A Base Treatment Regimen For Cancer

[SweetSue]

I received now about 9 grams CCO in a 10ml syringe. I get the lab test in a few days. how can I fill those 9 grams in 9 1ml syringes? what would be the best way?

If you mix it as biobomb material you'll get much more than 9 1ml syringes filled. It depends on the strength of the dose you want to use. Which concentration were you planning on going with?

 

[Randoobula]

I received now about 9 grams CCO in a 10ml syringe. I get the lab test in a few days. how can I fill those 9 grams in 9 1ml syringes? what would be the best way?

If it were me, I'd set up a double boiler with water in bottom pan, and empty syringe of oil into upper pan and heat it until runny consistency(about 100 degrees), add olive or coconut oil and lecithin if you choose to use it, stir until completely incorporated(about fifteen minutes. I'd then place in fridge for a couple hours, pull out and allow to get to room temp, and stir again. If it's uniform in color and consistency, I'd then suck it up into my 1ml syringes. If it's still too thick to do so, I'd set my glass container it's in, in a pan of hot water, then suck it up.

How much oil I'd infuse it with would depend upon how thick and sticky it is in its current form. If it is tough to dispense at room temp out of 10 ml syringe, I'd add about 30% volume of CCO. If it dispenses easily I'd cut it down a bit. If you want to keep it as concentrated as possible start with 20%. That range (20-30%) I know to bring on quick effect so confident it is enough carrier oil for desirable bioavailability.

As far as lecithin, I'd likely add 1/4-1/2 teaspoon. My experience adding lecithin to CCO tho is limited so others may have other ideas.

Edit: you'll likely need several additional 1ml syringes. Don't worry about less concentration of oil by infusing it, as it is a wash because you gain bioavailability. In fact it will likely be more therapeutically efficient/effective than the raw CCO, giving you and extra couple days dosages.

 

[SweetSue]

If it were me, I'd set up a double boiler with water in bottom pan, and empty syringe of oil into upper pan and heat it until runny consistency(about 100 degrees), add olive or coconut oil and lecithin if you choose to use it, stir until completely incorporated(about fifteen minutes. I'd then place in fridge for a couple hours, pull out and allow to get to room temp, and stir again. If it's uniform in color and consistency, I'd then suck it up into my 1ml syringes. If it's still too thick to do so, I'd set my glass container it's in, in a pan of hot water, then suck it up.

How much oil I'd infuse it with would depend upon how thick and sticky it is in its current form. If it is tough to dispense at room temp out of 10 ml syringe, I'd add about 30% volume of CCO. If it dispenses easily I'd cut it down a bit. If you want to keep it as concentrated as possible start with 20%. That range (20-30%) I know to bring on quick effect so confident it is enough carrier oil for desirable bioavailability.

As far as lecithin, I'd likely add 1/4-1/2 teaspoon. My experience adding lecithin to CCO tho is limited so others may have other ideas.

Nice technique Randy. Adding liquid sunflower lecithin changes the approach, since it needs to rest in the refrigerator for 24 hours to give the lecithin time to encapsulate and homogenize. The measurements for the biobombs are worked out and posted on the thread. Now you have me interested as to how close our formulations are to yours. I'll have to take the time to run some numbers and compare.

 

[Randoobula]

Nice technique Randy. Adding liquid sunflower lecithin changes the approach, since it needs to rest in the refrigerator for 24 hours to give the lecithin time to encapsulate and homogenize. The measurements for the biobombs are worked out and posted on the thread. Now you have me interested as to how close our formulations are to yours. I'll have to take the time to run some numbers and compare.

Sorry about the couple hours... you're right, longer is likely the way to go. I did notice that several of my fresh harvest bottles that have been in the fridge for near a week have coagulated some. I took a small amount out and it very quickly mixed back together. However, a bottle I'm using I've left out for 3-4 days and it is perfect. So I'm thinking the cold temps may cause the separation. Not sure.

Infused CCO may behave differently tho, holding the lecithin stable within the thicker oil.

 

[stayalive]

If you mix it as biobomb material you'll get much more than 9 1ml syringes filled. It depends on the strength of the dose you want to use. Which concentration were you planning on going with?

