180W Super Lemon Haze Grow - Lots of Pics!

[NuhNugz]

IF the above is even close to be true, Then I can`t see LEDs even coming close to the Hids???

I`m not shooting down Leds, or Hids just so much Confusing data out here.

LED's are not intended to replace HID in instances you mention. LED shines where one does not have the ability or the space to exhaust all the HEAT a comparable HID produces.

You can throw one of these in a tiny closet just big enough for the light with minimal exhaust (for the plant to breathe) without all the extra fans and duct work.

 

[IrishBoy]

You can throw one of these in a tiny closet just big enough for the light with minimal exhaust (for the plant to breathe) without all the extra fans and duct work.

i agree! i know people that cant grow because they live in a apartment and cant run vent hose for hps. but they throw a led panel in the closet and they can now grow some meds. different setups for different lighting. large scale growers are better off going with HID

 

[TorturedSoul]

LED's are not intended to replace HID in instances you mention. LED shines where one does not have the ability or the space to exhaust all the HEAT a comparable HID produces.

i agree!

So you two are stating that LEDs are not advantageous in situations where heat is not a problem? IOW, that they're not more efficient, don't have any kind of penetration edge, a spectrum more suitable for flowering cannabis, or what-not?

 

[IrishBoy]

So you two are stating that LEDs are not advantageous in situations where heat is not a problem? IOW, that they're not more efficient, don't have any kind of penetration edge, a spectrum more suitable for flowering cannabis, or what-not?

NO i never said anything like that! where did you get thats what i was saying?
all i am saying is leds can help some grow meds when they couldnt before. i am not trying to get into led vs HID, i stay out of those subjects, nothing good comes from that.

You can throw one of these in a tiny closet just big enough for the light with minimal exhaust (for the plant to breathe) without all the extra fans and duct work.

QUOTE=irishboy;1068490]i know people that cant grow because they live in a apartment and cant run vent hose for hps. but they throw a led panel in the closet and they can now grow some meds. different setups for different lighting. large scale growers are better off going with HID[/QUOTE]

i was just agreeing to his commet an nothing els, dont get it confused with anything els. you quote me and twist it up like i was agreeing with something els. as u can see in my last post i was just talking about a friend that can now grow because of his setup and leds made it possible.

 

[usul]

I understand what you're saying Irish - I'd love to install a 400W HPS in my tiny closet tent and I know I'd need a vented hood to make it work. There's no way I'd have the room to do that.

That said, I'll go out on a limb and venture a guess that a properly configured 300W LED array may indeed do better than the 350W HPS/T5 I'm runnning now. Time will tell

 

[go green]

I can't believe I have not seen this thread yet. Mike you rock man. We will be talking business soon. Again.

Looking good from earlier on, I hope to see some new posts and pics!

Chat with you soon.

-D
-GO Green-

 

[TorturedSoul]

NO i never said anything like that! where did you get thats what i was saying?

I thought you had quoted the first part of his post (and stated "I agree!") instead of the second part. I guess I was mistaken. Apologies.

I was wondering WtF, lol.

 

[IrishBoy]

I thought you had quoted the first part of his post (and stated "I agree!") instead of the second part. I guess I was mistaken. Apologies.

I was wondering WtF, lol.

lol. no just agreeing with the fact some are able to grow because of leds because their setup wont allow them to run hps. i love hps, and you will never hear me say leds are better then HPS unless i see it with my own eyes. i keep it as real as i can, and i know what hps can do and i dont underestimate it, i respect it. thats why i own a 1000w hps. but in the summer time i cant grow with my hps because of the 100F+ heat from summer with no lights running. but last year leds made this possible for me because of the less radiant heat it didnt seem to bother my plants in the high temps IMO. so i also respect leds. just like i really really respect the sun.lol. but i have to say after this last led grow of mine i have a whole new respect for leds. i still am having a hard time raping my mind around the fact leds grow these buds. i lost all hope for leds from my past grows, then as my last led grow was being done and i was about to give up, i get some good plants like mine right now. i cant wait to see my dry weight as see whats what. either way i have to say mikes lights still produced some nice fat buds.

