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That’s awesome Kis! I should be ordering the materials for @JustMeds cob-a-tron real soon. Then it’s just the vacuum sealer.
1st Grow: Blue Dream
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Haha. There actually is!
I’d never ignore any of you guys though!
Kismet
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Yah me neither. Haven't met anyone here that i don't like 
There can be a couple of factors in this. The first is the grow medium. You are a soil grower and I grow in coco. Plants just grow faster and larger in hydro. To match that you probably need to let them veg longer. By vegging longer you allow the roots to fill the entire pot really well. I've found that plants stretch better when their roots are more established. I don't know if you use a root enhancer but if you don't, you should look into that. Secondly, I am not sure what light you use and how much above the plants you kept them but I have stunted stretch by having the light too close. It wasn't close enough to burn them but it was closer than normal and all 4 stayed shorter.
Lastly, I know you quadlined your plants pretty low to the soil. Maybe let them grow longer and be patient with the training. Try training a little less horizontal and maybe give them just a little angle. I also try to only do major things to them when they are aggressively growing because I know they are super healthy that way.
I'm going to take a stab and say maybe it has to do with the light. How high did you keep it and what kind of light do you have again?
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I followed your suggestions and let them grow to 24” away. The light is a blurple with 240 10 watt diodes pulling 450 watts at the wall. I’m satisfied with how they are, I was just expecting more height through stretch. Do they continue to grow vertical from this point? Like do the buds grow taller from here or do they form from all the bud growth that is currently on the existing branches? They really have a lot of growth probably halfway down the length of the branches.
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I also did some training right before flipping and was wondering if I had skipped that step if they would have gone more vertical. If I had skipped it though the main 4 branches would have been significantly taller than the side branches.
The FF nutes you use @Mr. Magoo, are they organic? Do you plan on flushing at the end? I haven't used any nutes at all and have no idea what to expect. I was reading @SweetSue 's journal and she mentioned a product where was just starting to try called MegaCrop. All organic and I have a sample coming to me. I was just curious on what your thought process was going to be near the end of flower.
Just a little bit but not a ton. Most of it is just getting fatter and not so much taller. You could try having the lights up a bit higher next time and just see what happens. You can always drop it back to 24" if you aren't happy with it.
You made the right call for sure.
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There are some that are organic and some that aren’t. The schedule says you can use them up till harvest but I like the idea of maybe finishing them with water for a week or 2. That’s what I plan to do. When I think they are about 2 weeks away I’ll use a foxfarm product called sledgehammer and then just water from there. I’ll probably drop my RH down in that time frame too. I’ve read on here recently about altering the light cycle at the end to something like 11/14 to bring out Sativa attributes in the final product. May look more into that and see if anyone thinks it would be appropriate for my girls.
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@InTheShed posted this link in another thread. Haven’t even read it yet but it’s probably a good one if he was recommending it! Here
OK good stuff. I'll let you know how that MegaCrop works out during flower. It's intended to be used from veg to harvest, but my first round will be late veg and flower. Have a good night Magoo.
Interesting, after reading the first section of his openeing lines, this Mega Crop organic stuff addresses a lot of that, including amino acids, sulphurs etc. You should do a Goggles search on Mega Crop just for some info for yourself. Great thread. I got it subbed and will give it a good read. 
The basic idea of the link that Magoo posted is that the flowers don't uptake any nutrients from the soil, so all flushing does is starve the plant at at time when you are asking it to work the hardest. Nutrients are taken up and used by the rest of the plant to produce sugars that build the buds you want. No sensible reason to flush that I'm aware of...it all seems to be anecdotal. A good dry and a good cure is what stands between harsh and smooth tasty buds, not flushing.
My 2¢!
My 2¢!
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I’ve read through that thread now. Very informative. Funny because I was just telling MrSauga that I had planned on flushing for a while before harvest and that thread where you posted that was the very next page I viewed. Lol. I’ve changed my mind. Wasn’t really sold on the flush but was leaning that way until reading that.
Ya my plan was to skip the flush, since I have no reason to. Based on what I have read about this Mega Crop stuff it provides all those nutrients you mentioned right up until harvest. I don't quite understand a lot of it but it sells the product based on the info you provided almost to a tee.
Interesting.... I’ve been wondering about the necessity of the flush for quite some time. ShiggityFlip recommended minimal additions to keep from starving the plant at the end.
I’ll have to peruse this link Shed provided.
I’m open to change.
I’ll have to peruse this link Shed provided.
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Good to see you in my neck of the woods Sue! Hope you are having a wonderful day!Interesting.... I’ve been wondering about the necessity of the flush for quite some time. ShiggityFlip recommended minimal additions to keep from starving the plant at the end.
I’ll have to peruse this link Shed provided.
Derbybud
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I'm with Shed on this. The last week I wean the plants off most of the nitrogen but that's it. When is time I chop. No flushing.
I gave up the idea of flushing when I read that link last year and later found out that Penny and Derby don't believe in it either. Sealed it for me!Interesting.... I’ve been wondering about the necessity of the flush for quite some time. ShiggityFlip recommended minimal additions to keep from starving the plant at the end.
I’ll have to peruse this link Shed provided.
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I’ve been reading in a couple threads lately the differences in wet trimming and dry trimming. I wonder if this is part of the same conversation. Are the buds still pulling elements from the leaves for a bit if you dry trim. I don’t know. It’s all new to me. Lol. I just want the best taste and potency I can get with my setup. Lol. That’s all I want!
