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usul said:
The plants are looking great! Your work with the LST has set things up for many, many bud sites. Makes me wonder if I could do without a ScrOG and just LST the heck out of the plants. Might try that on my next grow...

Gotta agree that pruning - especially removing all those big leaves that get in the way - is a good thing. I'm about half way through flowering and at this point have removed virtually all fan leaves from the main stem and all but the top two nodes worth of leaves on the branches. Nugs are fattening up nicely ;)
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They both work great, i just love how simple LST is, especially the way i do it. just bend them over one time and let them grow. you can control the amount of tops by when you bend her over. the more side branches the more tops. i like to do it at 5-6 tops. i always try to shoot for an OZ per top.

thats interesting about removing all the leaves. even mikes plant seem to do good with the leaves removed. so strains will take it some wont. persinaly i always try to tuck my leaves before removing them, put if i can i will snip it off to allow light to hit in their.

OBXGardener said:
Those plants are looking VERY healthy Irish! I'm a big fan of the pure perlite in hempy buckets - I think all the air perlite holds will help keep root rot at bay as well, and it really doesn't seem to need anything coco or vermiculite to wick the nutes effectively. Pure Perlite doesn't react with the nutes or affect the PH like coco or peat either...

GH Maxi dry nutes are impressive... sometimes spending more is just a waste of dough! It's so easy to fall in the "I must give my plants THE BEST" trap... sometimes simple is better huh?
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Ya the perlite is a good one, but i just hate how bad and dust that stuff is. its very bad for you and a pain to handle. but it works great and is PH neutral, easy to flush if things do go wrong. Next grow i am thinking of doing some with hydroton and maybe a little coco just at the tops for the roots can get more moister. I think hydorton will make a great medium for Hempy. and its easy to clean and reuse, i will also add air stand to the bottom on my buckets.

yup always stick to the K.I.S.S. (keep it simple stupid) and that goes for the dry nutes also. i can wait to see what it does in bloom? i will be very happy if it all goes well.

Munki said:
Yep. I'm glad even my errors have shown use as a cautionary tale! I'm not sure if one should always aggressively trim or never trim as this decision may be somewhat strain dependent. I say this as there have been excellent growers with great results that have done each; trim or tuck.
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thats very true, as usual everything thing come down to the strain. i remember say on my last grow how i wish i would have trimmed my HS girls. i think not trimming on that grow lowered my yield. allot of buds were not getting light because the foliage was so dense.
sonzor said:
Wow, Irish those plants are looking amazing, lots and lots of growth. Very nice job...
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go green said:
Hey Irish. Keep up the great work. This thread is very informative and alive!

Happy growing...

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gzusZombie said:
McLovin the LST, that shit seems to work out great. I'm trying to talk a friend into doing it but he thinks he's too old school for it. Whatever!
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to each is their own. LST is pretty old school, nothing new. personally its my favorite way of growing. its allot of fun to watch them grow up like that.
 
I might have a cool little treat for us at the end of this grow! Over time i have collected some bloom boosters that i bought or some were free samples. so i was thinking at the end i will mix different jugs of water and do a little side by side and see what works best? i just e-mail fox farm seeing if the wanted to donate their chia ching or whatever they wanted. But as of now i will use the Bud Blaster, Kool Bloom Dry, and M.O.A.B.

Ive always wanted to see what really works the best so why not see 1st hand so i know where to spend my money at.
 
Heya Irish....how is that swamp cooler working out for you? I just started up my grow with 2 of Mike's 300W and I am running at some pretty high temps (95F - 98F). The babies seem to be ok and not stressed from the heat, but it has been unseasonably cool right now. I really afraid that as it warms up the temps may creep into the 100's.

Although, I think I am more concerned about my DWC reservoir temps. They are creeping into the low 80's. I may try an H202 maintenance to see if I can keep the baddies at bay.
 
TorturedSoul said:
H2O2 should be the very last thing you add before checking the pH (and adjusting if necessary).

Think of it as being slightly unstable - because in use, it is. If you could test for the concentration of H2O2 in your reservoir I guarantee that you'd see a noticable difference just a couple hours after your initial mix - and that it would be gone within 24 hours (in the concentrations that we'd be dealing with).

You can therefore add small amounts every day. Just don't drop the bottle in, lol.
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Do you think there is a risk with adding H2O2 into a DWC system with newly planted clones?

Irish, how long after you planted your clones did you start using H2O2?
 
trichtone said:
Heya Irish....how is that swamp cooler working out for you? I just started up my grow with 2 of Mike's 300W and I am running at some pretty high temps (95F - 98F). The babies seem to be ok and not stressed from the heat, but it has been unseasonably cool right now. I really afraid that as it warms up the temps may creep into the 100's.

