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re: Irish Boy's - 480W & 720w Grow LED Hydro - Land Of Clovers

molotov said:
I just got the same product last week Irish. I've watered my clones with it twice so far but to early to tell. I've also heard great things about it.
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cool bro keep me posted on it for sure and i will do like wise. will figure out how it works by out results. the dude at the hydro store that i know pretty well was telling me he trys all kinds of things but this always made him impressed. he said he would water 1/2 of his rockwell plants with it and a few days latter they would have allot more bigger roots then the others. GH is coming out with a root enhancer in about 4 weeks that suppose to be better and cheaper then the house and garden one. roots excel or whatever its called? ive heard that really good also.
 
re: Irish Boy's - 480W & 720w Grow LED Hydro - Land Of Clovers

Lookin good Irish~~ I happen to be bit Irish too

While the topic is about crf's, and the temps & relative humidy is down in a lot of locales, can the temps of the water cause a release of the crfs??
 
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Tmac12 said:
Lookin good Irish~~ I happen to be bit Irish too

While the topic is about crf's, and the temps & relative humidy is down in a lot of locales, can the temps of the water cause a release of the crfs??
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wow my Irish friend, that is a very good question? :bravo:
IDK? but it seems it would have a effect on them. i am sure you would still want u water to be around 70F and be fine. wouldn't warm water warm ur medium and cold water cool ur medium thus far effecting the release of the TRF. not counting about different water types can effect ur roots and plants. they prills were made to be in temps around 70F and roots like water around their so it would work out good. we should always chill our water if needed to or make sure its not too cold.

this is my take on it, but i dont know for sure? very good question though:bravo::bravo:
 
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Oh ya Doc i see you have learned that you can shut off ur OC+ with colder temps. well my grow right now in the tent has been cold like around 68-70F so we will see if the DM does the same. i would really hate to run my 1500w heater to heat my room because i rather just run 1500w of light and heat up my room.lol. so lets see how they take to it. if things look like their getting to cold ill add some Silica to help the girls.
 
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Hope the Scots part wont put you off~~ ;) And thanks for the bravos.
I have thought about that for some time since reading temps can release crf. Wondered if it could be a benefit to raise the water temps a bit when temps are down....and you have to water. It is very dry in my tri-level house in the winter. We heat most of the time with a wood stove, being in the bottom level, below the flower close. Cant think of any way to raise the humidity. Could put a small heater in the closet I suppose.
 
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Tmac12 said:
Hope the Scots part wont put you off~~ ;) And thanks for the bravos.
I have thought about that for some time since reading temps can release crf. Wondered if it could be a benefit to raise the water temps a bit when temps are down....and you have to water. It is very dry in my tri-level house in the winter. We heat most of the time with a wood stove, being in the bottom level, below the flower close. Cant think of any way to raise the humidity. Could put a small heater in the closet I suppose.
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Raising humidity is easy. Go to rite-aid and get a humidifier. It'll set you back about 40 bucks....money well spent, imo.

Dehumidifiers run about 200 bucks.....or get an AC that also dehumidifies for about 400.

This is all stuff that we should strive to have in our small, hobby grows.
 
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Tmac12 said:
Hope the Scots part wont put you off~~ ;) And thanks for the bravos.
I have thought about that for some time since reading temps can release crf. Wondered if it could be a benefit to raise the water temps a bit when temps are down....and you have to water. It is very dry in my tri-level house in the winter. We heat most of the time with a wood stove, being in the bottom level, below the flower close. Cant think of any way to raise the humidity. Could put a small heater in the closet I suppose.
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a few cheap things i do to raise my RH% i could hang a wet towel kinda helps, but what i do is put a 5 gal bucket in my grow space and a few air stones and the RH% just up for me. you can also play with ur ventilation and slow it down and that will raise ur RH%. if you have money then a humidifier or get a swap cooler they throw out tons of RH% the swamp cooler will help cool things down a little when its hot but throw out tons of RH%
DocBud said:
Raising humidity is easy. Go to rite-aid and get a humidifier. It'll set you back about 40 bucks....money well spent, imo.

Dehumidifiers run about 200 bucks.....or get an AC that also dehumidifies for about 400.

This is all stuff that we should strive to have in our small, hobby grows.
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yup specially a Dehumidifier! Mold is not fun
 
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We have a dehumidifer for the lower floor in the summer. Next year we need to rip the paneling from our lower floor, moisture seems to seep in and we need to seal the wall that is underground or somehow waterproof the outside.

What is a swamp cooler? by humidifier do you mean the kind for a sick child?
 
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Tmac12 said:
We have a dehumidifer for the lower floor in the summer. Next year we need to rip the paneling from our lower floor, moisture seems to seep in and we need to seal the wall that is underground or somehow waterproof the outside.

What is a swamp cooler? by humidifier do you mean the kind for a sick child?
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humidifier puts moister in ur air.

a swamp cooler uses moister to cool ur house in the heat. if you have low RH% then they work good but if you have high RH% then their useless for cooling. lots of people use them to cool their rooms/house in dry areas.
 
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Looks like trouble is already starting to take place, last night i notice on 2 of my plants i am getting these little rust color dots witch i believe its a cal def. i am thinking its because all the TRF are scattered around and the roots arnt getting to iy yet. all though i did feed them the Bio-tone starter plus and they shouldn't be getting that unless it takes a while to break down? ill give them some cal mag when i feed to help them, maybe take a few pics of it.
 