 

[vipers]

Mike, on your first post you said..."Light height during last 2.5 weeks 24 inches". I have never heard of lowering light intensity at the end of the plants life. I, like most everyone else are astounded at the results you and Irish are getting with these LED's. I own another company's light, a Jumbo 180watt that is dimmable in that the user can turn off quadrants of the light so you can have the option of using 100%,75%,50% down to 25% of the lights total output. I have been running my light right on through at full on 100% with the idea that more is better( I am an American!,LOL). But your post made me think, should I be decreasing my light's output near the lifecycles end? You see I don't have much height to work with and can't raise the light to get the same results. Fact is, I really want to try out your lights cause they seem to be winning the LED race. I just came from your website and didn't see it stated if your lights were dimmable. If not, would there be a possibility that in the future you might offer a model with dimmability for those heigth challenged like me or come to think of it a "sport" model without the protective glass. I would want the glass personally but I would bet there would be others out there that would like that option too. Just my 2 cents. I think you got it going on in the LED world and wish you all the luck with your company. I have been a believer in LED for some time now. Glad to see it come of age. Thanks for listening man. .V.

 

[IrishBoy]

i dont think cutting the light intense the last few weeks of flowering in gonna help? that might of be a typo or something? i am curios to here about this also?
but i wanted to let you know Mike figured out that the glass blocks allot of light, me and him both broke out our glasses with a spark plug, and the different was real noticeable, more brite crisp clean light with more foot print and penetration.
he know offers the option to get ur glass removed and he still honors his 5 year warranty. the others company's soon will jock his n*ts and soon do this to watch. but just to let u know their already have that option. i will never grow with leds any other way

 

[GrowLEDHydro]

Mike, on your first post you said..."Light height during last 2.5 weeks 24 inches". I have never heard of lowering light intensity at the end of the plants life. I, like most everyone else are astounded at the results you and Irish are getting with these LED's. I own another company's light, a Jumbo 180watt that is dimmable in that the user can turn off quadrants of the light so you can have the option of using 100%,75%,50% down to 25% of the lights total output. I have been running my light right on through at full on 100% with the idea that more is better( I am an American!,LOL). But your post made me think, should I be decreasing my light's output near the lifecycles end? You see I don't have much height to work with and can't raise the light to get the same results. Fact is, I really want to try out your lights cause they seem to be winning the LED race. I just came from your website and didn't see it stated if your lights were dimmable. If not, would there be a possibility that in the future you might offer a model with dimmability for those heigth challenged like me or come to think of it a "sport" model without the protective glass. I would want the glass personally but I would bet there would be others out there that would like that option too. Just my 2 cents. I think you got it going on in the LED world and wish you all the luck with your company. I have been a believer in LED for some time now. Glad to see it come of age. Thanks for listening man. .V.

Ahh man.. I see what your talking about, at first I was like wtf?

When I stated 'the last 2.5 weeks 24 inches' I ment the last 2.5 weeks of veg not flower.

As you can see a couple lines down I stated flowering would be between 8 to 14 inches from the top. Right now im at a even 10 inches off the top, at this point I couldnt raise the light any higher even if I wanted to because im maxed out in my tent, but 10 inches looks to be doing very well.

Regarding being able to dim my led's well, I had the option of providing this as a option for my led panels, but back when I first started testing led's I did a grow with a all blue panel with 5 wavelengths and then switched to a all red panel with 5 wavelengths and saw that the results were not that great.

In all honesty I believe that a full spectrum is best and needed throughout the entire grow for max results. Thats just what my eyes have seen while messing around with different configurations to dial my panel in.