Sorry all

I did not put my question right as it looks like. first of all I want to put the 9ml in 9 1ml syringes and only then I want to test and try to do one biobomb mix with a 10:1 mix and then if I manage to do this I will do the rest accordingly.

sorry for the confusion

 

[SweetSue]

Sorry all

I did not put my question right as it looks like. first of all I want to put the 9ml in 9 1ml syringes and only then I want to test and try to do one biobomb mix with a 10:1 mix and then if I manage to do this I will do the rest accordingly.

sorry for the confusion

Now I understand. That confused me, I'll admit.

I take it the oil won't draw up easily? Try setting the capped syringe in a warm water bath to soften it up. The only way other that I know of is to add as little alcohol as possible to get it workable.

 

[stayalive]

hi all

I want to tack 2x 50 mg and the question is how many minutes do I need to wait for the 2nd tack? both tacks before bed time

 

[SweetSue]

hi all

I want to tack 2x 50 mg and the question is how many minutes do I need to wait for the 2nd tack? both tacks before bed time

I have no idea, so I left a question on your behalf on the tacking thread. I brought along a link for you if you'd like to keep an eye out, but I'll be alert. Cannabis Oil Dosing Tutorial - Tacking Method

In the meantime, maybe someone else will jump in with the answer.

I'm thinking any wait at bedtime wouldn't be necessary, but don't quote me on that.

 

[stayalive]

I have no idea, so I left a question on your behalf on the tacking thread. I brought along a link for you if you'd like to keep an eye out, but I'll be alert. Cannabis Oil Dosing Tutorial - Tacking Method

In the meantime, maybe someone else will jump in with the answer.

I'm thinking any wait at bedtime wouldn't be necessary, but don't quote me on that.

I follow the tacking thread

 

[SweetSue]

I follow the tacking thread

Good to hear. Let me share the information over here so people don't have to go looking.

As long as the 2 tacks are done correctly it would not mater if the tack was small, medium or large, there is a greater risk of sloppy tacking if done as 1 big tack so, yes do it at the same time just different areas. Hope this helped.



Don't forget that if there was a sloppy tack you can take a small (911) tack to lower the euphoria.

 

[KingstonRabbi]

hi all

I want to tack 2x 50 mg and the question is how many minutes do I need to wait for the 2nd tack? both tacks before bed time

Hi Stayalive.

Initially I was concerned that you were trying to load all your doses in the evening, but looking back I see you are also doing suppositories also so I assume you're spreading doses out.

Still, it bears repeating for others reading this: the biggest mistake I made the first time I tried using cco for cancer was taking nearly all my doses after work to keep my head clear during day. CCO is much more effective when steady level is maintained throughout day. A) Dosing 1 or 2 times a day leaves most of the day for cancer to keep growing. B) The excess CCO in concentrated doses isn't used effectively, because much is stored in fat and metabolized as it is released making it ineffective against cancer (supported by research papers on reintoxcation effect), and cells aren't able to use it as well as when it they are allowed to adjust to steady dosing (my own conclusion, so take it with a grain of salt).

Bottom line is I took over 100 grams and reached the 1 gram/day level but still had tumors at the end. (I also didn't use suppositories, competitive inhibition or bio bombs, which also explains failure of that round.) Compare that to 2nd round when I saw results at 200-300 mg/day and was clear a few weeks later at 500-600 mg/day, total cco consumed about 35 grams for 2nd round.

There's some flexibility in using the base treatment regimen. Everyone needs to make some adjustment to fit their case and what they have available. But some things make me cringe. You're clearly on top of this. I'm looking forward to a good report in the not to far future.

 

[stayalive]

Hi Stayalive.

Initially I was concerned that you were trying to load all your doses in the evening, but looking back I see you are also doing suppositories also so I assume you're spreading doses out.

Still, it bears repeating for others reading this: the biggest mistake I made the first time I tried using cco for cancer was taking nearly all my doses after work to keep my head clear during day. CCO is much more effective when steady level is maintained throughout day. A) Dosing 1 or 2 times a day leaves most of the day for cancer to keep growing. B) The excess CCO in concentrated doses isn't used effectively, because much is stored in fat and metabolized as it is released making it ineffective against cancer (supported by research papers on reintoxcation effect), and cells aren't able to use it as well as when it they are allowed to adjust to steady dosing (my own conclusion, so take it with a grain of salt).

Bottom line is I took over 100 grams and reached the 1 gram/day level but still had tumors at the end. (I also didn't use suppositories, competitive inhibition or bio bombs, which also explains failure of that round.) Compare that to 2nd round when I saw results at 200-300 mg/day and was clear a few weeks later at 500-600 mg/day, total cco consumed about 35 grams for 2nd round.

