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[Mr. Krip]

WHY I LST EARLY

I wanted to briefly explain why, after doing the UBT and the four colas are long enough, I immediately start LST'ing and spread them out.

The obvious benefit is that this forces the plants to start bushing out and sending out side shoots from those main colas and this is definitely one of the reasons. But, maybe even more important, I'm trying to control the height right from the beginning.

One of the "keys" to large yields is in letting the plants get mature with thick stems that can support heavy buds. So, I want to try to keep the plants as short as possible for as long as possible before flipping. If/when the canopy gets too thick (and, it does!), I can always remove the smaller stalks, but I don't want to have to flip too early due to a tall, immature, plant.

It's much easier to control the height when you start early.

Happy Harvests!

K

 

[Billpopy79]

WHY I LST EARLY

I wanted to briefly explain why, after doing the UBT and the four colas are long enough, I immediately start LST'ing and spread them out.

The obvious benefit is that this forces the plants to start bushing out and sending out side shoots from those main colas and this is definitely one of the reasons. But, maybe even more important, I'm trying to control the height right from the beginning.

One of the "keys" to large yields is in letting the plants get mature with thick stems that can support heavy buds. So, I want to try to keep the plants as short as possible for as long as possible before flipping. If/when the canopy gets too thick (and, it does!), I can always remove the smaller stalks, but I don't want to have to flip too early due to a tall, immature, plant.

It's much easier to control the height when you start early.

Happy Harvests!

K

This is definitely something for me to note, I usually only start LST after around a month, this run I have every single branch supported as they just can't hold the weight of the buds.


Next run I'll try starting LST as soon as I have something to tie down after topping.

 

[TriangleCheese]

This is definitely something for me to note, I usually only start LST after around a month, this run I have every single branch supported as they just can't hold the weight of the buds.


Next run I'll try starting LST as soon as I have something to tie down after topping.

Any kind of training should start as soon as possible to maximize the benefits. Strong stalk is a key factor like Mr.Krip said and I like to step in to add something here. Mr.Krip's way of removing smaller and inefficient branches before flowering is great. Like he said, you can't always achieve the final desired structure in flowering and it is always better done in veg. We have as much time as we want as long as we stay in veg. and therefore we can shape our plants the way we want, no matter which training method we are using.

Personally, I like longer veg. because when your plants gets huge in veg, it gets harder for them to support their body even without buds and since they are trying to support their huge body, the stalks lean to get thicker. That is pretty much like the wind effect on the main stem girth. And if you achieve a strong structure in veg. then your plants don't waste their energy on bulking stems but nugs on flowering. I think that is also something to keep in mind

 

[Mr. Krip]

This is definitely something for me to note, I usually only start LST after around a month, this run I have every single branch supported as they just can't hold the weight of the buds.


Next run I'll try starting LST as soon as I have something to tie down after topping.

That happened to me on my last round. I was in a rush to flip and wound up with a bunch of smaller, weaker colas that all needed support. Only real difference is I didn't even give them support...I just let them fall over and lowered the lights!

 

[Mr. Krip]

Any kind of training should start as soon as possible to maximize the benefits. Strong stalk is a key factor like Mr.Krip said and I like to step in to add something here. Mr.Krip's way of removing smaller and inefficient branches before flowering is great. Like he said, you can't always achieve the final desired structure in flowering and it is always better done in veg. We have as much time as we want as long as we stay in veg. and therefore we can shape our plants the way we want, no matter which training method we are using.

Personally, I like longer veg. because when your plants gets huge in veg, it gets harder for them to support their body even without buds and since they are trying to support their huge body, the stalks lean to get thicker. That is pretty much like the wind effect on the main stem girth. And if you achieve a strong structure in veg. then your plants don't waste their energy on bulking stems but nugs on flowering. I think that is also something to keep in mind

Exactly & well-said!

 

[Billpopy79]

Great advice thanks guys, I will 100% take a different approach and focus on building a stronger structure in veg.

 

[oldsmokey]

I always start as early as I can for the same reasons.

 

[Mr. Krip]

QUICK PIC UPDATE

The girls got another watering today and, this time, I added the Terpinator (for the green strains) and Purpinator (for the purple strains) and will keep them on those amendments throughout the rest of the grow. They're starting to drink almost every other day, now, so, in about a week, or so, they should be rootbound enough to transplant into the #10 GeoPots.

