our RH is low here, except when it rains, so I use vermiculite to retain moisture. I also top off with worm castings and crushed eggshells.

Nutes in for veg are "house brand" garden nuts that have trace minerals, in liquid form, diluted to 1/4 recommended on the bottle. I feed on SUndays, then use plain water the rest of the week as needed.

I Supplement with superthrive, added 1/4 strength to the same gallon of water I use for the nutes. I also make a home-made sugar daddy of 1 tsp epsom salts + 1 TB molasses and give ALL my plants, veg and in flower, a weekly dose. This feeds the beneficial organisms in the soil.

When I transplant, I use MYKOS as directed on the package. This is dormant bacteria that attach to the roots and benefit the plant by digesting complex nutes into compounds the roots can absorb. You just sprinkle a spoonful on the rootball when you transplant. The scoop is enclosed.

I use a dozen 23 watt CFLs in both daylight and soft white lumens, plus 4 more bulbs down low to penetrate the inner branches. The veg has more daylight than soft white, and the flower unit has more soft white than daylight.

I think I'll stop here, and we can compare more notes later.:welcome:
 
Sounds like the setup is working well for you. I have heard good things about Black Gold soil, but it is not available here.

I'd have to deal with high temperatures in the Summer and would have to struggle (as in, do I unplug the refrigerator or the sump pump - which runs every 15 minutes or so even when there is no rain for weeks) to even think about adding more than the smallest air conditioner to my home. So 12 23-watt CFLs might be a little more heat than I want to deal with - I'd probably rather just go with one 250-watt HPS to keep things a little cooler (and for the higher amount of illumination, lol). But I guess up there in AK you have friendlier climate in that regard (I'm happier at cold temperatures than hot - not a big fan of shoveling snow, though, and I have just about decided to ignore it whenever it comes).

I think I still have about a cubic foot of vermiculite left from a purchase I made five or so years ago. I used to use a mixture of that and perlite sometimes. Then I switched to a mixture of coco coir and perlite. Both coco and vermiculite have things to recommend them and (IMO) things to recommend against them.

I'd like to have some beneficial bacteria to add to any soil grows I end up doing. I'll probably keep any mothers in soil, if nothing else, and may flower a plant or two in it. I have not made up my mind. I am only - today - in the, "Oh, look! Is that the tiniest hint of a rootlet sticking out of the seed?" stage right now.

Speaking of which, I checked earlier (and then got distracted by a phone call from Mom) and I think a root tip emerged from my Kali Mist seed! And possibly (I really don't have the vision for this stuff any more) from at least one of my Jack Herer seeds, as well. I need to go deal with them before I forget (or even worse, forget and turn the oven on to preheat at 450°F, lol).

"House brand" nutrients can absolutely be fine, assuming the person that is mixing/making them isn't the sort of person who needs to have a window cut in his/her belly so they can see (as they have their head up their rear end). It's really pretty simple when it's all boiled down, and people have been doing it for a long time. I once saw a book in my local library about how to mix one's own hydroponic nutrients and it was published in 1974 or thereabouts. And that's how the founder (Lawrence Brooke) of General Hydroponics got started - IIRC, he was working for the National Lab at Berkeley (he is "pretty smart" ;) )... and growing cannabis on his back porch. He was mixing up his own nutrients and a friend/coworker said, "You ought to start selling that stuff to other people," or words to that effect. "Modern" hydroponics got its start in the 17th century, IIRC - and the concept has been around for 2,000+ years (see "Hanging Gardens of Babylon"). And, of course, homo sapien has been nurturing plants for a lot longer than that.

As an aside, I was both saddened and angered when Scotts Miracle-Gro bought General Hydroponics. GH was the first multi-part nutrient I ever used for hydro.

Superthrive, huh? Well, as snake oil goes, lol, at least that one has vitamins in it. A friend of mine used to take a multivitamin first thing in the morning, then a few hours later he'd pee into a jug and fill it up the rest of the way with water. Used to swear by the practice. Outside of a little fertilizer from the feed store now and then, that's all he used for a supplement for his outdoor plants. He once grew the second-tallest cannabis plant I had ever seen at about 19' tall. Shame that pure sativas don't finish up at this latitude...
 
Re: your refrigerator. If you are using an old fridge or other small enclosure as a grow box, you won't need so many CFLs. If my temps get too high, I will turn off some of the bulbs, just enough to get the right mix of light and temps. or I leave the drapes covering the units open for a while to let the temp drop some. (Imitating nature)

As for snow, we haven't had much snow in 2 years. Maybe one or two 6" dumps, then melted away by the weekend. Alaska isn't the icebox it used to be decades ago. Spring came a month early this year.

