1st Grow, RainForest 318, 400W HID, Chronic Haze, Yumbolt47, California Dream

Busy, busy. Time to catch up.

Got it all trimmed, minus the popcorn. The SLH dried pretty quickly, so I'm now putting it in jars and taking it out a couple of times a day when it gets rehydrated. The KK is still on the drying rack, and still a bit sticky. I chopped it a day later than the SLH, so I imagine it will dry a day later.

Volume-wise, the SLH fills 4L, and the KK fills about 2.5L. Won't be weighing them until they're good and dry.

I tried a hit of the SLH, not completely dry, and that was a mistake. Tasted OK going in (ice bong), but gagged me on the exhale. Jesus. We'll have to wait a week or two for a report on that.

The water-cure bud turned out great. Took it out after 7 days, and it took less than a day on the drying rack to dry to smokable condition. Very nice taste, very smooth, and it had a little pepper flavor to it, but I think that's from the KK, not the water cure. I put another 2-3 gms of the SLH into a water jar today, and will dry it a week from now and give another report. The potency was nice, but I don't think either plant is going to turn out any thing more than just "good" as far as potency goes. I just stressed them too much.

Some pics (click to see full-size):

Here's the drying rack with all the goods on it. the top 4 filled sections are the SLH, the bottom 3 are the KK:
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Close-up of some of the SLH:
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Another view of the SLH:
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A shot of the water-cured bud before I consumed it:
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hey bro before you dispose of anything check honey bee extractors out I was at a medical marijauna expo on saturday and ran across some of the coolest stuff the honey extractor holds 1 oz of trim put th cap on and run a can of butane through it make your own honey oil if its good quality trim you could probably run a second can of butane through cost is 25-30 bucks but its safe no heating involved when I try it out Ill let you know reps peace

I'm interested in your report on that. Sounds pretty simple.
 
just in case you want to check the honey bee extractor out heres the site www.buzznn.ca- Honey Bee Extractors - The Best Method for Extracting pure Honey/Hash Oil[/url] I dont know how you feel about honey oil man but I think its worth checking out reps peace peace bro
 
just in case you want to check the honey bee extractor out heres the site www.buzznn.ca- Honey Bee Extractors - The Best Method for Extracting pure Honey/Hash Oil[/url] I dont know how you feel about honey oil man but I think its worth checking out reps peace peace bro

I've never had any honey oil that I remember. It would have to have been in the 70s, and I can't access a lot of those data....

I went to that website and checked out their video. I'll wait and see how yours turns out before I think about ordering one. :goodluck:
 
Nice pics bro. I got the same rack, do you got a fan trained on them? Looks like a weight bench right near that rack :D

I did have a fan on them at first, but that really dried them out too fast, so I just have 2 fans oscillating in the room but not directly on the drying rack.

Good eye. I've got it hanging from a ProSpot 100 which I haven't used in a year...
 
well bro if you,ve never tried honey oil its killer like extremely potent hash the only way to smoke it is using activated charcoal once you try it you cant find a better way to use trim and popcorn type bud other than cookies or brownies just looking for the best ways to utilize any byeproduct trim and small bud reps peace
 
man those buds look sweet. How are you my friend?
here is my currant grow - hope you enjoy:YouTube - the church, white rhino and arjan's haze

all the best, mate
and happy growing

Damn, SBH, you've gone from a hobbyist setup to a pro commercial-looking rig. Very nice room and setup.

I know little about soil growing, but I like what I see there. I'm going to be putting up a custom room like yours, and I was considering the foil-on-styrofoam panels, which look like the ones you're using. Was going to just put up the wood frame and either use the panels alone or put them onto thin plywood walls.

The plants are all more than healthy. The Arjan's Haze looks kind of like what my Kandy Kush looked like, which turned out to be a virtual bonsai. Or maybe it's just a lot younger than the others. Mine still produced a nice yield, and the bud was heavier than my others. The White Rhino is looking really sativa and The Church is looking really indica. Great buds on both already. After I use up the semi-expensive seeds on hand, I'm going for some White Rhino. Yours just looks too tasty to pass up.

As for lighting, I think I'm going with 2x600 on my next grow. I'd love to have your 2200 watts, but I'd never be able to handle the heat where I live. What's the flashing light, btw? Is that a filming artifact?

