5 Unknown Strains - 2012 Grow
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Happy Holidays to ya GanjaDon, welcome to my journal 
yeah Merry what they said
Perfect Sun LED
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The roots on the clones look like they have a fungus on them, or the beginning of root rot. Did you add any hydroperoxide to the water? Is that brown stuff sticky at all?
Nice journal, btw.
Nice journal, btw.
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Yea it was the start of root rot, my res temps got out of control & I ran out of hygrozyme. I used the peroxide and it helped out a bit but I transferred them to coco coir. If you check out the previous page it shows the progress of the roots before i transplanted them. I only used DWC/Bubble cloner for cloning.
Thanks for stopping by my journal. Hope you stay around till harvest. Buds are off to a great start
Merry Brixmas and Happy Holidaze WizHigh!!! May your new year be filled with health, happiness and lots of beautiful nugs!!
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Same to you Icemud sweet pic, Stoney Santa!!!
Merry Christmas
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MERRY CHRISTMAS 
FAMILY 
FAMILY
yeah what you said
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Hope everyone is enjoying there Christmas! So what I've been reading up on is how the uptake of P really works. Since P&K is mostly needed for more than just the veg stage it's really important during he flowering as that is what produces the fruits (yield). So I'm focused on trying to give the right amounts of NPK Mg&Ca. They all correspond differently but each effects the uptake of P. So light is half of the process in trying to get the biggest yield and dialing into the soil is he other. Check out the image I've added and read what I e posted to see where I'm going with this. This is also good for Brix!
Interactions
Nitrogen: Many observations have found that P uptake is enhanced when in combination with ammonium N (NH4-N). In most cases, NH4-N has been shown to be superior to other forms of N at enhancing P uptake. This benefit typically requires that the N and P be applied in either a chemically combined form or as a concentrated mixture, such as a banded fertilizer blend. The exact mechanism for this reaction is not clearly understood. However, it is thought that as the NH4-N undergoes nitrification, P uptake is increased. It is also well known that increased N uptake stimulates the uptake of many other elements, and this may play a role in the effect.
Potassium: Potassium has been shown to co-precipitate with P when soluble phosphoric fertilizers are applied to soils. This effect is more pronounced in soils with high exchangeable K levels or with easily decomposed K-bearing minerals. However, this reaction has rarely been demonstrated to have a significant effect on plant growth. There is little or no evidence to show an interaction between P and K within the plant.
Calcium: As mentioned in the section on pH, calcium will combine with P to make insoluble compounds that are unavailable to plants in the short term. The general trend in the reaction is that as the soil Ca content and pH increase more P will combine with Ca to form compounds with ever-decreasing solubility. In these situations, it is typical to find that crops will require a correspondingly higher soil P test for equal growth. Alternatively, growers have seen that banding P fertilizers, especially when the band can be made acidic, improves crop growth in these conditions.
Magnesium: Phosphorus and Mg are often highly reactive in fertilizer manufacturing processes. The result of the reaction being the formation of highly insoluble compounds that coat or clog equipment. However, this effect has not been demonstrated to be a concern in the soil. In fact, much work has shown that Mg fertilization can enhance P uptake by plants. Within plants, Mg is an activator of certain enzymes that are critical to P transfer and as such, proper Mg nutrition would be essential to the uptake and utilization of P within the plant.
Interactions
Nitrogen: Many observations have found that P uptake is enhanced when in combination with ammonium N (NH4-N). In most cases, NH4-N has been shown to be superior to other forms of N at enhancing P uptake. This benefit typically requires that the N and P be applied in either a chemically combined form or as a concentrated mixture, such as a banded fertilizer blend. The exact mechanism for this reaction is not clearly understood. However, it is thought that as the NH4-N undergoes nitrification, P uptake is increased. It is also well known that increased N uptake stimulates the uptake of many other elements, and this may play a role in the effect.
Potassium: Potassium has been shown to co-precipitate with P when soluble phosphoric fertilizers are applied to soils. This effect is more pronounced in soils with high exchangeable K levels or with easily decomposed K-bearing minerals. However, this reaction has rarely been demonstrated to have a significant effect on plant growth. There is little or no evidence to show an interaction between P and K within the plant.
Calcium: As mentioned in the section on pH, calcium will combine with P to make insoluble compounds that are unavailable to plants in the short term. The general trend in the reaction is that as the soil Ca content and pH increase more P will combine with Ca to form compounds with ever-decreasing solubility. In these situations, it is typical to find that crops will require a correspondingly higher soil P test for equal growth. Alternatively, growers have seen that banding P fertilizers, especially when the band can be made acidic, improves crop growth in these conditions.
