Yup! AS supergroomer stated.. Not Safe At all. I will be careful how I word this since I have had a polite warning in the past from the site when discussing alcohol( but we are not talking about distilling) . Purchase the grain Alcohol and a Water Distiller to reclaim your alcohol. I did make my own reclaimer using a induction compatible pressure cooker( would not recommend someone doing this due to the obvious safety concerns.
A Base Treatment Regimen For Cancer
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Hehehe. Gotcha wrist smacked huh?
I'm not just a member, but the Founder of that club. Lol.
From moonshine, blasting, inappropriate whatever's, online fussing... I've aggravated the Mods I'm sure. I get better at not doing nowadays.
LOL! Yup.. First thing that popped into my head when I received the "Private E-mail" was your discussion on a thread about how and you Brother Motoco had a similar incident. So I make sure I taste my words before I spit them out perse'. Stay Gold /l\
I've never heard it phrased in quite those terms panacea.
We've all had our hands smacked. It kinda comes with the outlaw territory. LOL!
Dennise
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Cajun please check the dosing thread when you can....
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....Hi everyone
I posted this on the dosing thread, reposting here as per SweetSue's suggestion.
I'm new to forum so please forgive any errors.
I'd like to address my query to Cajuncelt but if any one else wishes to respond, please feel free.
I'm in the UK where oil is very very hard to come by. Unfortunately I'm not in a position practically to grow or even make my own oil, sadly so.I'm a soon to be single mom to a 2 yr old and live in small apartment. So worried about sourcing issues too. Managed to source some via someone who used it to overcome lung cancer.
My story is that I was diagnosed with late stage ovarian & cervical cancer which had metastisized to the peritoneum (stomach lining) and a few nodules in the liver in June 2015. I had some integrated treatment elsewhere in Europe but decided not to continue for several reasons, including that tumours were not shrinking after 4 rounds of very expensive treatment. I'd been looking into the oil right from the start but again the sourcing issue held me back.
When I finally got some I started the oil on 24 Dec 2015 and quickly built up to 1ml day within 3 weeks. I've been taking it in suppository form mixed with high quality coconut oil. So each dose is 0.5ml CO & about 5-6 drops of coconut oil in each capsule as a suppository. I've recently added 2 drops rubbed into the gums at night (hoping to treat the liver). As at today I've consumed a total of 31ml of CO.
The first few weeks I felt great, no pain etc, but after a month on the CO my tumour markers ( Ca125 and CEA) had both increased. I was expecting it to go down slightly even, so this came as a disappointment. At this point I felt the usual sleepiness and sometimes the munchies. Otherwise I thought I tolerated the CO rather well.
However the last two weeks -- I've had some symptoms reappearing (including abnormal bleeding) and slight twinges of pain that last a minute or two at most. Also not feeling sleepy, no munchies...am wide awake right now at 2:53am this together with the increased tumour marker causes me to wonder if I'm taking the correct dose and using the most efficient method of getting the CO to the affected organs. Do you think the suppository method (and the mix with coconut oil) is the correct one for my particular issue? Should I be taking coconut oil 30 mins before the suppository?
The oil being hard to come by here is costing me a small fortune, I believe in it totally, but just need to be sure it works to fight off the cancer for me. Can't leave my baby, I must must, must get well.
I understand that you're probably inundated with questions so I would truly appreciate your time & any advice you have that might be useful for me. Should I be taking any supplements that could make the oil work better? Does magnesium contribute? Will start eating mango today
Any help at all will be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks
I posted this on the dosing thread, reposting here as per SweetSue's suggestion.
I'm new to forum so please forgive any errors.
I'd like to address my query to Cajuncelt but if any one else wishes to respond, please feel free.
I'm in the UK where oil is very very hard to come by. Unfortunately I'm not in a position practically to grow or even make my own oil, sadly so.I'm a soon to be single mom to a 2 yr old and live in small apartment. So worried about sourcing issues too. Managed to source some via someone who used it to overcome lung cancer.