Here are today's pics taken under the NextLight Mega...

Group pic:

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• Mr. Krip
• Jul 7, 2020

Platinum Cake:

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• Mr. Krip
• Jul 7, 2020

Dark Ghost Train:

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• Mr. Krip
• Jul 7, 2020

Tropicanna Cookies x Slurricane:

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• Mr. Krip
• Jul 7, 2020

Mendocino Purple Kush:

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• Mr. Krip
• Jul 7, 2020

Happy Harvests!

K

 

[NorCaliwood]

Drive-by

 

[bluter]

nice seeing the conversation on stalk size and strength.

currently in the middle of a mess surrounding this. i don't grow huge plants, but the bud size relative to the stalks is pretty big, and i always have trouble keeping the plants upright let alone the buds.

have caged before, which helps but is not ideal. i have to move them across town at some point, which makes caging in veg problematic.

the real trouble is i don't finish them completely on my own. my pops takes care of things in flower and he insists on being able to move them in and out of the space. then whines incessantly on how difficult it is. would like to get the whole grow under the same roof some time.

 

[Graytail]

I personally prefer smaller buds. Unless things are all larfy, I think I get as much from a plant with dozens of colas as I do from a plant with just a few mains. I think the best nugs are thumb-sized.

 

[Mr. Krip]

STRAIN INFORMATION

Looking a the tent from the front, on the left are the Medical Seeds Mendo Purple Kush in back and Rare Dankness Dark Ghost Train in the front; and on the right side are the two Inhouse Genetics strains with the Platinum Cake in back and Tropicanna Cookies x Slurricane in the front (pic from previous post):

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• Mr. Krip
• Jul 7, 2020

Here are some details on the strains...

DARK GHOST TRAIN:

Dark Ghost Train is a cross with Grape Ape and the very popular 25%+ THC Ghost Train Haze #1 which has won numerous awards as well as being the “Annual winner of High Times Strongest Strains On Earth”. Expect trichome covered nugs with a big grape flavour!

Dark Ghost Train is a reasonably fast-flowering cannabis strain that can be ready in just 56 days of flowering although some plants may need as much as another ten days to be ready to harvest. Despite average yields the results are more than worthwhile due to its superb sweet, grapey flavour, high resin production and wonderful, powerful high.

MENDOCINO PURPLE KUSH

Mendocino x Purple Kush is a popular strain that has won more than 12 awards since 2014. The plant is an epic blend of Mendocino Purple and Purple Kush, a plant famous for its incredible high and narcotic-like effect. The combination is 60% indica and 40% sativa, and like the name suggests, the strain provides long, leafy, purple buds.

Mendocino Purple Kush by Medical Seeds is a multiple award-winning hybrid of Purple Kush and Mendo Purps. It is a robust marijuana plant with large leaves and big dank colorful buds. For indoor cultivation, SOG or SCROG is recommended. Outdoors, the plants can grow big and are finished by early-October. The various phenotypes give color ranges from green to deep violet. Sweet tasting, rock hard stoney buds.

PLATINUM CAKE

Inhouse Genetics strikes again and a strike it is! A beautiful marriage between the renown Wedding Cake and the back bone of so many strain of InHouse Genetics, the Platinum.

TROPICANNA COOKIES X SLURRICANE

Slurricane Marijuana Seeds – In House Genetics Seed Bank

Expect extremely sugar coated flowers with an OG/tropical flavour. They acquire a beautiful fall colouring, at the end of the flowering phase, what makes them incredibly attractive.

Lineage: Dosidos x Purple Punch
Feminized
Flower time: 60-75 days
Flower type: hybrid
Stretch: med-tall
Yield: med





CROSSED WITH:





Oni Seed Co Tropicanna Cookies F2 Regular Cannabis Seeds



Get ready to meet one of the Crown Jewels out of Oni Seed Co range. Tropicanna Cookies is a creation made by crossing Forum Girl Scout Cookies and Tangie male. Its father has a tendency of changing everything he touches into gold – this unique hybrid is a another example of strain made by crossing Tangie male which in a short period of time become legendary and hit the cannabis seeds market hard! The level of its orange, cinnamon and sugary aroma is unbearable for most of the people due to its heaviness. Its outstanding aroma and beautiful appearance makes it one of a kind.



