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420 Magazine's Official Girl Scout Cookies Comparative Grow By ProfessorFlora
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Hey @BakedARea if you are transplanting into soil with a charge of Geoflora on the same day you are supposed to top-dress per the schedule, you would not need to apply an additional top-dress until 2 weeks after transplant. With that said, applying the top-dress to soil that is already charged with Geoflora should not cause any issues and will just ensure there are plenty of nutrients available for your plants.
Hope this helps!
Thanks GF Team for the response! They all got some extra! Haaa haaa
And they are looking super stoked with it too!
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Thank you Mars. Your light is making that growing even happier.Happy growing
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Hey 420. TIme for some more Girl Scout Cookies goodness. Today's update is a good one as we see the GSC #2 looking much better and I have also taken a cutting from each plant. First let's see how the coco organics are getting on....
As you can see, GSC #2 has had no problems catching up. Some of the yellowing has disappeared and she looks much better. Also I have noticed that both plants are beginning to look more similar. There were a few noticeable differences before which are disappearing. Things like leaf shape and general growth pattern. Now there isn't much between them and I feel that I may even need to label the clones. We will get to those next but first here are the vegging Girl Scout Cookies on day 49....
I decided it was safe enough to take some cuttings and see how well they root....
You may be asking why the jars? Well, the truth is that I'm terrible at cloning and this is the easiest way I have found in which I can consistently get cuttings to root. I have had roots in 8 days with this method though it usually takes around 10 to 14 days. I use the 2" neoprene disc's which fit perfectly into the top of many jars you'd find on the supermarket shelf. I like these jars as the glass is dark which shades the roots from the light. The jars are then filled with tap water which is left to reach room temperature before I put a cutting in there. I shouldn't have to refill any of these but sometimes a cutting will drink most of the water so I may intervene if that happens but I like to just put them away and forget about them. They go up on the shelf in my bedroom out of direct sunlight, grabbing hands and cats. I've found that it works better this way than in my tents and I'm not sure why....
Fingers crossed that we will be seeing them again soon.
Happy growing everyone.
As you can see, GSC #2 has had no problems catching up. Some of the yellowing has disappeared and she looks much better. Also I have noticed that both plants are beginning to look more similar. There were a few noticeable differences before which are disappearing. Things like leaf shape and general growth pattern. Now there isn't much between them and I feel that I may even need to label the clones. We will get to those next but first here are the vegging Girl Scout Cookies on day 49....
I decided it was safe enough to take some cuttings and see how well they root....
You may be asking why the jars? Well, the truth is that I'm terrible at cloning and this is the easiest way I have found in which I can consistently get cuttings to root. I have had roots in 8 days with this method though it usually takes around 10 to 14 days. I use the 2" neoprene disc's which fit perfectly into the top of many jars you'd find on the supermarket shelf. I like these jars as the glass is dark which shades the roots from the light. The jars are then filled with tap water which is left to reach room temperature before I put a cutting in there. I shouldn't have to refill any of these but sometimes a cutting will drink most of the water so I may intervene if that happens but I like to just put them away and forget about them. They go up on the shelf in my bedroom out of direct sunlight, grabbing hands and cats. I've found that it works better this way than in my tents and I'm not sure why....
Fingers crossed that we will be seeing them again soon.
Happy growing everyone.
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Hey 420. I've decided to put the Girl Scout Cookies into flower on the 1st of July. The reason for this is simply that it works out better for the rest of my grow room. I get the chance to synchronise everything and also to have a good clean down before dropping more plants into flower. It makes sense to me. What this means is that the plants will get a good veg. Maybe a bit too good. I can see lots of roots coming out of the bottom of the pots now and I'm wondering if they will get root bound half way through flower. I'm probably worrying about nothing as the pots are quite large (5 gal).
Anyway, on with today's update.