My story is that I was diagnosed with late stage ovarian & cervical cancer which had metastisized to the peritoneum (stomach lining) and a few nodules in the liver in June 2015. I had some integrated treatment elsewhere in Europe but decided not to continue for several reasons, including that tumours were not shrinking after 4 rounds of very expensive treatment. I'd been looking into the oil right from the start but again the sourcing issue held me back.
When I finally got some I started the oil on 24 Dec 2015 and quickly built up to 1ml day within 3 weeks. I've been taking it in suppository form mixed with high quality coconut oil. So each dose is 0.5ml CO & about 5-6 drops of coconut oil in each capsule as a suppository. I've recently added 2 drops rubbed into the gums at night (hoping to treat the liver). As at today I've consumed a total of 31ml of CO.
The first few weeks I felt great, no pain etc, but after a month on the CO my tumour markers ( Ca125 and CEA) had both increased. I was expecting it to go down slightly even, so this came as a disappointment. At this point I felt the usual sleepiness and sometimes the munchies. Otherwise I thought I tolerated the CO rather well.
However the last two weeks -- I've had some symptoms reappearing (including abnormal bleeding) and slight twinges of pain that last a minute or two at most. Also not feeling sleepy, no munchies...am wide awake right now at 2:53am this together with the increased tumour marker causes me to wonder if I'm taking the correct dose and using the most efficient method of getting the CO to the affected organs. Do you think the suppository method (and the mix with coconut oil) is the correct one for my particular issue? Should I be taking coconut oil 30 mins before the suppository?
The oil being hard to come by here is costing me a small fortune, I believe in it totally, but just need to be sure it works to fight off the cancer for me. Can't leave my baby, I must must, must get well.
I understand that you're probably inundated with questions so I would truly appreciate your time & any advice you have that might be useful for me. Should I be taking any supplements that could make the oil work better? Does magnesium contribute? Will start eating mango today
Any help at all will be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks
Shazzy dear my heart goes out to you. First and foremost is to be sure your CCO is of a high quality from reputable source. I understand you may not be able to pick and choose as the CCO is hard to come by as you stated. I personally think strain is of great importance also. I am sure Cajuncelt will be along shortly to get you on the right track, He is the best out there on the subject. God Bless & Stay Gold /l\
Thank you panacea, these are testing times indeed. But I'm generally positive 
I agree, the quality and strain are vital information. I believe it is a good quality oil - someone I know used it to overcome lung cancer 2 yrs ago and has been very well on a monthly maintenance dose. I do wish I could know the strain and CBD:THC ratio but I dont have that info. Will ask again. I'm more concerned now reading another thread on here saying that for gynae cancers the oil may have a hormonal effect, it's the first I'm hearing this. Wondering if I'm doing it all right.
I agree, the quality and strain are vital information. I believe it is a good quality oil - someone I know used it to overcome lung cancer 2 yrs ago and has been very well on a monthly maintenance dose. I do wish I could know the strain and CBD:THC ratio but I dont have that info. Will ask again. I'm more concerned now reading another thread on here saying that for gynae cancers the oil may have a hormonal effect, it's the first I'm hearing this. Wondering if I'm doing it all right.
Dave Groomer
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Cajun Splits his time between home and a grow in CO. When he is at work he is limited to his cell phone. When he is at a computer, he will check here!!! You are in the right place!!!! If you want to meet some of the other "oilseeds" stop by HERE. 
Thank you panacea, these are testing times indeed. But I'm generally positive
I agree, the quality and strain are vital information. I believe it is a good quality oil - someone I know used it to overcome lung cancer 2 yrs ago and has been very well on a monthly maintenance dose. I do wish I could know the strain and CBD:THC ratio but I dont have that info. Will ask again. I'm more concerned now reading another thread on here saying that for gynae cancers the oil may have a hormonal effect, it's the first I'm hearing this. Wondering if I'm doing it all right.
I'm glad you found the thread.