Another thing I mentioned to irish is that my led panels do not have to be as close to the tops of plants as people think and I asked him to keep the panel just a little higher than felt was needed and I think that worked for him.

In regards to the glass well im working on getting them ordered without the glass but for now it will be a option for my customers to take the glass out if they feel like they want to.

Thanks for stopping by, its nice to see you here.

 

[IrishBoy]

Mike i think by dim able he means the by dimming the lights intenseness for people with hight restriction's. kinda like his 180w ufo were you can cut the lights by 75%50%25%. viper i think either way you will be ok! i think the dimmable is a waist of money and time, because you still need those colors to mix/blend. i fell by dimming the lights ur just going to cut the intensity down and get fluffy bud IMO.

having the light high seems to do just fine but with only this light with the 3w leds, other lights ive used not so well. my 600w light was 24-26" high i believe in veg? and worked great for me, kinda blew me away. and around 18" or so the latter weeks of flowering to keep the plants under the canopy, seem to work good for me. no i would adjust my light different on my next grow to my little secret.

 

[GrowLEDHydro]

Mike i think by dim able he means the by dimming the lights intenseness for people with hight restriction's. kinda like his 180w ufo were you can cut the lights by 75%50%25%. viper i think either way you will be ok! i think the dimmable is a waist of money and time, because you still need those colors to mix/blend. i fell by dimming the lights ur just going to cut the intensity down and get fluffy bud IMO.

having the light high seems to do just fine but with only this light with the 3w leds, other lights ive used not so well. my 600w light was 24-26" high i believe in veg? and worked great for me, kinda blew me away. and around 18" or so the latter weeks of flowering to keep the plants under the canopy, seem to work good for me. no i would adjust my light different on my next grow to my little secret.

oh I gotcha.. so in that case, let me say this, after a dialed in light spectrum intensity is the next most important thing so I would not recommend dimming the light at all. This is one of the reasons why 1w led's cant pull the numbers.

in regards to my panel height I just want to make it clear it can be a little higher than your usual 1w panels.

Thanks for clearing that up irish!..

 

[IrishBoy]

oh I gotcha.. so in that case, let me say this, after a dialed in light spectrum intensity is the next most important thing so I would not recommend dimming the light at all. This is one of the reasons why 1w led's cant pull the numbers.

in regards to my panel height I just want to make it clear it can be a little higher than your usual 1w panels.

Thanks for clearing that up irish!..

i agree 100%. we just need to find that sweet spot with ur lights and then things will get very interesting. i believe every light has its own sweet spot, let me add to that every strain has its sweet spot. When you hit it then its game on. i call it hitting the "G" spot! (the good spot of course)
trust me when you hit the "G" spot they will let you know.

 

[GrowLEDHydro]

week 8 flower... did some trimming as you can tell...

 

[IrishBoy]

ya thats what i am talking about! very nice mike! now dont make my plants look to bad!
that girl is so frosty i cant believe it!

 

[GrowLEDHydro]

ya thats what i am talking about! very nice mike! now dont make my plants look to bad!
that girl is so frosty i cant believe it!

hahaha yeah right man I WIISSHH the SLH produced buds like your plants!!!

 

[IrishBoy]

hahaha yeah right man I WIISSHH the SLH produced buds like your plants!!!

size dosent matter always. the quality is off the hook. i think you have a very good chance to win nug of the month. that plant looks very good for a 180w light panel. by the way Dr. peper is better then Coca Cola

i agree 100%. we just need to find that sweet spot with ur lights and then things will get very interesting. i believe every light has its own sweet spot, let me add to that every strain has its sweet spot. When you hit it then its game on. i call it hitting the "G" spot! (the good spot of course)
trust me when you hit the "G" spot they will let you know.

looks to me you know how to hit that "G" spot i was talking about. i heard not too others no how to when it comes to working their equipment.

 

[dogsnova]

Nice F'n girl you got there bro..

 

[Setting Sun]

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good job bro