Pee is really good fertilizer. An excellent source of Nitrogen. Americans are too sissified to use bodily waste to fertilize their crops, like they still do in rural Asia. Pee and poop are free, but they have to be well diluted and aged into a tea for a day or so. This breaks down the ammonia into its more usable nutrients. But it stinks like hell! You can't have neighbors if you go all-natural.

Sativas (pure or hybrids heavy on the Sativa side) are slow as molasses in January here in Alaska. (Like my OG Kushes)You get one crop in a year as opposed to several for Indica-heavy strains. We city folk have to grow indoors, and you would think that we can speed things up with indoor lights. But the wide swings of daylength in higher latitudes changes the ambient energy around us, and the plants, as well as wildlife and humans, feel the difference. Its why we eat and sleep so much in winter. Our diurnal cycles are messed up.

I cannot clone in winter at all. They just rot away. As soon as we pass the winter solstice, the clones start rooting, as the days get longer again. Seeds sprout faster, too. So there IS something to the ambient energy theory. I am sure there is a fancy scientific name for it.

Congrats on the birth of your new seeds! It's definitely the right time of the year for them to emerge! You'll get lots of rapid growth now, and you can train this grow to fit your spaces.
 
Re: your refrigerator. If you are using an old fridge or other small enclosure as a grow box

I only tried growing in an old refrigerator once. Talk about heat, lol. Turns out that well-insulated boxes aren't the best choice.

As for snow, we haven't had much snow in 2 years. Maybe one or two 6" dumps, then melted away by the weekend. Alaska isn't the icebox it used to be decades ago. Spring came a month early this year.

When the permafrost (pretty much the entire state, isn't it?) melts, y'all will be living in a swamp. Of course, everyone else will have problems, too (especially those living on coasts and islands). Oh well, maybe we'll get a nice nuclear winter to halt the "progress" of that one - and whatever species evolves to claw its way to the top of the food chain will have just a wee bit more sense than we do.

Pee is really good fertilizer. An excellent source of Nitrogen. Americans are too sissified to use bodily waste to fertilize their crops, like they still do in rural Asia. Pee and poop are free, but they have to be well diluted and aged into a tea for a day or so. This breaks down the ammonia into its more usable nutrients. But it stinks like hell! You can't have neighbors if you go all-natural.

I'm not the biggest fan of neighbors in general, lol. Had a guy flip out just because I was sitting on the front porch cleaning a rifle once. Said he was opposed to firearms. I was in my <BLEEP>hole phase (I'm sorry to say) so I told him that if I ever heard/saw someone break into his house to burgularize it or harm him, I would not only keep my firearms and myself to myself, I would be sure not to call the police, since they all carry them. OtOH, he moved - and the person that moved in offered me some canned deer meat (NOT my favorite, but it'll fill the hole as well as any other food). So... I guess it worked out. Maybe the guy that moved ended up in one of those places that are even more of a police state than our country (England, maybe or, IDK... Hitler-era Germany ;) ). Wherever he is, I don't suppose he has any misgivings at all when he buys chicken at the grocery store.

Sativas (pure or hybrids heavy on the Sativa side) are slow as molasses in January here in Alaska.

Lol. They're slow wherever one happens to be located. I'm growing Kali Mist, which is supposed to be 90% sativa. But it only has a 12 or 13 week flowering period, IIRC - so IDK about the real percentage. I had a Mexican (AfaIK) for years that'd flower in about 16½ weeks or so if you let it get seeded towards the end (it was divine!). And I've had Neville's Haze ("the plants that go longer than 16 weeks indoor will really not be of value in the end to indoor cultivators," lol) go that long or longer. I almost tried to get some of those seeds; some of those were pretty spectacular. Of course, one might have to go through 50 seeds to find that special gem (not nearly so many to find "good," though).

We city folk have to grow indoors

I've... generally felt safer indoors, and (again, generally) had better control over the environment, the light, the nutrients, the pests, et cetera.

and you would think that we can speed things up with indoor lights. But the wide swings of daylength in higher latitudes changes the ambient energy around us

My indoor plants never see the sun, so I wouldn't know about that. Get the same time regardless of the season. Well... Until I get poor and the temperature becomes too hot (or too cold), causing growth/flowering to slow.