Just stick with us and we'll do all we can to help you. Keep that positive mind frame. It's one of your greatest weapons. Your body was made to heal. Believe that with all your being. And good morning Shazzy.
I always walk through the door ready to work and forget the niceties. It's good to meet you. 
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My story is that I was diagnosed with late stage ovarian & cervical cancer which had metastisized to the peritoneum (stomach lining) and a few nodules in the liver in June 2015. I had some integrated treatment elsewhere in Europe but decided not to continue for several reasons, including that tumours were not shrinking after 4 rounds of very expensive treatment. I'd been looking into the oil right from the start but again the sourcing issue held me back.
The first few weeks I felt great, no pain etc, but after a month on the CO my tumour markers ( Ca125 and CEA) had both increased. I was expecting it to go down slightly even, so this came as a disappointment. At this point I felt the usual sleepiness and sometimes the munchies. Otherwise I thought I tolerated the CO rather well.
However the last two weeks -- I've had some symptoms reappearing (including abnormal bleeding) and slight twinges of pain that last a minute or two at most. Also not feeling sleepy, no munchies...am wide awake right now at 2:53am this together with the increased tumour marker causes me to wonder if I'm taking the correct dose and using the most efficient method of getting the CO to the affected organs. Do you think the suppository method (and the mix with coconut oil) is the correct one for my particular issue? Should I be taking coconut oil 30 mins before the suppository?
The oil being hard to come by here is costing me a small fortune, I believe in it totally, but just need to be sure it works to fight off the cancer for me. Can't leave my baby, I must must, must get well.
I understand that you're probably inundated with questions so I would truly appreciate your time & any advice you have that might be useful for me. Should I be taking any supplements that could make the oil work better? Does magnesium contribute? Will start eating mango today
Any help at all will be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks
Hi Shazzy.
I'm sorry for the reason(s) your here.
I'm not able to be on long tonight, but I'll give you my opinion asap. Tomorrow night at the latest.
Sounds like your disease is metastatic or getting there again, so you need a leg up pretty quick.
I'm going to give you some supplements to consider as well as some dosing thoughts.
I do get a little bogged down with pm's, but we're moving you to the front of the line sort of speak.
Hang in there & check back with me Monday?
Try not to dwell on your labs/CEA markers. There's no expiration date on ya.
Try & find out ask you can about your current oil too. That will help move things along quickly for ya.
Chin up. We'll get you lined out.
Many thanks Cajun.
Yes that's right, it had metastised by the time it was diagnosed. In Sep 2015 it was termed "stabilised" but then it was a 3 month delay until I was able to source the oil....so not sure what actual status was when I started the oil.
I have requested some info on the oil & will let you know.
I am so grateful to you, I'm doing all this solo and its stressful.
Yes that's right, it had metastised by the time it was diagnosed. In Sep 2015 it was termed "stabilised" but then it was a 3 month delay until I was able to source the oil....so not sure what actual status was when I started the oil.
I have requested some info on the oil & will let you know.
I am so grateful to you, I'm doing all this solo and its stressful.
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CajunCelt
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Well, you're not solo anymore. You have an instant family of many types of knowledge, experience & compassion here.
I have a good idea what to get ya going with. I just need my laptop.
Read the post/paragraph I wrote about demethylation & cleaning the CB receptors. Be ready to ask ?'s if you don't understand something.
I'll wrap it up for ya tomorrow. I believe you'll be heading in a great direction.
I have a good idea what to get ya going with. I just need my laptop.
Read the post/paragraph I wrote about demethylation & cleaning the CB receptors. Be ready to ask ?'s if you don't understand something.
I'll wrap it up for ya tomorrow. I believe you'll be heading in a great direction.
Many thanks Cajun.
Yes that's right, it had metastised by the time it was diagnosed. In Sep 2015 it was termed "stabilised" but then it was a 3 month delay until I was able to source the oil....so not sure what actual status was when I started the oil.
I have requested some info on the oil & will let you know.
I am so grateful to you, I'm doing all this solo and its stressful.