And yours is the first soil grow I've seen with airstones. Never heard of such, so what's the deal with that?
 
hello, my friend,
I am a hydro grower, but I hand water. The medium I use is called fytocell. it is a good medium but it does have some problems fro me. Here is a run down on it:



"Is Fytocell for Hydroponics?
Fytocell has been developed to be used as 100% hydroponic growing media on its own, but can be mixed with perlite, rockwool, coir and even clay balls.

What systems can I use Fytocell in?
Fytocell will work well in a dripper or hand watered run to waste system.

Will Fytocell work in a recirculating system?
Absolutely. Either in a dripper, or flood & drain recirculating system.

Do I need to prepare Fytocell for planting?
Ideally yes. It does not matter whether you are running to waste or recirculating, it is best to run just water through the system for 24 hours. At the end of this period dump this water and start with a 1/4 or 1/2 strength nutrient solution.

Should I saturate Fytocell before starting?
If you are not going to flush the system as above, you will need to saturate the Fytocell with water in the bag for 24 hours. This also stops Fytocell being too fluffy.

Do I need to pH adjust Fytocell?
No. Fytocell comes already pH adjusted between, 5.5 – 7.0

Does Fytocell have any nutritional value?
No

When using a recirculating system, do I need to do anything different?
Fytocell has a combination of particle sizes. It is best to place a pot sock or a stocking in your pot to stop these fines. In addition, it is better if you can place a filter over your pump intake. With recirculating for 24 hours you will greatly reduce the amount of fines.

How do I plant the advanced plant into a pot of Fytocell?
Most advanced plants are grown in rockwool cubes / blocks or FytoClone. With rockwool it is very important that you place the cube/block on top of the Fytocell or only slightly into it, ie 5 mm.

Why sit the advanced plant rockwool block on top?
If the top of the rockwool block is planted flush with the top of the Fytocell, it can not self regulate its water / air content. As Fytocell holds up to 60% water and after that releases excess water, it gives this excess to the rockwool. The root environment of the young plant becomes too wet with very little air. Creating an anaerobic situation and the young plant will die quickly.

What irrigation regime do I use in the first 0-14 days after planting the advanced plant?
Much depends on your environment, but because Fytocell holds a large amount of water you are better to water slightly less for this period. If the Fytocell starts to dry out you can slowly increase the amount of water either by volume per cycle or the number cycles.

What irrigation regime should I use in a dripper system after 14 days?
Fytocell is very flexible because it holds a lot of water and air, but still flushes and drains well.
Anyone switching from rockwool should not have to change a thing. The old adage little and often works well.
Switching from coir. After the initial 14 day period and as the roots get down into the Fytocell, Fytocell is far more tolerant to greater amounts of water than coir.
Switching from clay balls and perlite is a bit more dramatic. They both hold less water and so they are watered more often.

In summary Fytocell can be watered a range of ways from once every 1-2 days to a number of small waterings throughout the day. Fytocell does not require a large volume of water 3 - 4 or more times a day, all things being equal regarding, environment, pot and plant size.

What irrigation regime should I use in a flood & drain system after 14 days?
Fytocell is a denser product than either clay balls or rockwool. This means Fytocell relies on capillary action to move the water upwards. You may have to initially flood the tray for longer and to a higher level. However you will probably only have to do this once per day. Always pull back on the watering initially. You can always increase it if necessary.

How can I expect plants to grow and look in Fytocell?
The initial 0-14 days the plant may look like it is sitting still. In this time the plant is furiously putting roots down into the Fytocell. You then see the plant explode in growth.


Fytocell Qualities

Physical

The air / water ratio in Fytocell is unique with approximately 37- 40% being air and 57- 60% water. The remaining 3% is dry / solid matter and unpenetrable. This means there is almost no barrier to root growth in a physical sense.

Temperature Heat/Cool

Many substrates / medias hold either an excessive amount of air or water, but not reasonable quantities of both. As Fytocell holds this 57% water it acts as a great insulator under warm conditions, slower to heat up during the day and once warm offering some heat in the evening. Air is very quick to either heat up or cool down.
This is also why when using Fytocell and FytoClone under cool conditions that you must provide some kind of artificial heat. Due to the fact that moisture content is good at approx 60%, if the air temperature is very cold the water will become cool over time and therefore is also slower to warm up.

