2016 All B.I.D. Genetics Grow

DLS is for flower.... you're already flowering?

The Flowering Schedule

Plants that have been grown up using the Gas Lantern Routine are now supercharged with floral hormones, and ready to go into flower with the slightest provocation. The interruption of the dark period has been destroying enough of the naturally building hormones to keep the plant from flowering, and the well-rested plant now has plenty of stored nutrients and energy to finish its life cycle and flower. Triggering the plants is essentially just a matter of removing the interrupting light period, so the plants may now experience the full buildup of hormones that will trigger blooming.

In keeping with providing all the correct organic biological and environmental needs of the plant, the diminishing fall schedule should be employed to take full advantage of the hormonal preparation created by using the Gas Lantern Routine. The diminishing hours of light in nature trigger acceleration in the production of hormones in the plant, making it flower with increasing speed and power.

The Diminishing Lighting Schedule

The diminishing fall schedule begins with an evenly halved light schedule, using 12 hours for the first two weeks to trigger the plant into bloom, and then further reducing the lighting for increasing darkness time by one half hour every week.

The final week of flowering will provide the plants with a mere nine hours of light, with 15 hours of darkness, forcing a resulting final explosive hormonal buildup. This sends the plant into blooming overdrive and produces resin far beyond the normal plant’s limits.
When the Gas Lantern Routine and Diminishing Light Schedule are used together, they create healthier, more naturally robust plants. These important and historical botanical techniques are soon going to become very important techniques in the coming years as medicinal cannabis research continues to advance. When viewed from cost of production, organics, and medicinal needs, the methods currently being promoted can be seen counter to the interests of growing healthy plants. Understanding your plants is the best way to grow the best medicine, and looking for solutions to growing problems by observing nature always provides the right answers.
 
Jandre, NO I am not going to flower yet. :thedoubletake: After I hit the end of week 6 I have been reducing the on time by an hour every couple of days 18/6, 17/7... until I got to 12/12. I see pistils now, but want to see more before I go to GLR schedule. I am still planning on going outside, but later than last year. I was outside three days from now last year. They didn't declare until after they went out. I will have no males inside or outside this year...
After checking last year's journal I am on track if not ahead of schedule. I saw no sign of pre-flower until March 21st last year :cheesygrinsmiley:
 
Busy I see. I seen mention of pollen. It can be some nasty shit. I've had pollen stay viable over a year without freezing it. But it can get stuck anywhere then transfer and hit another room. If I ever go and produce regular pollen again I'm going to be real carefull. I've wasted more than one crop to rouge pollen. Sad thing is it was my own rouge pollen. Nice short fat bushes Keepem Green
 
Jandre, NO I am not going to flower yet. :thedoubletake: After I hit the end of week 6 I have been reducing the on time by an hour every couple of days 18/6, 17/7... until I got to 12/12. I see pistils now, but want to see more before I go to GLR schedule. I am still planning on going outside, but later than last year. I was outside three days from now last year. They didn't declare until after they went out. I will have no males inside or outside this year...
After checking last year's journal I am on track if not ahead of schedule. I saw no sign of pre-flower until March 21st last year :cheesygrinsmiley:

GLR will help express, without throwing your plants into flower, or even semi flower. Go ahead and go to GLR, now, to keep them from switching over prematurely and adding weeks back on because of having to reveg outside.
 
Busy I see. I seen mention of pollen. It can be some nasty shit. I've had pollen stay viable over a year without freezing it. But it can get stuck anywhere then transfer and hit another room. If I ever go and produce regular pollen again I'm going to be real carefull. I've wasted more than one crop to rouge pollen. Sad thing is it was my own rouge pollen. Nice short fat bushes Keepem Green
Wood!! Good to see you here! I hopefully have rid the grow of ALL pollen bearing or soon to be pollen bearing plants. I am still waiting for my others to show me a sign, but yesterday I finally saw this
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GLR will help express, without throwing your plants into flower, or even semi flower. Go ahead and go to GLR, now, to keep them from switching over prematurely and adding weeks back on because of having to reveg outside.
By your command! Takes you back, doesn't it?:rofl: Battlestar Gallactica ring a bell? I had another small, but easily solved problem. Apparently I over-watered one of my plants.
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And finally got this little pest to hold still! Not sure where they are doming from. Some are bright green, some brown, and some like this one. Leaf hoppers?
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I pulled the pan off the bottom, drained the excess water, and put it out on the back "patio" until she dries out a little. Also made aeration holes in soil with long screwdriver. It is warm and breezy outside today so it should perk up. What would I do with myself if I didn't have something to deal with:scratchinghead::confused::phew:
 
It's possible you have root rot which is terminal. If all else fails pull plant out of soil cull bad roots, repot. However, success rate is small. I'm new to this grow so I'm not caught up yet. Other plants look good, not sure what went wrong here. PH looks ok because I'm not seeing wrinkles on leaves, it looks wet but you need a peek at root zone to see for sure. Are there bugs flying around? Fungus Nates will kill roots if unchecked.

I'll read up on journal and see if anything stands out.