Both of the @Weed Seeds Express Girl Scout Cookies are still growing nicely but it has become quite apparent that they is a calmag issue. It's nothing to worry about and I'm sure that we'll fix it before flower but it isn't very pretty. I've gotten around to checking out many of the comparison journals and I'm seeing some beautiful green plants with several looking quite similar. Mine look a bit weird and have a more droopy-fingered leaf and very squat appearance. I'm putting it down to the coco media which gives plants hydro growth. I will be regrowing at least one of these, if not both, as soon as I've finished flowering them but I will run soil instead to see how they should/could look. These are due a bit of a tidy up but I don't want to stress them at the moment and will wait to see if they get better or worse before cutting them up. Let's have a look at them on day 53 from seed which was actually last night....
They are still looking a bit yellow but seem to be slowly getting better. The tops look good but the bottoms are a bit messy....
I can't wait to see what happens in flower. I think they will blow up as they have a lot of sides and tight nodal spacing. A couple more weeks then we flip!
WSE GSC Root News Special!
On a final note, one of the cuttings which is being cloned in a jar of water has a root popping out already. I make that 5 days to show some activity which is pretty fast. They wont be coming out just yet though and I shouldn't get ahead of myself. It could still take a while before I feel happy enough to remove them and put them into some soil....
Breaking Root News! It now has several roots beginning to emerge. Root news moves fast lol....
Apologies for the pic quality. It's a bit like a Big Foot photo.
Happy growing everyone.
Anyway, on with today's update.
Both of the @Weed Seeds Express Girl Scout Cookies are still growing nicely but it has become quite apparent that they is a calmag issue. It's nothing to worry about and I'm sure that we'll fix it before flower but it isn't very pretty. I've gotten around to checking out many of the comparison journals and I'm seeing some beautiful green plants with several looking quite similar. Mine look a bit weird and have a more droopy-fingered leaf and very squat appearance. I'm putting it down to the coco media which gives plants hydro growth. I will be regrowing at least one of these, if not both, as soon as I've finished flowering them but I will run soil instead to see how they should/could look. These are due a bit of a tidy up but I don't want to stress them at the moment and will wait to see if they get better or worse before cutting them up. Let's have a look at them on day 53 from seed which was actually last night....
They are still looking a bit yellow but seem to be slowly getting better. The tops look good but the bottoms are a bit messy....
I can't wait to see what happens in flower. I think they will blow up as they have a lot of sides and tight nodal spacing. A couple more weeks then we flip!
WSE GSC Root News Special!
On a final note, one of the cuttings which is being cloned in a jar of water has a root popping out already. I make that 5 days to show some activity which is pretty fast. They wont be coming out just yet though and I shouldn't get ahead of myself. It could still take a while before I feel happy enough to remove them and put them into some soil....
Breaking Root News! It now has several roots beginning to emerge. Root news moves fast lol....
Apologies for the pic quality. It's a bit like a Big Foot photo.
Happy growing everyone.
Are you feeding any calcium magnesium? Looks a lot like nitrogen deficiency. How long have your ladies been in the fabric? Reason I ask is I havnt grown in fabric myself but if you think your getting root bound I'd try and re-pot before tossing into flower my friend. I've flowered out plants that have been in pot a little tooo long before and it was a seed show! Cheers buddy looking great!
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Hey Moto. I'm not feeding any extra calmag at the moment and I agree with you that they look a bit nitrogen starved. GSC #2 has been like that for a long time, pretty much since the beginning. Even when I was feeding her MC she was noticeably more pale than #1. My next move which I forgot to mention in the update is to increase the next feed of GeoFlora from 5g to perhaps 7 or 8. I don't know where I'm getting those numbers but I think they need a good bump. Apparently GF won't hurt so I'm not worried about going overboard. There is also the possibility that they are actually in a pot which is too big and too wet for them at the moment. It may just be that when the roots get a better hold then the plants will improve. I really hope so as I don't want to do another transplant and disturb the root zone. Plus I want to save my last packs of Dynamyco and Earth's Alive for the next round.
We'll sort it out.
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Just been and double checked and I should be using enough. I should also mention now that I keep saying grams instead of ounces when talking about measurements. 5 grams is certainly not enough lol.
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Hey 420. I decided that I had had enough of looking at those sickly leaves and went ahead with the pruning. I think they look much better....
Now I'm aware that if you remove a problem from sight that doesn't nesicarilly mean that you've solved the problem but I genuinely believe that they were on the mend. At the rate at which they were growing they will likely need something else done to them before flower whether it is a light trim or another decent chop like this one. I'm just happy that there are no yellow leaves anymore. They don't show up well on the camera lol.