There's some flexibility in using the base treatment regimen. Everyone needs to make some adjustment to fit their case and what they have available. But some things make me cringe. You're clearly on top of this. I'm looking forward to a good report in the not to far future.

@KingstonRabbi

thank you so much for that posting. it was giving me some hope and relieve cause I am still new to all of this and trying to find the correct dosage

the 8-9 grams of RSO I have now is 70% THC (lab tested)

I did yesterday a 5:1 (BioBomb) mix 4ml Olive Oil - 1 ml Liquid Sunflower Lecithin - 1 CCO 70% THC

please let me explain you my dosage ( received from a known group ) for about the next 7 weeks

morning - 10mg THC sub lingual

3 hours later 65mg CBD and again 3 hours later another 65mg CBD

before bed time 1 vaginal suppository with 60mg THC and then 15 minutes later 60mg THC sub lingual

and

edit
I forgot to mention that I tack a small portion about 20 minutes before the bed time dosage. shall I also tack a small portion before the CBD dosage?

 

[KingstonRabbi]

@KingstonRabbi

thank you so much for that posting. it was giving me some hope and relieve cause I am still new to all of this and trying to find the correct dosage

the 8-9 grams of RSO I have now is 70% THC (lab tested)

I did yesterday a 5:1 (BioBomb) mix 4ml Olive Oil - 1 ml Liquid Sunflower Lecithin - 1 CCO 70% THC

please let me explain you my dosage ( received from a known group ) for about the next 7 weeks

morning - 10mg THC sub lingual

3 hours later 65mg CBD and again 3 hours later another 65mg CBD

before bed time 1 vaginal suppository with 60mg THC and then 15 minutes later 60mg THC sub lingual

and

edit
I forgot to mention that I tack a small portion about 20 minutes before the bed time dosage. shall I also tack a small portion before the CBD dosage?

Okay, I've read back a little more to remember the details. If I understand correctly you are taking 260 mg/day plus tacking, and taking THC and CBD separately. You are still going through chemo and have a colectomy. Not sure if mid-day doses are sub-lingual or suppository. I understand the evening sub-lingual if you have trouble sleeping, but not the small morning dose unless it's for pain. Finally, still unclear if your goal is mainly to offset chemo side effects, enhance chemo treatment, or to start actively fighting cancer with cco. 260 mg is plenty for 1st two but low for cancer treatment, especially stage 4. Depending on how chemo goes you can make adjustments later.

Changes I would make now:
* Tacking is always a good idea before each dose as a way to prime the system as well as to deliver additional medicine.
* Mix at least a little THC oil with CBD oil and vice versa for each dose. They each make the other more effective but need to be active in your system at the same time. Tacking with one right before you dose with the other would work.
* Are you taking the Apigenin before each dose? 80-100 mg 5x/day is powerful cancer inhibitor in it's own right. Taken 30 minutes before each dose (same amount of apigenin regardless of size of cco dose) will prevent metabolism by liver and make cco far more effective.
* Drink green tea and have mangoes daily (I like dried unsweetened, but any form without added sugar). These keep receptors clean to keep cco working. And dark chocolate (85% or higher).
* If you still have rectum then rectal suppositories will still be effective without the missing colon. This is my preferred delivery method as the most controlled with highest level of bioavailability with least psycho-activity, even over vaginal suppositories. Sublingual doses are taken up quicker but more get metabolized and you risk ingesting some.

It's a lot to keep track of especially on top of chemo regimen, but you're doing great. Keep it up!

 

[stayalive]

Okay, I've read back a little more to remember the details. If I understand correctly you are taking 260 mg/day plus tacking, and taking THC and CBD separately. You are still going through chemo and have a colectomy. Not sure if mid-day doses are sub-lingual or suppository. I understand the evening sub-lingual if you have trouble sleeping, but not the small morning dose unless it's for pain. Finally, still unclear if your goal is mainly to offset chemo side effects, enhance chemo treatment, or to start actively fighting cancer with cco. 260 mg is plenty for 1st two but low for cancer treatment, especially stage 4. Depending on how chemo goes you can make adjustments later.