Moisture

The ability of Fytocell to hold water is very good. Due to this fact Fytocell can be watered slightly differently than many media. This can be done in either small irrigations, at a regular interval, or a larger irrigation perhaps as little as once per day or even 2-3 days.

Plant Available Water

Fytocell while containing good ratios of air and water has no problem in giving what water it does have, to the roots’ as they require it. For example a 10L or 2.3 gal pot saturated, holds approximately 5L or 1.2gal of water. In experiments, plants have been able to stay green and grow in these pots even to the point where there is not even a drop of water left in the Fytocell. There is of course some stress, but there is no other media that does this.
The plant available water abilities of Fytocell are amazing.

Capillary Action

Fytocell has excellent capillary action. It takes up water both vertically and horizontally. A pot with holes in the bottom, filled with Fytocell, will draw water upwards approximately 15cm or 6 inches. This water will move at an even level up through the pot. It will not saturate to a percentage higher than approximately 60% by volume when drawing water from below.

Drainage

Fytocell drains by gravity. As long as the water/nutrient solution has some where to drain to, it will never hold more that approximately 60% moisture by volume.
If Fytocell is watered too much, and too often, you may not allow enough time for Fytocell to gravity drain.

Cation Exchange

Fytocell has a low cation exchange ability, which means it flushes salt build up easily.

Fytocell Flakes

Part of the success of Fytocell is it’s large air component. Therefore when placing the saturated Flakes in the pot do not compress these down. This does mean over time there may be some natural slumpage, but this will have no effect on the established plant. If you want to you can top up the pot.

Fytocell Slabs

These are not as robust as some other media types, however this has absolutely no bearing on Fytocells’ great performance. If the slabs break, just manually push them back together. Due to the way Fytocell holds air/water and it’s great capillary action
These cracks/breaks do NOT cause a problem."


it holds heaps of air and stays moist, but for me this is a problem, as I supplement my basic chemical nutrient with organics - seaweed, fish emulsion and other additives that are organic;

I have had a problem with fungus guants because of this so I had to cover the top of the medium with a deep layer of expanded clay.

also a green algae develops on the top of the medium, which not only attracts them but also looks ugly.

I use big pots 52 liters( around 13 gallons) and, using this medium they are hard to flush, as it takes around 30 liters (around 8 gallons) before any water comes out the drain holes of the pot.

They are bloody heavy too, as I have to carry them into my laundry to flush them(they is a tiled floor in there with a drain).
the other side of this is that I only have to water them around every week or so, sometimes more, sometimes less.

Have you thought of using a light mover, they allow you to cover a greater area with less lights?

Or have you thought of using the cool tubes?

I run my lights of a night when it is cooler.

my exhaust fan, which is a very powerful one(a Cann fan) is wrapped in about 4 heavy woolen blankets, and it reduces the noise it makes down to about 20% of what it would otherwise, and with a speed controller, it can hardly be heard; in fact sometimes I have to check to see if it is on.

I have neighbors that live very close.

The flashing is from my coil ballast; I have managed to purchase 2 digital ballasts, but the other lights(one 400watt, and one 600 watt) are the old magnetic ballasts.

a good digital ballast sends a pulse of energy through the discharge tube anywhere from 20,000 to 28,000 times per second.

a magnetic ballast sends a pulse through the tube at 60 times per second;
we see this light as being continuous, and it is only through a digital camera that our eyes see the flickering;

this is why digital ballasts can give 30%% more light.

with heat, in summer, running them of a night will not be enough to keep the heat down, even though my room is large(I only use a small section of it for my grow space, about 30% of the total volume of the room, so that the heat has a greater volume in which to dissipate.

In the middle of summer, I will either have to connect the cool tubes to an exhaust fan, or run an air conditioner, or perhaps both(just to take the load of the a/c, and save money on power.)


with the haze 1, I veged her for 9 weeks; she is now over 13 weeks old, but I trained her by bending the branches, after nipping her once, to grow outwards rather than up;
it is hard to tell with the video, but she is over 5 feet in circumference, and around 2 feet high.

all the best, my friend,
and happy growing
 
That Fytocell sounds interesting and versatile. I'm not taking on any new experiments right now, though, and that looks like it would take some learning and trial and error before it works right.