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Wd. like to see some pictures Irish...I may have something similar going on....
 
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IrishBoy said:
Looks like trouble is already starting to take place, last night i notice on 2 of my plants i am getting these little rust color dots witch i believe its a cal def. i am thinking its because all the TRF are scattered around and the roots arnt getting to iy yet. all though i did feed them the Bio-tone starter plus and they shouldn't be getting that unless it takes a while to break down? ill give them some cal mag when i feed to help them, maybe take a few pics of it.
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Yah looks like a pretty fresh cutting I am sure she will get settled in with a little help of your experteic.I noticed you picked up some of that holland root stuff.Realy looking forward to hearing your thoughts on it.I have been wanting to pick some up but have not had the extra funds.
 
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hogs said:
Wd. like to see some pictures Irish...I may have something similar going on....
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give me like a hour when the lights come on.
turttle said:
Yah looks like a pretty fresh cutting I am sure she will get settled in with a little help of your experteic.I noticed you picked up some of that holland root stuff.Realy looking forward to hearing your thoughts on it.I have been wanting to pick some up but have not had the extra funds.
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ya its because i didnt charge the medium and i have 50% coco. the time release ferts probably haven't kicked it.

i did have the Green Fuse roots but i just took it back right now for some other stuff, after thinking last night $40.00 a quart is allot of money just to use for a few weeks of bloom. i traded for some General Organics, i was able to get allot more bang for the same price. everyone around here is going nuts over the GO line, my friend told me from using the G.O. Roots she has roots coming out of her 5 gal pots in the 3rd week of bloom. so its doing something.lol

I was able to get a quart of general organic Roots and Bio weed and a shot glass to measure for the same price of the Green Fuse roots. ive been wanting to use seaweed, its has allot of good benefits for plants. when i run out of the Green Fuse Bloom i want to try their Bio Bud its the same price but you can use 1/2tbs per gal instead of 3/4 like GF
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OK...here are my thoughts on this:

1.)coco. I had trouble with it too. I don't understand how to grow in it, so I can't help you fix it....but the same thing plagued me.

2.)LED. Something to think about....but maybe something about these lights alter plant metabolism in some way? You had a most unusual grow last cycle....what was it a 24 week flowering period or something like that? Maybe these lights require some tweaks in nutrients....I dunno, it's mere speculation.

I would start foliar feeding with Calmag and just be done with it! Don't add more Ca to the mix....you've already got plenty. Just keep 'em green and wait till the roots start taking it all up.

As for the TRF's....they start working immediately. You can see this for yourself if you put them in water and wait and hour, measuring the PPM before and after.
 
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It kinda looks light a slight ph change and maybe slight lock out.It may be the light change and intensity having some affect.I think maybe a slight mix of cal mag and the root toner @ maybe 100ppm in a skirt bottle and maybe only run one light till cuttings are established..I think..:tokin:
 
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DocBud said:
OK...here are my thoughts on this:

1.)coco. I had trouble with it too. I don't understand how to grow in it, so I can't help you fix it....but the same thing plagued me.

2.)LED. Something to think about....but maybe something about these lights alter plant metabolism in some way? You had a most unusual grow last cycle....what was it a 24 week flowering period or something like that? Maybe these lights require some tweaks in nutrients....I dunno, it's mere speculation.

I would start foliar feeding with Calmag and just be done with it! Don't add more Ca to the mix....you've already got plenty. Just keep 'em green and wait till the roots start taking it all up.

As for the TRF's....they start working immediately. You can see this for yourself if you put them in water and wait and hour, measuring the PPM before and after.
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i dont really think its the lights. i was thinking that at 1st but i had a grow with the 600w had no problems feeding GH Flora series, I truly think its from mixing the TRF threw the whole medium and not pre charging the coco, the roots are are too small to get all the food scattered in the medium. makes perfect sense to me. if the food was above or in the whole i put the clones in they would be getting the food right away. I truly dont think its best to mix threw out the Medium, i know for sure next time i am going to mix them in at the root level or at least put some of them in the root hole. I just dont see no real benefit to mixing the TRF threw the whole medium besides keeping it cooler in the hot summer temps.

heres as thought.. as you were saying you could shut off the OC+ in colder temps, so that has me thinking that the nutes being buried low into the medium isn't a good choice because its going to stay cooler and shut of the nutes right? who knows how DM works in colder temps? could be total trash and OC+ is the better option? if things are going to get crazy out of hand i will just start feeding cal/mag and say screw the matter magic, if its more then Cal/mag then ill just top dress with OC+ or DM purple.

Now i might have just F'ed up because i didnt see ur post 1st. i just feed them cal/mag and stuff threw the roots, didnt even cross my mind to foliar spray them. damn!!

thats great info to know about them feeding right away, i did not know this,

thanks as always Doc. DM is still new and theirs allot to learn,But at the end of the day i bet its the coco and i am just starting my journey with it. failing isn't an option for me:) i need to make this work
hogs said:
Cannabis Plant and Pest Problem Solver - Pictorial

Irish, I am sure you have seen these before on this forum, looks like yours is perhaps.... Scrool down till ya get to:

Solution to fixing a Calcium deficiency

Looks alot like yours What ya think?
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i was just looking at that before you posted it, but i didnt know their was a in house link. thanks for that! that same guide has helped me allot and by u posting it you just help allot of others.
good man!:bravo:
 
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