Check your PMs.
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CajunCelt
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Shazzy,
Ah hah, I've a computer.
So, one of the issues with medicating w/ CCO is are we getting enough cannabinoids into our system?
But, the other (& a biggy) is are the receptors (the CB1 & CB2 mainly) absorbing the cannabinoids?
The receptors can easily become chemically inactivated. They are turned off.
This is called methylation.
Basically, methyl groups (cells) surround the receptor sites & shut them down.
This is why a lot of people do not experience the full healing effect of the CCO, if any sometimes.
I've Stage 4 colon cancer met. to liver. It was proven from a study in 2008 that methyl groups, along with cancer, completely shut down all CB1 receptor sites on the colon in colon cancer patients. This has since been semi-reversed in lots of patients. We now know that if we can cleanse & activate the receptors that the CCO has a strong chance of causing cell death (apoptosis) in cancer.
This is a pretty big issue as it can point to why the CCO is not helping someone's specific disease. The thought even 5 years ago was "oh well, either the oil works on someone or by some weird unknown it doesn't".
Well, we're closer to knowing why it doesn't do a thing for some people now.
I have been trying to spread this knowledge, but as you can see, it gets pretty technical/medical and is not as easy as simply taking it a specific way sometimes.
So you've been using another cancer survivor's oil. That's a good thing. I usually advise to throw it out. I won't in your case. I'm considering your "sourcing" difficulties too.
My personal opinion would be to find out how much THC the oil has if possible so we can use it better. What ratio are the suppositories to oil too?
Forget about CBD (though it would help w/ colon inflammation). You need as high as THC as possible right now.
First, you should demethylate. I'll pm how.
Also, start eating green apples & drinking as much green tea as possible. They are natural demethylating agents. 1/8th teaspoon of ground cinnamon & 1 oz per day of dark chocolate are your new friends now too.
I'm going to send you a phenolic oil mix to demethylate.
Next...supplements.
Taking the supplements (apigenin & amentoflavone) I have on this thread somewhere will reduce clearance of the cannabinoids by >80%. You will save money, oil & your life possibly by taking them. Show these to your oncology team to ensure there are no potential problems. These are not drugs so you should be great. They are found naturally in many foods like cloves.
Take them with 15ml of pure virgin olive oil 30 mins prior to dosing with the CCO.
So...Dosing.
I would suggest you continue with the suppositories. But, I'm going to show you how to supercharge them (not euphoria) with a few ingredients. You will dose with them 5x a day.
Also, due to your liver metastases, insert the suppositories farther than I usually suggest. Insert them as far as possible. 3" minimum. This is so your hepatic vein can carry them straight to your liver.
Use the same recipe for the anal suppositories vaginally as well. We're going to fuss with the cervical/ovarian disease while we're at it.
I can't help you with obtaining the oil, but I'm sure where there's a will there's a way.
Stay on these oil threads pretty regularly/consistently. I'm kinda hit or miss on here, but get a ton of PM's when someone raises a flag.
Ah hah, I've a computer.
So, one of the issues with medicating w/ CCO is are we getting enough cannabinoids into our system?
But, the other (& a biggy) is are the receptors (the CB1 & CB2 mainly) absorbing the cannabinoids?
The receptors can easily become chemically inactivated. They are turned off.
This is called methylation.
Basically, methyl groups (cells) surround the receptor sites & shut them down.
This is why a lot of people do not experience the full healing effect of the CCO, if any sometimes.
I've Stage 4 colon cancer met. to liver. It was proven from a study in 2008 that methyl groups, along with cancer, completely shut down all CB1 receptor sites on the colon in colon cancer patients. This has since been semi-reversed in lots of patients. We now know that if we can cleanse & activate the receptors that the CCO has a strong chance of causing cell death (apoptosis) in cancer.
This is a pretty big issue as it can point to why the CCO is not helping someone's specific disease. The thought even 5 years ago was "oh well, either the oil works on someone or by some weird unknown it doesn't".