Its why we eat and sleep so much in winter.

I seem to average 3-4 hours sleep on a good day. If it's cold, I might get an extra hour or two due to the fact that I am not laying miserably in a puddle of my own sweat, lol. And I often (usually) have no work in the Winter - so I consider myself really lucky if I get to eat a meal each day without having to wait around until the resturants throw what they couldn't sell into their dumpsters and close. But I might be considered the odd duck, so probably not a good example.

Our diurnal cycles are messed up.

Mom's urnal cycle is messed up, lol. She hobbles to the toilet a couple dozen times per night since that butcher I mean doctor ruined her bladder and it ended up having about a half-ounce capacity. We all have our pride and all, but me... I'd opt for some Depends and stay in bed (or find someone to install a freaking bag). But not Mom. She'd rather be miserable than embarrassed.

Err... I know that's not what you meant ;) . And I worked midnights off and on for years so my circadian clock... has a bent mainspring.

I cannot clone in winter at all.

I tried to clone once, when I was lucky enough to be working about 96 hours per week (and unlucky enough to be married). Sadly, all I managed was a good molt.

Sorry.

They just rot away. As soon as we pass the winter solstice, the clones start rooting, as the days get longer again.

People have been rooting cuttings in glasses of water on their kitchen window sills since they first invented window sills (or, possibly, glasses). I guess that doesn't work too well when the sun is largely just a memory half the year. I've been way too paranoid to root cannabis cuttings that way for 20+ years, so I just stick them near - but not too near - a CFL or two (or an old tube-type fluorescent fixture, or... pretty much anywhere that gets at least some daylight that the cats cannot reach (which has turned out to be nowhere with the latest set of little monsters, lol) if I am in no hurry. If even those methods don't work for you... IDK. Invest in a geiger counter, maybe.

Seeds sprout faster, too.

Well... To an extent. But it's not "ambient energy" (IMHO) - it likely has more to do with gravity and the position of the sun/moon. That's why I decided to germinate my seeds when I did.

<PSST! He's telling stories again - he decided to germinate them when he did because... that's when they arrived ;) >

So there IS something to the ambient energy theory. I am sure there is a fancy scientific name for it.

There probably is - but it is mostly just used by the people who appear on that "Ancient Aliens" show (or late night talk radio). At least that's my theory. I used to listen to a lot of talk radio when working midnights. Those - and a good sativa - kept me awake (and LMAO) all night long. I used to love listening to Art Bell(?) egg on the nuthatch escapees.

Congrats on the birth of your new seeds!

Thanks. Really, though, they are still in the "embryo" stage as far as I'm concerned. I don't count them until they're planted - and have sprouted. I don't ordinarily screw them up at this stage - but they are easy to mangle.

It's definitely the right time of the year for them to emerge!

Any time of year is the right time to sprout cannabis seeds. Even during a new moon on an 87°F night, lol. A little moisture, a little warmth - and you can't keep those babies from popping out and meeting the world. I think they have a cat gene or two in them ;) .

You'll get lots of rapid growth now

I've always gotten lots of rapid growth whenever I gave them enough water, food, light, and it wasn't too hot or cold. I assume that's pretty much how it works for everyone.

and you can train this grow to fit your spaces.

Yeah... I haven't exactly finalized the space as of yet. I'm still trying to obtain a light source. Until I do, I won't know how large - or small - of a space to build. It appears that I'll end up with my old 400-(/250-)watt Lumatek ballast, but as I have not received it yet, I am not going to build something that I may have to cut down (or... expand? <HOPE SPRINGS ETERNAL :icon_roll >) soon afterwards.
 
My first Sativa lady took over 100 days IN FLOWER to mature to harvest, and then started backbuilding on herself. I finally had to call a halt and harvest the poor thing!

I haven't had any luck rooting cannabis in a glass of water on a window sill. I think it was too cold. I COULD try it in the cloning jar with a CFL over it.

RE: permafrost. Yep, in a couple decades we will be using dikes to keep the seas from covering our coastal cities, like the Dutch do. There are several island communities along the West coast already washing away. The villages are being relocated to the mainland.

See, even YOU believe in the moon phase thingy! That's what I was getting at, part of it, anyway. I used to start my MMJ tinctures on the full moon, until I discovered gelatin capsules. Don't particularly like booze.

re: Space size. Build your spaces, then fill the corners in with auxiliary CFLs. You will need more space than you think, esp if you tie down branches. Figure at least 30" x 30" x 60"H (including lights) per mature plant. Height will be dependent on how low you train your ladies and how far the light has to be above the plants.