My grow tent is in an un-air-conditioned room now, so I don't have any cool air to dissipate the heat into... I'm going to get a chiller and an Ice Box (water-cooled fan which attaches to the reflector outlet, 6" or 8") which should pretty well refrigerate the whole tent without much effort. If and when I build a bigger one, I'll probably put in another light and another Ice Box to keep things cool. It got up to 107 degrees plus last month here, and it'll stay hot through October. Then it starts getting hot again in April, so there's only one cool growing window for folks with cooling problems, between about December and March. Once I get the cooling part solved, I should be good to go year-round.

Hope your Haze finishes sooner than my Super Lemon Haze did. I let it flower for 14 weeks and it still didn't have over 50% amber trichs. More than likely the long flowering was also partially a result of the heat stress, though.
 
hi my friend,

the water cooling use the ice box is the way to go. Great American know how.
I was interested myself, but I live too far away, and none of the chillers I can get here are up to the job. I am interested in their water cooled co2 generator and the controller.

i will read some smoke reports and get back to you on that, once I know the sort of thing that is required.

all the best, my friend
 
hi my friend,

the water cooling use the ice box is the way to go. Great American know how.
I was interested myself, but I live too far away, and none of the chillers I can get here are up to the job. I am interested in their water cooled co2 generator and the controller.

i will read some smoke reports and get back to you on that, once I know the sort of thing that is required.

all the best, my friend

Good deal, SBH. I completely missed this post; sorry for the delayed response.
 
no worries, my friend;
I will be taking an interest in your water cooled set up, when you have it; i was blown away by them guys and their approach to solving heat problems.
Some of the enclosed reflectors you can get over there are great too; the cool tubes are excellent, but it is hard to get a good spread with them, and keep the light close to the plants; This is really an unfair criticism as they are designed to be kept close to the canopy. The cool tubes are really the only enclosed reflectors me can buy here, unless we wish to take the risk on cheap Chinese rubbish imported and sold through an Australian web site.
all the best,
and happy growing
 
OK, been smoking since last July and not growing anything. Life has been good...

Now I'm about to start up again (late, considering that I'm going to run out of smoke before the next harvest). Going to be in the same tent, but I've added a bigger reflector and am going from 400W to 600W. I think 600 is about all that 5'x5' tent can handle.

I have a chiller (might be too small) and an IceBox now, and got a decent fan to cool the reflector, so maybe the heat problems from the last grow won't recur.

Still need to put up a room divider (actually a wall) in the room the tent's in so my portable A/C can cool the area around the tent semi-well and keep the chiller cool. That's tomorrow's project. Today I'm cleaning stuff and constructing an exhaust shroud for the chiller to get the hot air outside and not into the room.

Will update if I ever actually get some seeds down...:cool:
 
OK, been smoking since last July and not growing anything. Life has been good...

Now I'm about to start up again (late, considering that I'm going to run out of smoke before the next harvest). Going to be in the same tent, but I've added a bigger reflector and am going from 400W to 600W. I think 600 is about all that 5'x5' tent can handle.

I have a chiller (might be too small) and an IceBox now, and got a decent fan to cool the reflector, so maybe the heat problems from the last grow won't recur.

Still need to put up a room divider (actually a wall) in the room the tent's in so my portable A/C can cool the area around the tent semi-well and keep the chiller cool. That's tomorrow's project. Today I'm cleaning stuff and constructing an exhaust shroud for the chiller to get the hot air outside and not into the room.

Will update if I ever actually get some seeds down...:cool:


Boli, what up man, glad to hear life is good....figure out your strains yet?
 
Boli, what up man, glad to hear life is good....figure out your strains yet?

Nice to hear from you again, Vaporeyes. I was going with a couple of the seeds I have on hand since they're getting on in years, but I'm ordering some Lowryders just in case I change my mind and want to go fast and short. I've got one fem seed each of Yumboldt 47, G13 Skunk #1, LA Woman, and Chronic Haze, plus 10 or so California Dreams.

I'm only going with 2 plants this time and I'm going to train them somehow, probably just with a net or some fencing at about 24". Still using the RainForest, still in the same tent, just better cooling, a larger reflector, and more light.

What's your growing situation now?
 
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