Well, we're closer to knowing why it doesn't do a thing for some people now.
I have been trying to spread this knowledge, but as you can see, it gets pretty technical/medical and is not as easy as simply taking it a specific way sometimes.
So you've been using another cancer survivor's oil. That's a good thing. I usually advise to throw it out. I won't in your case. I'm considering your "sourcing" difficulties too.
My personal opinion would be to find out how much THC the oil has if possible so we can use it better. What ratio are the suppositories to oil too?
Forget about CBD (though it would help w/ colon inflammation). You need as high as THC as possible right now.
First, you should demethylate. I'll pm how.
Also, start eating green apples & drinking as much green tea as possible. They are natural demethylating agents. 1/8th teaspoon of ground cinnamon & 1 oz per day of dark chocolate are your new friends now too.
I'm going to send you a phenolic oil mix to demethylate.
Next...supplements.
Taking the supplements (apigenin & amentoflavone) I have on this thread somewhere will reduce clearance of the cannabinoids by >80%. You will save money, oil & your life possibly by taking them. Show these to your oncology team to ensure there are no potential problems. These are not drugs so you should be great. They are found naturally in many foods like cloves.
Take them with 15ml of pure virgin olive oil 30 mins prior to dosing with the CCO.
So...Dosing.
I would suggest you continue with the suppositories. But, I'm going to show you how to supercharge them (not euphoria) with a few ingredients. You will dose with them 5x a day.
Also, due to your liver metastases, insert the suppositories farther than I usually suggest. Insert them as far as possible. 3" minimum. This is so your hepatic vein can carry them straight to your liver.
Use the same recipe for the anal suppositories vaginally as well. We're going to fuss with the cervical/ovarian disease while we're at it.
I can't help you with obtaining the oil, but I'm sure where there's a will there's a way.
Stay on these oil threads pretty regularly/consistently. I'm kinda hit or miss on here, but get a ton of PM's when someone raises a flag.
Thank you Cajun.
It all makes good sense to me.
I've ordered the apigenin and just checking for a high quality amentaflavone. As long as I won't come out of this looking like a body builder though
I've asked for information on how much THC my oil has. Hopefully I'll get an answer tomorrow. But I am getting confused - there seems to be some information out there (while the big web is great for sharing like here, we all know how much wrong info also gets out) that estrogen + cancers are stimulated by THC. What is your opinion on this?
As for the suppository ratio - I'm making up capsules using 0.5ml of CCO with just a few (3-5) drops of coconut oil. However I just read another thread in which you mentioned that a LCFA oil would be better for suppositories. Should I switch to extra virgin olive oil for making my capsule suppositories?
So just to make sure I'm getting it right:
1. Demethylate with green apples, green tea, ground cinnamon & dark choc (finally, something I love!) Can the cinnamon by eaten with something else (honey or maybe on the green apple?)
2. Apigenin & amentaflavone with olive oil 30 mins before CCO?
I've read your story and wanted to ask, did you radically change your diet too? Is no sugar at all something you think plays a role in the success of CCO vs cancer?
Looking forward to hearing about supercharging the CCO doses
Thank you, you've got me excited about healing again.
It all makes good sense to me.
I've ordered the apigenin and just checking for a high quality amentaflavone. As long as I won't come out of this looking like a body builder though
I've asked for information on how much THC my oil has. Hopefully I'll get an answer tomorrow. But I am getting confused - there seems to be some information out there (while the big web is great for sharing like here, we all know how much wrong info also gets out) that estrogen + cancers are stimulated by THC. What is your opinion on this?
As for the suppository ratio - I'm making up capsules using 0.5ml of CCO with just a few (3-5) drops of coconut oil. However I just read another thread in which you mentioned that a LCFA oil would be better for suppositories. Should I switch to extra virgin olive oil for making my capsule suppositories?
So just to make sure I'm getting it right:
1. Demethylate with green apples, green tea, ground cinnamon & dark choc (finally, something I love!) Can the cinnamon by eaten with something else (honey or maybe on the green apple?)