Oh, and please start your journal now, so I can sub! Pics and a list of particulars is a good place to start.
 
Today I up-potted the 3 rooted BBL clones into their juvenile containers (bottom 2/3 of juice and water jugs). Once they get rootbound, they will go into their adult 3 gallon bins.

I'll then have to reactivate the spare veg unit I have. Like my other veg unit, it consists of two shelving units wired together to increase depth. I have over a dozen bulbs mounted in there and will be able to accommodate 3 mature plants in veg.

My BBL and OGK clones are female. The only plant I don't know gender is the very sativa-looking specimen from a BBL seed. This is not a clone, but growing only slightly faster than the OGKs, and is low and very bushy. A day or so ago, I put it in its adult bin.

I think its sisters will be ready for the 12/12 schedule before it gets big enough.

The male BBLs I have bagged have dumped their pollen in the bags. Still some unopened pods, and so I'll wait till they are done and dry before storing the pollen for the seeding project. I kept one male clone and am training it to be one long and lanky stem, so I can bend it over and bag it easier. i probably should start tying down the stem now, while it's flexible.

With so many juvenile clones in Veg, I won't be popping any more of the mystery seeds I got from Nirvana any time soon.
 
My first Sativa lady took over 100 days IN FLOWER to mature to harvest, and then started backbuilding on herself. I finally had to call a halt and harvest the poor thing!

I sometimes think of sativas (vs. indicas) as pole beans vs. bush beans. It might be that a sativa was meant to be harvested bit by bit, all season long instead of all at once. IDK. For years I have determined the harvest date by counting the number of days of the stretch period from the first 12-hour night period, then multiplied that figure by 1.5 in order to calculate the number of days remaining (after the last day of stretch) - or by 2.5 to calculate the total number of days in the plant's flowering period. See this link for details: The 40:60 Rule .

It has, thus far, worked for me. If the strain is more pure of, err, sativaness then average, well... the odd flower that is not fully mature simply adds to the complexity of the mix, IMHO.

I haven't had any luck rooting cannabis in a glass of water on a window sill. I think it was too cold. I COULD try it in the cloning jar with a CFL over it.

One doesn't need much light. In fact, strong direct light seems to be counterproductive. Warm temperatures are a big help, though. Much of the time I use my oven (with its constant pilot light) as a seed germinating chamber. Alas, it is cheap - and old - and has no light, lol. Otherwise, it might make a halfway decent cloning box. Most cannabis strains clone easily. I believe you mentioned air layering in your journal earlier? That'll work with just about every plant on the planet (including cannabis). Outdoor growers have returned to their seldom-visited crops and found - often, to their consternation, lol - that the branch(es) which were heavy enough to touch the ground occasionally rooted there (and if this was actually desired, a few shovelfuls of soil over the contact point facilitates this).

I used to use a heating pad. I would cover my "cloning box" with a humidity dome. I'd remove all save two or three leaves, and trim those greatly. I would dip the cuts into rooting hormone powder, then roll them into cloning gel, use a cloning solution nutrient, mist the remaining partial leaves every day...

...and then one day, I thought about the countless cuttings of other plants that I, Mom, Grandma, et cetera had rooted on the windowsill in plain water over the years. (And the little bits of plants that have "accidentally" broken off and fallen into Mom's pocket once or twice when she was walking through the woods or... the local garden center ( ;) ).)

Now I don't get too worried about it. I've taken a bunch of cuttings, heard the doorbell, and tossed them into the refrigerator for a few hours (or a day or two if I forgot about them). I once got up one fine morning, went into the living room, sat on the couch - and discovered a badly wilted cutting partially hidden between the arm of the couch and the cushion. That one lived to flower. I don't recommend such things, of course - but if I find a "wet noodle," cut the end again so that the wound is fresh (and open!), and stick it in a glass of water and see an hour later that it is standing at attention, I figure it's going to live.

I have decided that humidity domes and daily misting are... Well, if the relative humidity where you are is hovering around zero, lol, then yes, it can be helpful - to an extent. But a plant - or cutting of a plant - needs to be able to uptake moisture and nutrients. Rooting is like priority number one. I think the goal ought to be to see that it has enough moisture to keep it alive, but not much more than that. It'll grow roots as it seeks more.

A heating pad might be good if it is less than "shirtsleeve weather" where one's cuttings are. But if it's 72°F, I don't bother.