Magnesium: Phosphorus and Mg are often highly reactive in fertilizer manufacturing processes. The result of the reaction being the formation of highly insoluble compounds that coat or clog equipment. However, this effect has not been demonstrated to be a concern in the soil. In fact, much work has shown that Mg fertilization can enhance P uptake by plants. Within plants, Mg is an activator of certain enzymes that are critical to P transfer and as such, proper Mg nutrition would be essential to the uptake and utilization of P within the plant.
nice cut and paste work 
I also find KingstonCompassion to be a great educational site =)
ill save you a bit of effort as all that reading seems to made you forget to cite your sources
Phosphorus (P) | Cannabis Horticulture
I also find KingstonCompassion to be a great educational site =)
ill save you a bit of effort as all that reading seems to made you forget to cite your sources
Phosphorus (P) | Cannabis Horticulture
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I'm pretty sure just like you most ppl have come across this info on many sites. As where I got it from doesn't really matter as I'm not trying to claim it as my own words or work. It's a simple guid to what I will be following during this grows flowering period. But thanks anyway for posting that for me for the ones who would like to further read up on what I've been reading
Next time ill remember to mention my resources cause I wouldn't want the Internet cops to arrest me for plagiarism!
Next time ill remember to mention my resources cause I wouldn't want the Internet cops to arrest me for plagiarism!
miwa
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I know I keep telling my self that Miwa. I just get bored and start reading and reading and then wonder if its possible
Once I have 100+ plants ill be sure to keep it simple lmao. Ill come help you with your daily routine in the garden I'm so bored lol.
no worries buddy.
I actually find it far more important to cite the source of information than the information itself.
unless your jandre2k, the rest of us often make half assed attempts at experimentation and research, find an intresting nugget of info then move on, leaving the job half done.
at 420 we are in the business of BUSTING myths not accidentally creating them, so it makes sence that we at least make an effort to catalogue our own experiments as best we can and to cite any external sources where possible..
that way the next stoner that wants to pick up where you left off can with out having to spend weeks just trying to get to the point you left it to make sure the data is reputable
for a specific example, conversations seem to be trending in the direction of using copper lined pots to treat certain issues, but your partial cut and paste misses out some interesting information on the relationship between copper and P and your post was all about the p
I actually find it far more important to cite the source of information than the information itself.
unless your jandre2k, the rest of us often make half assed attempts at experimentation and research, find an intresting nugget of info then move on, leaving the job half done.
at 420 we are in the business of BUSTING myths not accidentally creating them, so it makes sence that we at least make an effort to catalogue our own experiments as best we can and to cite any external sources where possible..
that way the next stoner that wants to pick up where you left off can with out having to spend weeks just trying to get to the point you left it to make sure the data is reputable
for a specific example, conversations seem to be trending in the direction of using copper lined pots to treat certain issues, but your partial cut and paste misses out some interesting information on the relationship between copper and P and your post was all about the p
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That would be all fine and dandy Gigs but you must didn't read that to well about copper. They haven't tested that theory on any other crop except for Citris crops. So that may not stand with the plants we are growing. So there was no point in mentioning it here on my journal. You were better off trying to correct me on zinc & phosphorus.
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Quick little update. Its mid of WEEK 3 flower. Just fed them 7.5ml of Bloom & 2.5ml Liquid Kool Bloom. CaMg+ 10ml. If you read my post early about P I would like P to fluctuate more with the help of Ca. Nitrogen help the uptake of P also alot more but I will not add any since there is 4% in Bloom base nutes. Now I really ahvent found out a percentage to exactly know what amount of N is needed for a more rapid uptake of P but if its mentioned some where on the internet I will sure find it. But as we all know excess N also disrupts the process of flowering. So ill let that part of it go. This is not a test that Im trying to run its simply trying to boost the fruits during flowering to gain a bigger yield on top of me using Bloom boosters. Ok here go a couple pics of whats going on with the girls. Continue to have a Blessed and Happy Holiday Fam!!!
Fam!!!
thanks wiz...my point exactly.
so who exactly do you think will be wanting to test it, considering i just said about copper pots trending....us at 420 =p
iSmokes
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gairbud mentioned using the copper method with success to prevent root-bound stress