2. Apigenin & amentaflavone with olive oil 30 mins before CCO?
I've read your story and wanted to ask, did you radically change your diet too? Is no sugar at all something you think plays a role in the success of CCO vs cancer?
Looking forward to hearing about supercharging the CCO doses
Thank you, you've got me excited about healing again.
Thank you also to all those who sent me pm's....I feel such relieve knowing I'm in the right place to get advice and share this journey
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I've ordered the apigenin and just checking for a high quality amentaflavone. As long as I won't come out of this looking like a body builder though
Uh oh. I was shooting for a Lou Ferigno, Hulk, kinda look for you. (joking). Eat lots of mangos for amentaflavone. There's more, I'll pm it all to you.
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...But I am getting confused - there seems to be some information out there...that estrogen + cancers are stimulated by THC. What is your opinion on this?
Yes, that is absolutely correct. The issue is when THC is delivered in small, sporadic doses though, not a full-on dosing/treatment regimen. That is exactly why I'm not recommending "tacking" in this case.
No worries. This regimen will not effect E+ illnesses. I've got some tricks for E+ illnesses..
As for the suppository ratio - I'm making up capsules using 0.5ml of CCO with just a few (3-5) drops of coconut oil. However I just read another thread in which you mentioned that a LCFA oil would be better for suppositories. Should I switch to extra virgin olive oil for making my capsule suppositories?
I'll send you a suppository" recipe" so we're on the same page.
Usually, I would recommend a LCFA such as olive oil. In your case, you need the cannabinoids to get to the liver, not avoid it. So, stick with coconut butter. Use butter in lieu of oil for a better consistency in the suppositories of possible. Easier to dose with as it's more solid/thicker.
So just to make sure I'm getting it right:
1. Demethylate with green apples, green tea, ground cinnamon & dark choc (finally, something I love!) Can the cinnamon by eaten with something else (honey or maybe on the green apple?)
Yes. Any carrier for the cinnamon will do. Almond milk is becoming a favorite of alot of patients.
2. Apigenin & amentaflavone with olive oil 30 mins before CCO?
Yep.
I've read your story and wanted to ask, did you radically change your diet too? Is no sugar at all something you think plays a role in the success of CCO vs cancer?
Yes. I cut sugar completely out. Use Stevia, honey or similar instead. Cutting processed sugar out is very important.
Looking forward to hearing about supercharging the CCO doses
It's very simple process & only uses a few common ingredients. But, the difference is day & night. It's called competitive inhibitors.
Thank you, you've got me excited about healing again.
Your story affected me pretty hard due to you being a single mother & I want you to be there for her for many, many moons. I know very well what emotions you're going through. Most here do as well & they will go to great lengths to ease the worry/anxiety for you. Don't hesitate to reach out to them. I'll be here for you for the duration as far as the specific treatment too.
So, I will tailor a daily oil regimen for you. I'll give you a “therapeutic optimal dosing regimen” based on things I won't go into here, but will explain.
70% of that optimal dose will be anal suppositories.
20% will be vaginally suppositories.
10% will be for an infused mix you can add to anything & ready/drink it.
You know to stop sugar.
Consume as much probiotics as you can. The cancer you have attacks the immune system worse than other types. So, yogurt, Omega 3 oil (no flaxseed oil though), Miso soup, ect.
Very important- drink 8 oz of water with 2 tsp of apple cider vinegar 1st thing in the morning. Drink as much as this as possible throughout the day. If you find your lips chapped & not due to weather, you're getting dehydrated. The apple cider vinegar will boost the probiotics & lots of other things.
I'll line out very clearly all of this in the regimen I'll send you. It will also include how to apply the competitive inhibitors as well.
Hang in there gal. You're about to throw down pretty hard with the cancer now.
Dennise
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Good morning Cajun and Super... Let's just pretend this day is just starting.... Good morning my darlin's... Another beautiful day in paradise...:
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