Happy growing everyone.
Now I'm aware that if you remove a problem from sight that doesn't nesicarilly mean that you've solved the problem but I genuinely believe that they were on the mend. At the rate at which they were growing they will likely need something else done to them before flower whether it is a light trim or another decent chop like this one. I'm just happy that there are no yellow leaves anymore. They don't show up well on the camera lol.
Happy growing everyone.
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Looks awesome and makes me feel better about all the times I just removed some leaves on impulse. You did a great job with yours.
Websissy
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I’m growing in soil and around the same day as you are but mine had a nice green color until 2 of my 4 plants’ leaves started to yellow and then get rust color spots. I added CalMag over the past week and it’s helping. Your plant’s leaves are very light green though which looks more like a nitrogen issue.
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Cheers MG. That was quite a rough trim especially when you consider that I didn't even use snips. I just pulled it all off using my fingers lol. In my experience most of the time these plants can handle a lot of abuse though there are some which crumble under smaller amounts of pressure. The @Weed Seeds Express Girl Scout Cookies seem solid enough to me and are still growing.
Hey Websissy. I definitely did have the calmag issues and it was much more noticeable before. I do still think that there is an issue but I'm just trying to work out what it is. I have lowered the pH of my water now to see if that helps. It was 7.1 before so now I'm dropping it to 6.5 using lemon juice. I'll drop some pics shortly to show you all how they have responded to the heavy trim.
Small stressors are supposed to help our plant grow better and stronger. Things like the wet/dry cycle, a fan in the grow room, selective pruning, topping, etc. all force the plant to marshal its defenses. And one of its most important defenses are those little mushroom heads with the magical goodies. As long as you don't overdo it, or course.
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Happy Saturday Professor! I too have been just pinching off the leaves. I was at it again after last night. They always seem to come back so strong. Looking forward to the photo update. Have a great weekend
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Hey Azimuth. Small stressors? Have you ever seen one of my grows? I'm unbearably stressful sometimes lol. Only kidding but I know what you mean. One of the things I'm pretty good at is getting plants to produce decent frost. Now if I could just work on my yields lol.
I'll go with happy Saturday! Apologies for not dropping the update yesterday so here it is now with added stress.
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Hey 420. So after looking at the plants and going over my very loose plans I decided that we have enough time for another topping. So I did just that. We now have twice as many tops as before though they are currently small and weak. Over the next couple of weeks they will develop and I may even have to do one last small tidy up before hitting flower on the 1st of next month....
Other things to report on are that the plants are looking a better shade of green and will be due another feed soon. With this watering I will introduce some bloom nutrients at a lower strength. Probably a third of the strength or so and then start with the introduction proper on the following watering. I want to get some flowering nutrients into the pots well before the plants need them.
The cuttings are both still going as well. The one with the roots showing shouldn't take too much longer now but number 2 is still yet to show anything of much worth. It feels like I'm forgetting something important but hey. I know where to come if I remember lol.
Happy growing everyone.
Other things to report on are that the plants are looking a better shade of green and will be due another feed soon. With this watering I will introduce some bloom nutrients at a lower strength. Probably a third of the strength or so and then start with the introduction proper on the following watering. I want to get some flowering nutrients into the pots well before the plants need them.
The cuttings are both still going as well. The one with the roots showing shouldn't take too much longer now but number 2 is still yet to show anything of much worth. It feels like I'm forgetting something important but hey. I know where to come if I remember lol.
Happy growing everyone.
Good morning, Prof.
When you say another topping, did you mean another topping of the same plant or did you mean another plant needed to be topped?
If the answer is the first one, did you top it a second time in order to train it (quadline?)?
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Hey HashGirl.
The other day I removed all of the growth from each branch on both plants except from the tips. Today I removed those tips from each branch leaving two smaller tips or tops if you like, to take their place. A few days before I flip both plants to flower I will remove all of the growth right up to the tips of each branch again leaving only the tops to go into flower. This should create a tabletop canopy and minimise lower grow saving me having to trim up the plants as much in the future. I hope I explained that well enough.