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AdaminCO
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Same... Man! 4’x8’ fills up fast. Lol!
I believe I ended up going 3’x5’ for the net. Played hooky today, so I’ll be down there messing with them.
6 Ladies Cloned Trifecta, 2019, Indoor 4x8 LED
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I believe I ended up going 3’x5’ for the net. Played hooky today, so I’ll be down there messing with them.
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I think I’m starting to understand their appetite. I’ve been monitoring how they react to the different processes I’ve been trying.
It seems like they really like the URB (what I’m calling Micromix) cycle better than the nute cycle. I’ll have a better idea next time I feed. I went 1/4 strength on everything FF last go around. Some of the older leaf sets didn’t like it, but the new growth after that cycle looked healthy.
I’m also noticing that the original 1 gallon BM soil is holding more water than the soil mix I made up for the 3 gallon. It was throwing me off with my watering.
This portion seems to start drying out around 3 days, where it’s taking about 5 days to hit complete dryness. I added perlite and other things to that mixture if you recall so it’s to be expected.
Note to self: Next grow, don’t switch mediums between transplants. Lol!
I ended up hitting the edges with 16oz. of RO in the AM, then hit them with another 16oz of URB+CalMag in Spring water before bedtime.
They seemed to like that pattern. I definitely saw the wilt when I waited the full 5 days. It kind of scared me to be honest. Lol!
I think I’ll alternate between Emilya’s way, and this way and see how they act. Another thing I’ve noticed is a couple weeks back, the two Afghans took longer to dry than the others. Now they all seem to take the same amount before runoff.
Next feed will be a good litmus test.
@InTheShed I know Ive asked about defol, but should I NOT go ahead and clean up underneath the canopy?
I assume because they were clones, I don’t get the usual stem stretch most get from seedlings.
Here are the types of leaves I’m talking about. Most are previous mite damage and look sickly.
It’s really just the 1 Afghan and a 47 that have these small tri leafs everywhere.
The humidity got to 70% at 80 degrees earlier, so some of the leafs are curling.
It seems like they really like the URB (what I’m calling Micromix) cycle better than the nute cycle. I’ll have a better idea next time I feed. I went 1/4 strength on everything FF last go around. Some of the older leaf sets didn’t like it, but the new growth after that cycle looked healthy.
I’m also noticing that the original 1 gallon BM soil is holding more water than the soil mix I made up for the 3 gallon. It was throwing me off with my watering.
This portion seems to start drying out around 3 days, where it’s taking about 5 days to hit complete dryness. I added perlite and other things to that mixture if you recall so it’s to be expected.
Note to self: Next grow, don’t switch mediums between transplants. Lol!
I ended up hitting the edges with 16oz. of RO in the AM, then hit them with another 16oz of URB+CalMag in Spring water before bedtime.
They seemed to like that pattern. I definitely saw the wilt when I waited the full 5 days. It kind of scared me to be honest. Lol!
I think I’ll alternate between Emilya’s way, and this way and see how they act. Another thing I’ve noticed is a couple weeks back, the two Afghans took longer to dry than the others. Now they all seem to take the same amount before runoff.
Next feed will be a good litmus test.
@InTheShed I know Ive asked about defol, but should I NOT go ahead and clean up underneath the canopy?
I assume because they were clones, I don’t get the usual stem stretch most get from seedlings.
Here are the types of leaves I’m talking about. Most are previous mite damage and look sickly.
It’s really just the 1 Afghan and a 47 that have these small tri leafs everywhere.
The humidity got to 70% at 80 degrees earlier, so some of the leafs are curling.
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So these are supposedly the same clones.
Star47xOG Grape Krypt
They look completely different.
The bottom looks more like my Afghan strain, where the top is a sativa looking strain. She’s the only 1 with thin leafs.
Anyone have any thoughts on the two?
Day 1 in soil
Star47xOG Grape Krypt
They look completely different.
The bottom looks more like my Afghan strain, where the top is a sativa looking strain. She’s the only 1 with thin leafs.
Anyone have any thoughts on the two?
Day 1 in soil
When you scrog, you would normally take off every single fan under the net once it's filled in. They won't get any light and you need airflow underneath, so they basically all come off. Leaves, along with any branch that isn't going to make it to the canopy.
As long as you're in veg I would neem the underside of those plants every other day for 3 weeks!
As long as you're in veg I would neem the underside of those plants every other day for 3 weeks!
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I just released another round of predator mites last week, so I’ll start hitting them with neem next week. I think for the time being I’ll trim out all of the small yellowed leaves around the main stem.
I just feel like it’s a breeding ground for issues.
Anything not getting light can go now! Makes cleanup later even easier.
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Hopefully I didn’t get too crazy... 
Neat and tidy, tidy and neat!
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Not too much? About to start the others.
If you're going to scrog them, you would be taking all that off eventually anyway!