I still dip the ends into rooting hormone, or into Olivia's Cloning Gel. If I remember. And I'll still mix up a batch of Olivia's Cloning Solution to use when I feed them the first time. Sometimes. Or I'll mix up a very weak solution of some other nutrient. Again, sometimes. But I make sure to use a special medium to root them in. No, wait... I'll stick them in a cup of perlite. Or perlite with a bit of coco in it if I've got a cup with more drainage holes than I'd prefer. Or a really light soil mix. Or... a cup of water ;) .

One thing I do try to do is to have a clean workspace. And I make my cuts with a double edged razor blade instead of scissors, as I do not wish to pinch the cut closed. I'll often take that razor blade and gently use it to scrape some of the outer layer off of the stem upwards a little way from the cut - I have later examined rooted cuttings and noticed roots growing from a larger area when I have done this (but it isn't necessary). I like to take cuttings from plants that are still in vegetative growth, although one can take them from flowering plants (seems there might be a bit of a delay involved, but that might be because I've always increased the number of light hours on the cuttings, so there are a couple of things going on at the same time). You can find plenty of examples (in completed grow journals) where others have decided they wished to preserve a plant after flowering has started, and have done so successfully. I make my cut at a pretty steep angle so as to increase its surface area - and if I cut a tip and there is a delay before I can deal with it, I always cut it again above the original cut so as to not have to worry about whether or not the wound site has started to close. For cuttings that I've placed in a (mostly) perlite medium, I've been known to determine whether or not they have rooted by using the "pull test" - and I have occasionally been left with an unrooted cutting in my hand, lol. <SHRUGS> I just stick it back into the cup, tap on the top of the medium to ensure there aren't any big air spaces, give it a drink, and pretend that I never got in a hurry.

I think after the basics are covered (take a cutting from a healthy well-fed plant, give it lots of gentle indirect light, keep it warm enough for the average octogenarian's comfort, ensure that nothing EATS it)... The only real improvements are seen in the speed at which the cutting roots. I've seen S-L-O-W progress with the cutting that was placed into a glass of water (sometimes, several changes of the water took place in the meantime). People that buy - or build - "aerocloner" type devices that spray tiny droplets (or, better yet, a fog) of water onto the cut stem see much quicker results. I generally shoot for something in the middle, I guess. I don't need it yesterday, but I'd like to have it happen before my next birthday.

Do I see 100% success? No, but it's close. I think I could chalk the (few) failures up to laziness more than anything. Or stupid mistakes (too much light too close, allowing the medium to completely dry out, forgetting that I have cats living here, things like that). I have better success rates now then I did back when I was anal about it. Probably because I don't see them rot due to an overly wet environment. But even a small mother plant with a small amount of light is easily capable of producing more cuttings than I could use. I don't grow for profit any more (I know too many people who could benefit from cannabis - and how can you charge someone for medicine when it costs so little to produce it?), and things will likely remain small & humble here.

I'm just rambling again.

RE: permafrost. Yep, in a couple decades we will be using dikes to keep the seas from covering our coastal cities, like the Dutch do. There are several island communities along the West coast already washing away. The villages are being relocated to the mainland.

The weather is changing - not just generally higher temperatures, but the frequency - and severity - of the storms, too. I wonder what will happen to all those people behind the dikes... when they get wrecked.

The last time the earth's atmosphere routinely contained more than 400 parts per million of CO₂, modern humans did not exist. I don't mean modern humans, as in people running around using cell phones - I mean that it has been millions of years. The last time this was the norm was probably 2-3 million years ago, in the Mid-Pliocene era. Sea levels were, on average, between 50 and 82 feet higher. (Better build those dikes tall.) Plant and animal species existed several hundred miles north (or south, if one is speaking in terms of points south of the equator) of where their nearest relatives live today. And what little Arctic ice there was... melted every Summer. And we're on track to blow right past that 400 ppm CO₂ figure, towards a world that will make the "marginally" hotter temperatures and higher sea levels of the Pliocene look quaint in comparison. <SIGH>

See, even YOU believe in the moon phase thingy!

Well, somewhat, yes. Anyone can see the effect that the moon - and, to a lesser extent, the sun - has by observing the tides. And emergency rooms seem to be busier during full moons. I haven't met a werewolf yet, though (err... to the best of my knowledge ;) ).

re: Space size. Build your spaces, then fill the corners in with auxiliary CFLs. You will need more space than you think, esp if you tie down branches. Figure at least 30" x 30" x 60"H (including lights) per mature plant. Height will be dependent on how low you train your ladies and how far the light has to be above the plants.