Genetics : (Forum GSC x Tangie) x (Forum GSC x Tangie)

Flowering Time : 63-70 Days

Last time I grew Platinum Cake it was green buds but still looked awesome, and was/is some fantastic meds:

And, I didn't realize the Tropicanna Cookies x Slurricane was also a purple strain.

I think I might hold off on the Terpinator and give them all the Purpinator to see what happens?

We could have a lot of purple this round, which is kinda funny cuz' normally I look at the purple strains for bag appeal, which isn't important to me since I don't sell commercially. The green strains always seem more potent, though, I'm hoping these will be some exceptions!

Happy Harvests!

K

 

[NorCaliwood]

Drive-by

I hear this is a good product too for color enhancement.

Purple Maxx

 

[bluter]

Drive-by

I hear this is a good product too for color enhancement.

Purple Maxx

he might be running purpinator

 

[Botanical Bondage]

Purple strains seem to have a flavor I really dig. Especially GDP but that has a flavor all its own

I agree about topping and lst/training early. I never understood growing a 8 inch plqnt and cutting half off. Why not get in there and trim asap. Or maybe ooops FIM.

When I learned about topping was almost 2 decades ago and I had to kinda figure it out on my own. So, I like to bend over the main stem shortly after topping.

I have some pepper bushes with S curves in them.

One drawback is it makes it more difficult to get in there and water because all those branches are right over the dirt at the top of the pot.[i guess thats why people grow 3 foot plants and strip the bottom foot.]But if youre working with 5 feet of headspace. You cant afford the bare foot.

Also all those secondaries on the main make their own colas and you end up with 20-30 tops.

Keep up the great work. Cant wait to see some frost.
Im so jealous of everyone and their fancy genetics.

My friend just gave me a bud of GG4xblue dream that I think was local, and man its tasty. Both those strains are on my wish list.

 

[TriangleCheese]

I personally prefer smaller buds. Unless things are all larfy, I think I get as much from a plant with dozens of colas as I do from a plant with just a few mains. I think the best nugs are thumb-sized.

That is a nice detail to discuss. I also think that firm small nugs are better but not sure what the actual reason is. In my grows, these lower dense nugs are accidental but I think they are slightly more potent and taste sweeter because they have a longer distance to light than the colas. I can't think of any other reason.

 

[TriangleCheese]

STRAIN INFORMATION

Looking a the tent from the front, on the left are the Medical Seeds Mendo Purple Kush in back and Rare Dankness Dark Ghost Train in the front; and on the right side are the two Inhouse Genetics strains with the Platinum Cake in back and Tropicanna Cookies x Slurricane in the front (pic from previous post):

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• Mr. Krip
• Jul 7, 2020

Here are some details on the strains...

DARK GHOST TRAIN:

MENDOCINO PURPLE KUSH

PLATINUM CAKE

TROPICANNA COOKIES X SLURRICANE

Last time I grew Platinum Cake it was green buds but still looked awesome, and was/is some fantastic meds:

And, I didn't realize the Tropicanna Cookies x Slurricane was also a purple strain.

I think I might hold off on the Terpinator and give them all the Purpinator to see what happens?

We could have a lot of purple this round, which is kinda funny cuz' normally I look at the purple strains for bag appeal, which isn't important to me since I don't sell commercially. The green strains always seem more potent, though, I'm hoping these will be some exceptions!

Happy Harvests!

K

Amazing roster Mr.Krip It would be great to see how Purpinator does. I think everybody would agree with me

 

[Botanical Bondage]

Might be cool to see a comparison on two similar plants of same strain. Terp vs perp. This needs to happen i think please kind sir.

 

[Mr. Krip]

Drive-by

I hear this is a good product too for color enhancement.

Purple Maxx

We're covered!

If that doesn't work, there's always the "ice trick"

 

[Mr. Krip]

Might be cool to see a comparison on two similar plants of same strain. Terp vs perp. This needs to happen i think please kind sir.

Unfortunately, I can't do it this round, or next round, at least in the main tent, since we're running four different strains both rounds.

Maybe I'll re-run a couple clones of one of the purple strains in the small tent after I harvest the Chem 91's in there now?
Actually, thanks for reminding me cuz' whatever I'm gonna run next round in the small tent should get cloned soon.