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I think them being in week 7, I’m going to top them again. I hear best to do a couple of week before the flip, but I’m still not sure when that is either.
I was researching super cropping so was thinking that as an option too. I think with the defol, I’ll leave some of the bigger branches on that I’d normally cut, squeeze and bend, just to see what it does.
This grow is specifically experimental. I want to weed through the bs information and see what works best.
No doubt I’ll be growing from seeds next go around. Maybe the clones I got were just short.
Best time to flip is when they're big enough for you! So top, let them grow out, and when they are big enough for you, flip 'em. 
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That’s the plan, no rush on my end.Best time to flip is when they're big enough for you! So top, let them grow out, and when they are big enough for you, flip 'em.
Hey, I did see something about SCROG folks not going big enough on the Pots before they drop the screen. IYO are the 3 gallon felts enough to fill a 3x5 screen with 6 plants.
Just watched another video on HST Super cropping... I don’t know man. I’m the type that’ll break the stems. Lol.
I rock my stems back and forth over my thumbnail before I give them the final bend. I've done some pretty woody stems, and if they split...electrical tape!
Supercropping is one of my main training methods for photos.
I try to up-can into the biggest pot I have room for if I'll be vegging for a while. Usually 10 gallon unless I'm flipping them small.
Supercropping is one of my main training methods for photos.
I try to up-can into the biggest pot I have room for if I'll be vegging for a while. Usually 10 gallon unless I'm flipping them small.
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Maybe I can hold off and see if I can find taller instead of wider 10s.
This 4x8s going quick. Lol. Feels like a 4”x8” now.
This 4x8s going quick. Lol. Feels like a 4”x8” now.
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Trimmed up 2 more.
Before
After
Green marked are finished... for now.
(Jack/top-left Afghan/bottom-left), and of course messed up one lady (47bottom-right) attempting a SC HST. A bit of med tape fixed her up.
Before
After
Green marked are finished... for now.
(Jack/top-left Afghan/bottom-left), and of course messed up one lady (47bottom-right) attempting a SC HST. A bit of med tape fixed her up.
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WTH causes this? It wasn’t there last night.
It’s one of the Jacks that has the single leaf sets I mentioned earlier... From around transplant time 3 weeks or so back I think.
Same plant
It’s one of the Jacks that has the single leaf sets I mentioned earlier... From around transplant time 3 weeks or so back I think.
Same plant
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May1- Emilya styleWTH causes this? It wasn’t there last night.
It’s one of the Jacks that has the single leaf sets I mentioned earlier... From around transplant time 3 weeks or so back I think.
Same plant
45mL URB
10 mL FFGB
25 mL FFBB
4 mL Seaweed
3 gal Spring water
300 ppm
6.7 PH no adjustment 6.0 runoff
1/4 of what FF recommended
X2 3 quarts per plant 20-30% runoff
May 8- per plant
16oz. of RO in the AM (outside edges), then hit them with another 16oz of URB+CalMag in Spring water before bedtime
Night Foliage spray May7/8
Spring Water, calmag, FFGB foliage spray
PH 6.2 adjusted down from 7.7
70-80F @ 50-60RH
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Light leak? Indoor plants need to stay dark, when dark. So if you're taking pictures when dark, or have other lighting getting into them while they're "sleeping", bad things tend to happen. Not saying that's the case but it seems like a light/schedule issue
The missing areas of leaf look like something's been nibbling.
Also, too much "pampering", or moving, fussing with, etc... tends to upset them as well. They look like they're slowly showing signs of some kind of external stress.
Ideal temps/RH, for my best grows anyways, was 72degrees F with 30% to 40% RH.
But they don't look too bad, they're still growing fairly well for the most part. I think eventually you'll figure it out. If it were me, I wouldn't foliar spray, I'd cut the nutrients down a bit , keep PH under around 6.4, only water from the top and feed when needed and leave them totally alone, find any light leaking in, after they go dark and not mess with them as much (hardest part for me lol).
Good luck! I'll be following for sure because i really want to see the SCROG!
The missing areas of leaf look like something's been nibbling.
Also, too much "pampering", or moving, fussing with, etc... tends to upset them as well. They look like they're slowly showing signs of some kind of external stress.
Ideal temps/RH, for my best grows anyways, was 72degrees F with 30% to 40% RH.
But they don't look too bad, they're still growing fairly well for the most part. I think eventually you'll figure it out. If it were me, I wouldn't foliar spray, I'd cut the nutrients down a bit , keep PH under around 6.4, only water from the top and feed when needed and leave them totally alone, find any light leaking in, after they go dark and not mess with them as much (hardest part for me lol).
Good luck! I'll be following for sure because i really want to see the SCROG!
I'm with BaG on the nibbling, unless it;s from something mechanical like a fan blade or a cat's mouth! For the curling, that's usually related to humidity, heat, or light. Specific enough?