Well, that's the thing. It'd be pointless to build a space that is larger than I can illuminate well. Counterproductive, actually, because I would then lose any benefit from having reflective walls. I am hesitant to just pick a size on the hope that I'll be able to light it up. It's a bit depressing, really, lol - I have enough genetics and, arguably, nutrients, to pretty much fill every room in my home. But I could never afford to buy enough lights for one (or to pay that electric bill).

I also hate to do size / lighting requirements based on plant count. I've had single plants fill closets - and I have stuck 81 plants in a 3' x 3' space. It depends on the method one chooses to use to grow them, strain, length that they are vegetated... and the type/amount of light that one has to offer them.

Oh, and please start your journal now, so I can sub! Pics and a list of particulars is a good place to start.

It is already started. The link is in my .SIG. There isn't much yet, one handful of hope and the other full of air, lol. I did include pictures of the seed (packages), though. EDIT: Doggone it, I managed to screw the link to my journal up in my .SIGnature. I guess I'm not that popular or someone would have noticed and let me know. Oh well, mayhap it can be repaired. EDIT #2: I think I fixed it. Would you (or someone) let me know one way or the other? Thanks!
 
I also try and harvest gradually, but I let my ladies go way beyond the point where they should, so often, by the time I get to the secondary buds, the plant is already dying. Buds on sticks, basically. LOL! it works out, tho. With the primary buds harvested, I can see if I'm going to get anything more out of her before cutting her completely. And the family has outgrown the trippy highs one gets when there is a lot of THC.

I will go over and sub you your journal.
 
It is already started. The link is in my .SIG. There isn't much yet, one handful of hope and the other full of air, lol. I did include pictures of the seed (packages), though. EDIT: Doggone it, I managed to screw the link to my journal up in my .SIGnature. I guess I'm not that popular or someone would have noticed and let me know. Oh well, mayhap it can be repaired. EDIT #2: I think I fixed it. Would you (or someone) let me know one way or the other? Thanks!

You fixed it! And I DID tell you (in your journal) that I had to go around Jupiter to get to your journal because the previous link didn't work. * wink *
 
Other than rearranging plants and lights according to growth, there isn't much new to talk about. I did see an open flower in one of the bagged males. I tapped the bag and the pollen dropped. Most of the pods have shriveled and died, but there are a few that look promising. I even got some pollen off the cuttings from Tritops, which are simply sitting in a narrow vase, and bagged.

The clones/juveniles are all at least 12" tall, including pot, except for the OGKs. The OGKs look healthy but are remaining low and slow, and very bushy for a Sativa- heavy strain.

They all are genetically 5 months old, and the BBL's have already gone to an alternating leaf pattern. I think I should LST the largest of them, let it grow out a bit more, then put it into flower. As much as the blooming BBL stretched, I am confident it will catch up. (My OGKs never DID stretch).

EDIT: The lady BBL in flower is exactly 4 weeks into flower and is covered with lots of nickle-sized flowers. Nirvana seeds says their regular BBL finishes in 8 - 10 weeks, but I've read user comments that said up to 12. She is finished sretching, and I'm just taking care of her basic needs and spraying her leaves, stems, and soil with neem oil now and then to keep the Borg mites at bay.
 
Thank you for the pics, Serpent! This gives me something to hope for. I doubt my buds will be this good, as I grow under 23W CFLs.... lots of them. A dozen in each grow unit at different levels for penetration. Did you have a variety of phenotypes from your seed? One of my plants is so sativa-looking, it doesn't look like BBL or anything else in my grow!
 
No thank God mine were all consistent maybe you Pop the free mystery seed by accident lol but keep up the good work they love lots of food and humidity (45%) in flowering. You'll be surprise even with CFL's they will get fat
 
I think one of the seeds packaged as BBL was a mystery seed by mistake. However, it does not smell skunky or dieselly, like sativas do. It is fruity like the BBLs. It is also bushy and low, like Indica is supposed to be.

I DID find out while surfing the net that BBLs do have some sativa ancestry, so that could explain why most of mine are tall and lanky, rather than short and bushy, even with topping. But they certainly grow a whole lot faster than my OG Kushes, which ALL grew low and bushy and were VERY slow to mature. This is the total opposite of what the charts show for Indica and Sativa.

Maybe my grow methods bring out the recessive traits of these strains. * shrugs *
 
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