Although, I think I am more concerned about my DWC reservoir temps. They are creeping into the low 80's. I may try an H202 maintenance to see if I can keep the baddies at bay.
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To be honest, i might take back that swamp cooler. it was working great the 1st few night but now it seems to have lost its will. the RH% isnt to high 20%. these things arnt cheap. i will wait until its in the 95's and give it 1 more go. its only been lowering the room 2-3F* lately, and 2-3F isnt worth the $150 i paid for it. tomorrow it should be pretty hot, so i will see.

by the way ive already hit the 100's and all it well with my girls, you running indica or sativa?

bro i would run some silica if i were you, its a really great product, the only down side is it raises ur PH pretty good.
trichtone said:
Do you think there is a risk with adding H2O2 into a DWC system with newly planted clones?

Irish, how long after you planted your clones did you start using H2O2?
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i didn't add mine until 2 weeks or so. but i could swear Vipers was saying on here he added some to his baby clone because his roots were slimy, and it helped them out. ive also read others saying it help their clones root better, i am sure you just have to use low doses since their young. but i am not 100% sure? its my 1st time using it.
 
Irishboy said:
i am sure you just have to use low doses since their young. but i am not 100% sure? its my 1st time using it.
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Like all things that are being "fed" to small plants with small root-systems. Makes sense.

Irishboy said:
Oh ya i e-mailed that H2O2 company and asked them how to add their H2O2 to my nutes and this is what they said

Hi,
It does not matter the order that it goes in , however it is an oxidizer so I would probably put it in first mix well then add the rest of your program.
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Odd - that's why I always added it last (before adjusting pH, if needed). I wanted it to do it's breaking down while the plants were in the reservoir - or being fed from it - instead of having the process start while I was still mixing nutrients.

But then I was always crazy about getting DO into the reservoir anyway. "If it aint supersaturated, it aint enough."
 
Irishboy said:
Oh ya i e-mailed that H2O2 company and asked them how to add their H2O2 to my nutes and this is what they said

Hi,
It does not matter the order that it goes in , however it is an oxidizer so I would probably put it in first mix well then add the rest of your program.
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thats good info, all the debate and it can be added anytime lol

i was trying to find out if h202 was an acid or not, here is what i found...

"Now to your question. H2O2 is a very weak acid in water, much weaker than vinegar, but still 103 - 104 times stronger than water itself. For all practical purposes, then, we don't consider H2O2 to be an acid".

looks like i got confused with h202 and silca, i knew one could be used as ph up ,now i know its not h202! lol

p.s good idea with the bloom booster test!
 
TorturedSoul said:
Like all things that are being "fed" to small plants with small root-systems. Makes sense.



Odd - that's why I always added it last (before adjusting pH, if needed). I wanted it to do it's breaking down while the plants were in the reservoir - or being fed from it - instead of having the process start while I was still mixing nutrients.

But then I was always crazy about getting DO into the reservoir anyway. "If it aint supersaturated, it aint enough."
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to be honest i am still leaning towards what ur saying makes sense. the whole reason i am adding it to my plants is for O2 for my roots. but i have also read H2O2 will put O2 in the roots for 3 days, so maybe a hour or 2 will be fine?


crazy horse said:
thats good info, all the debate and it can be added anytime lol

i was trying to find out if h202 was an acid or not, here is what i found...

"Now to your question. H2O2 is a very weak acid in water, much weaker than vinegar, but still 103 - 104 times stronger than water itself. For all practical purposes, then, we don't consider H2O2 to be an acid".

looks like i got confused with h202 and silca, i knew one could be used as ph up ,now i know its not h202! lol

p.s good idea with the bloom booster test!
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yup the silica will raise the PH on you and its hard to get it to go down. i guess its the price to pay for safety,lol
 
Irishboy said:
To be honest, i might take back that swamp cooler. it was working great the 1st few night but now it seems to have lost its will. the RH% isnt to high 20%. these things arnt cheap. i will wait until its in the 95's and give it 1 more go. its only been lowering the room 2-3F* lately, and 2-3F isnt worth the $150 i paid for it. tomorrow it should be pretty hot, so i will see.

by the way ive already hit the 100's and all it well with my girls, you running indica or sativa?
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Sucks about the swamp cooler....oh well at least you tried it. :) I bet i will hit the 100's any day now.

I have two XJ-13's (sativa dominant I think) and two Purple Kush's (indica). I was hoping to get all four similar in linage, but i need to grow indica and I have been hearing good things about the XJ-13 (you being one of them). I know you said you liked the smoke of the XJ. How has it cured now that some time has passed?

I figured that by having 2 lights and keeping some separation between them I could grow different strains easily. I hope i found the right level of separation (not to far or close to each other) so that both groups get some benefit from the other lights.