Changes I would make now:
* Tacking is always a good idea before each dose as a way to prime the system as well as to deliver additional medicine.
* Mix at least a little THC oil with CBD oil and vice versa for each dose. They each make the other more effective but need to be active in your system at the same time. Tacking with one right before you dose with the other would work.
* Are you taking the Apigenin before each dose? 80-100 mg 5x/day is powerful cancer inhibitor in it's own right. Taken 30 minutes before each dose (same amount of apigenin regardless of size of cco dose) will prevent metabolism by liver and make cco far more effective.
* Drink green tea and have mangoes daily (I like dried unsweetened, but any form without added sugar). These keep receptors clean to keep cco working. And dark chocolate (85% or higher).
* If you still have rectum then rectal suppositories will still be effective without the missing colon. This is my preferred delivery method as the most controlled with highest level of bioavailability with least psycho-activity, even over vaginal suppositories. Sublingual doses are taken up quicker but more get metabolized and you risk ingesting some.

It's a lot to keep track of especially on top of chemo regimen, but you're doing great. Keep it up!

1 chemo left. full colectomy and radical hysterectomy

morning dose 10mg thc sublingual

2x 65mg CBD mid day 3 hours difference sub lingual
CBD I have is 120mg/ml CBD and 20mg/ml thc

evening dose (biobomb mix) 60mg thc sub lingual and 60mg thc vaginal suppository

2 apigenin (swanson) before oil administrating
1 mango each day
green tea (lemon and ginger) few times a day

since taking the cannabis oil I am sleeping very good

my goal is to cure the cancer

I still have rectum

I hope this helps for better understanding

 

[SweetSue]

1 chemo left. full colectomy and radical hysterectomy

morning dose 10mg thc sublingual

2x 65mg CBD mid day 3 hours difference sub lingual
CBD I have is 120mg/ml CBD and 20mg/ml thc

evening dose (biobomb mix) 60mg thc sub lingual and 60mg thc vaginal suppository

2 apigenin (swanson) before oil administrating
1 mango each day
green tea (lemon and ginger) few times a day

since taking the cannabis oil I am sleeping very good

my goal is to cure the cancer

I still have rectum

I hope this helps for better understanding

That was very helpful. Thank you. Sometimes things can get lost in the pages. I'm pleased to hear you're sleeping better. That's such a necessary part of a healing path. You're doing wonderfully well stayalive.

You may need more THC to push the cancer back to negligible status.

 

[stayalive]

That was very helpful. Thank you. Sometimes things can get lost in the pages. I'm pleased to hear you're sleeping better. That's such a necessary part of a healing path. You're doing wonderfully well stayalive.

You may need more THC to push the cancer back to negligible status.

what amount more THC to push the cancer would that be in your opinion?

 

[KingstonRabbi]

what amount more THC to push the cancer would that be in your opinion?

Short answer is as much as you can tolerate. 1 gram/day is still a good target, but you can get there at your own pace. I increased very slowly after I reached 200 mg/day and only needed to get to 600 mg/day when I got my clear scan. Everybody is different, so you'll need to find your own dosage.

I would try to get 200 mg of THC in addition to the CBD and then keep increasing as you can. One big advantage of progressing more slowly was that I was able to find a lower level at which cco was showing some results, which is the level I base my maintenance doses on. If scan shows cancer getting worse or even if you think it's getting worse then you would need to increase more quickly.

 

[stayalive]

Short answer is as much as you can tolerate. 1 gram/day is still a good target, but you can get there at your own pace. I increased very slowly after I reached 200 mg/day and only needed to get to 600 mg/day when I got my clear scan. Everybody is different, so you'll need to find your own dosage.

I would try to get 200 mg of THC in addition to the CBD and then keep increasing as you can. One big advantage of progressing more slowly was that I was able to find a lower level at which cco was showing some results, which is the level I base my maintenance doses on. If scan shows cancer getting worse or even if you think it's getting worse then you would need to increase more quickly.

again a very helpful posting

I think I need 1 more posting to reach 50 postings to be allowed to PMs

will send you and Sue a PM then

 

[SweetSue]

I found a note in my messages this morning from Dave Groomer who'd stumbled onto a blog with a plethora of information backing our claims that cannabinoids kill cancer cells. I've looked it over and can't hold this one back. There's so much info covered here it'll make your head spin. Some of the videos have been pulled, a common practice at YouTube, but most of it is still intact, and all of it is usable.

Enjoy the exploration.

Cannabis Kills Cancer Cells – All the Proof You Need | Cannabis Journal

 

[stayalive]

hello

today I had a blood test and result is that I have very low level of neutrophils and a ,low number of white blood cells
means an high risk of infection

any idea if cannabis oil could help?