Cheers
 
So, she is in soil with air dome? If so it now makes sense, I've heard of those causing root issues sometimes. Air can heat up and cook roots. They can work wonders too, but sometimes not so well. Again, if you can peek at roots somehow it can answer some questions.

Cheers
 
It happened overnight. I think I overwatered. No gnats, had gnats before, I'm pretty vigilant so this kinda stuff really cuts me deep!
I see you are not new to growing, but I had to ask. Sorry.

Cheers
 
So, she is in soil with air dome? If so it now makes sense, I've heard of those causing root issues sometimes. Air can heat up and cook roots. They can work wonders too, but sometimes not so well. Again, if you can peek at roots somehow it can answer some questions.

Cheers

I see you are not new to growing, but I had to ask. Sorry.

Cheers

Hey millertm, THANKS for your input!!!
Not under an airdome, in soil identical to the other plants. If I don't see improvement by tomorrow I will take it out of the pot, check the roots (they were coming out of the holes at the bottom of pot) it could be root bound,but I doubt it and decide whether it is a lost cause or not. Thanks again for your input!!
 
Sorry to barge in but a little birdy asked me to swing by and take a look.

I have a theory but I would like some more background as I am unsure I understand what happened today. It sounds to me like you woke up and saw a mess and took it out side. Not sure what you mean by aerated as that means a lot of things to me depending on how you do it. Did your remove the root ball from the pot? I have also known people to take an air pump and drive a hose into the soil and pump air in there.

I took a step back and went a few pages into the journal to confirm and it looks like leading up to this multiple plants have too much nitrogen. This plant in particular has at this point multiple signs of nitrogen toxicity combined with what is likely over watering and now possibly sun burn.

The thing that gets me is if the leaves were not burnt in the middle that would look just like a serious nitrogen toxicity but happening overnight seems rather harsh. It can happen though since they were very much on the edge just before this happened. Technically they were already well into overdose before last night. It could have been as simple as the combination of over watering looked real bad and I think you said you took it out side which may have caused some sun damage?

In any case when you "over watered" as you claim... did you allow or runoff to leave the area or did it sit the drip pan and reabsorb?

I am betting that the run of is not being drained off and there is possibly some real scary stuff in there now. Depending on the type of soil you run most people should be having a decent amount of run off each time that does not reabsorb. I looked but did not find info on the soil or nutes but I didn't go far back. If you are running a basic soil blend (a handful of of the shelf stuff combined) then you definitely need a good 15% run off each time that does not reabsorb.

I noticed your pots are sitting in the drip pans not on rocks. Try adding rocks like this to allow for the water to actually run off and flush out the excess salts regularly.

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My bet is they are not getting proper drainage and the excess nitrogen is build up and by adding too much water the bottom finally burst and went toxic.

This is all fixable if it is what I think is happening. You probably will loose those fan leaves and need to veg it a while to rebuild new ones but not long if done right. In good conditions that can be recovered in 2 weeks. If you want to bring it back you need to do a proper flush to clean out the built up excess stuff followed by a microbial bath with some enzymes which will recondition that soil. Then you can get it back on the rails.

If you want to do that I can show you.


Best of luck
:peace:
 
Your a good man VI, thank you :Namaste:
 
ugh... what a bummer! If you can't get it corrected, I'd love to see some shots of the root mass. If you have a USB microscope, it would be killer to get some shots that way, too. I suspect some bugs in the soil, and possibly on the underside of the leaves as well. Root rot is a possibility, too. Sunburn, might cause that spotting, but from what I've seen on my own plants that were put out too soon without hardening off, it's more of a wash effect with the discoloration, than spotting. Was your "patio" covered, or open to the full sun?
 
Thanks Villageidiot for coming to look.
You: I am unsure I understand what happened today.
Me: Plants were healthy and fine when I looked in last evening, woke up to droopy wilted, discolored leaves.
You: Not sure what you mean by aerated
Me: I took a long screw-driver and sunk it in making 8 finger sized holes around the outside perimeter to get some air down deeper into the pot.
Tonight I went ahead and trimmed it back to the unaffected plant and if it makes it, I will be happy. Kind of a bummer when the females are just starting to declare. I have had set-backs before and will survive this also. I really appreciate your input!!!
 
ugh... what a bummer! If you can't get it corrected, I'd love to see some shots of the root mass. If you have a USB microscope, it would be killer to get some shots that way, too. I suspect some bugs in the soil, and possibly on the underside of the leaves as well. Root rot is a possibility, too. Sunburn, might cause that spotting, but from what I've seen on my own plants that were put out too soon without hardening off, it's more of a wash effect with the discoloration, than spotting. Was your "patio" covered, or open to the full sun?

Jandre, full sun outside, but spots on leaves were there before I put them out. I think I over-watered and drowned it! I read a while back that it is possible to drown the plant :thedoubletake: I have always done my transplanting in the evening, especially here in the Great Southwest. Thanks for checking in. On a brighter note the P-ROC is showing more pistils. I really hope both of the HYBID plants are female. The one is a monster!
 
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