Irishboy said:
bro i would run some silica if i were you, its a really great product, the only down side is it raises ur PH pretty good.


i didn't add mine until 2 weeks or so. but i could swear Vipers was saying on here he added some to his baby clone because his roots were slimy, and it helped them out. ive also read others saying it help their clones root better, i am sure you just have to use low doses since their young. but i am not 100% sure? its my 1st time using it.
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I will definitely get some silica. My reservior temps are going to get pretty high. I need to do anything to protect those roots. :rasta:

Thanks for the info on the H2O2. I think I am going to add a low dosage and see what happens.
 
trichtone said:
Sucks about the swamp cooler....oh well at least you tried it. :) I bet i will hit the 100's any day now.

I have two XJ-13's (sativa dominant I think) and two Purple Kush's (indica). I was hoping to get all four similar in linage, but i need to grow indica and I have been hearing good things about the XJ-13 (you being one of them). I know you said you liked the smoke of the XJ. How has it cured now that some time has passed?

I figured that by having 2 lights and keeping some separation between them I could grow different strains easily. I hope i found the right level of separation (not to far or close to each other) so that both groups get some benefit from the other lights.


I will definitely get some silica. My reservior temps are going to get pretty high. I need to do anything to protect those roots. :rasta:

Thanks for the info on the H2O2. I think I am going to add a low dosage and see what happens.
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the XJ-13 is a bad ass strain and will most likely do better then the Purple kush in your heat. the smoke is great and your gonna love the smell. no for a heads up my XJ-13 doubled in height when i flowered her, but my Hindu skunk only grew 6" more. so you might have an uneven canopy. my more is all cure perfect and the smoke is no joke. you should really check out the hindu skunk strain some time its a very very good strain and love leds. the really cool thing about the XJ-13 is its pure buds with hardly know leafs. If you grow it right it will be one of your top strains ill put money on it.:thumb:

the good thing about having 2 lights is that you can keep on lower if needed from the canopy being uneven.

I will say when i feed my plants with the maxibloom, silica, and H2O2 then love it and go nutes. as of right now my plants are in tip top shape and happy as hell even with this heat. the sad thing is summer hasn't even hit yet.
 
hey if you guys want some good reading. research info on the order your nutes should be mixed. ever thought things were not being mixed in the right order and locking things? i am trying to find out witch order to add my Cal/Mag+? from what i read it should be added before the base nutes because when Phosphate is added 1st then cal mag its doest get along and locks each other out. cal always needs to be added before phosphate. thats why you always have to mix the Micro 1st before the grow or bloom on the 3 part seris. notice the micro has no [ Phosphate ? and the grow and bloom have no [Cal? I am telling you ive learn some crazy things on how every thing needs to be mixed a certain order or things get out of whack. cal also doest get along with sulfur, Cal needs to be mixed before this. also the order of nutes being mixed should be judge by the order it affects the PH. add one thing that will raise PH like silica, then something that will lower it and so on.

I encourage you guys to research this and if you find good info please post it on here to share with us.
 
Irishboy said:
hey if you guys want some good reading. research info on the order your nutes should be mixed. ever thought things were not being mixed in the right order and locking things? i am trying to find out witch order to add my Cal/Mag+? from what i read it should be added before the base nutes because when Phosphate is added 1st then cal mag its doest get along and locks each other out. cal always needs to be added before phosphate. thats why you always have to mix the Micro 1st before the grow or bloom on the 3 part seris. notice the micro has no [ Phosphate ? and the grow and bloom have no [I]Cal[/I]? I am telling you ive learn some crazy things on how every thing needs to be mixed a certain order or things get out of whack. cal also doest get along with sulfur, Cal needs to be mixed before this. also the order of nutes being mixed should be judge by the order it affects the PH. add one thing that will raise PH like silica, then something that will lower it and so on.

I encourage you guys to research this and if you find good info please post it on here to share with us.
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Good point. Understanding why the directions are what they are is as important as following those directions. After all, not everything in life includes handy instructions.
 
TorturedSoul said:
Good point. Understanding why the directions are what they are is as important as following those directions. After all, not everything in life includes handy instructions.
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exactly, just like when to add H2O2, Silica, and Cal/Mag+ to your nute soup. theres know handy directions on those ones. so if you understand what affects what then you will know how to mix your nutes.

Now i understand how my friend knew that i needed to mix the H2O2 1st then the Silica and then the base nutes. he under stood this and how they tie in
 
fuzzygrass said:
big mike posted a vid at the growers underground that House and Garden has a better product than his jump start FYI
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ok, ignorance showing here....who is big mike and where do i see the video, that im into....lavendar...t.i.a:yummy:
 
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