Ace Panama, Groot, In High Brix

dajerm119 · May 29, 2018

neikodog said:
Leaf wash = leaf shine

Hey there neikodog, can I use that now though? Since I have the buds forming and I saw some trichs forming already too.

Neiko · May 29, 2018

I think you'll be fine. It's still pretty early, you may want to shoot Doc a message to confirm though. I've used it once just to see what it did and it sure does make them shine. My buddy just bought some and tried it and was amazed at the shine, he was in early flower as well.

dajerm119 · May 29, 2018

Sweet, but I think I have to wait a week or so right? Just sprayed Brix today...
I think its De-Stress you can spray like 3 days after brix, but leaf wash is treated like Brix in that you can only spray one or the other every week to 10 days... correct? I dont wanna salt up the soil is all, so I need to double check.

Neiko · May 29, 2018

Yeah not sure on that. I know it is a foliar feed as well.

dajerm119 · May 29, 2018

neikodog said:
Yeah not sure on that. I know it is a foliar feed as well.

Yes sir, it’s cool I’ll wait and give her spray next time around as long as there’s not significant resin development in the mean time! Thanks agian neikodog!

Morglie · May 29, 2018

Don't spray her with leaf wash after you're very far into flower. First Cat would be the latest I would recommend. It's oil based which doesn't play well with resin.

I will say however, I spray my seed makers up until harvest since I'm not growing them for their resin and they are still very sticky. I just harvested 4 tiny ones today and my fingertips were coated in fingerhash.

overlord · May 29, 2018

I saw Doc recommend to alternate between leaf wash and brix, but as @Morglie said leaf wash doesn't play well with resin.

Doc says snake oil is fine to use in flower however, as it is not oil based.

Morglie · May 29, 2018

overlord said:
I saw Doc recommend to alternate between leaf wash and brix, but as @Morglie said leaf wash doesn't play well with resin.

Doc says snake oil is fine to use in flower however, as it is not oil based.

Yes, but it needs to piggyback on another foliar. You can't spray it by itself. You have to add it to brix or destress for the plant to absorb it.

overlord · May 29, 2018

Morglie said:
Yes, but it needs to piggyback on another foliar. You can't spray it by itself. You have to add it to brix or destress for the plant to absorb it.

Right, I add it to Brix, but you can mix it with dextrose available from Doc should you want to use it on its' own.

I thought you wouldn't want to use it in flower due to the "oil" in its name. Doc said in @CannaDad s journal that it was ok as it didn't contain oil as the name implies. The leaf wash does however.

Morglie · May 29, 2018

overlord said:
Right, I add it to Brix, but you can mix it with dextrose available from Doc should you want to use it on its' own.

I thought you wouldn't want to use it in flower due to the "oil" in its name. Doc said in @CannaDad s journal that it was ok as it didn't contain oil as the name implies. The leaf wash does however.

Leaf wash is just that, it's meant to wash the leaves. Something to brighten up foliage. Say someone with a show garden would spray it the day before people were coming to view their garden. It also has the added benefit of killing pests. Namely mites, which is why you see many brixers using it. It's organic and non toxic and works, all while making them look nicer in the process.

Snake oil feeds the plant magnesium, among other trace nutrients. It's most beneficial to frankenstrains. Groot isn't going to need it. She'll be happy with just brix in flower.

weenmeoff · May 29, 2018

Pretty sure snake oil is not oil based.

overlord · May 29, 2018

weenmeoff said:
Pretty sure snake oil is not oil based.

Your right , it isn't.
Leaf wash is however.

DopyLemontree · May 30, 2018

Great discussion here. I haven’t needed to use leaf wash, but have some just in case.

My OG likes 1 or 2 snakeoils stacked on a brix foliar in flower, but my others don’t appreciate it as much.

dajerm119 · May 30, 2018

Thanks gang! I really appreciate everyones input, thanks so much for the replies.
Think ill play it by ear, if theres not much resin production within the next week to 10 days then I will use the leaf, if there is quite a change I will skip the leaf wash. Either way shes looking great, I shouldn't worry about her at all.
I like that leaf wash can give some shine but I would really like the Brix sheen... instead of the oils just making them shiny. I know, of course, that its still a great product and should be used... I just want the leaves to shine on their own. Noel had decent sheen to her... no leaf wash there. At any rate Thanks for stopping by everyone!

dajerm119 · May 30, 2018

Well, she was drying out pretty good already so I went ahead and gave her the second Cat Drench (12ml+ Tea3ml) in 1.5gal water. Buds are swelling nicely and I do see a bit of frost starting on some of the fans... have a feeling this is gonna be good.

Edit: guess I should say the pistils are growing nicely... big ol fluffs of pistils... pretty interesting growing a Sativa and seeing how different it is from the indica leaning hybrids I’ve been growing.

dajerm119 · Jun 2, 2018

Just some pics to show the bud development since the Cats. She’s done stretching, thank goodness cause I was getting a bit nervous! Here is Groot, now 27 days since flip... and a long way to go!