Yankeetoker's 2nd Grow Attempt - 2016 - All Advice Welcome!

yankeetoker said:
Good morning from the ladies.......:circle-of-love:

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Lexi....."born" 1/5 (Day 67)
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Bernie...."born" 1/6 (Day 66)
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Hope..."born" 2/2 (Day 39)
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They all seem to be doing well in the new soil and adjusting to the new lights. I attempted some LST a few days ago, but tape didn't hold quite like I had hoped. I will try again in a few days...

Since watering two nights ago, I have just been checking in on them and rotating pots under the lights. I know Lexi and Bernie should be much bigger at 66 and 67 days, but at least they're still here!:Love:
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Your girls are, indeed, growing slowly, but they are growing healthy.

They look marvelous :circle-of-love:


As I may have mentioned before, my girls start off very slow for about 40 days until I transplant - then they take off. This is something I struggle with. They always take off after transplant into my special soil. Some of this is the maturity of the plants and their roots. Some of this better growth is the soil.

Other's who grow from Doc Bud's soil, PeeJay's soil, or hydro get better growth from the beginning. You might consider Doc Bud's kit and kit soil (not expensive as compared to bottled nutrients) as you approach the time to transplant your girls into bigger pots.
 
Yankee I also have PJ's recipe and I really don't know much about Doc's other than there are drenches and ffoliars that go with it and to be honest... I have TBI from an assault and trying to keep all that straight would drive me crazy and with PJ soil all I have to do is add water... I have seen the buds from Doc's kit and there is no doubt they are amazing... and Doc is great at hand holding through the grow but I haven't seen him around as much... He may very well be and I just haven't seen him... anyhow if you do decide to try the PJ soil I will be happy to share the recipe with you... PJ is kinda MIA right now too and he is amazing at kinda working with what is easily available to you but mine is pretty straight forward cause I had to go get everything I needed anyhow.... I have never grown prettier and healthier girls than I'm growing right now in the PJ soil... Your girls are looking happy and healthy... I agree with Rad and I bet they are going to start to take off now....:goodjob:....:circle-of-love:
 
yankeetoker said:
Radogast....

Will definitely look into that soil. The plan is to transplant them into 3 gallon Smart pots as their final containers.

What is this "special soil" you make mention of? Is it a secret recipe or are you willing to share? :circle-of-love:
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My "special soil" is the 'Clackamas Coot' recipe from the build-a-soil website made with Coast-of-Maine Lobster Compost and worm castings, peat moss, and perlite. The recipe is a 'too hot' for seedlings, fine for vegging and flowering.

I mentioned PeeJay soil and Doc Bud kit because these are recipes with a long history of success on :420:
The cc-mix is making me happy after almost a year of continuous use, but I don't get the really good yields/high quality of the Doc Bud and PeeJay soils - yet :) Well I do get the high quality! Just not high quality and great yields at the same time - yet :)

As Denise mentions, the Doc Bud kit keeps you busy - too busy for me. I'm a lazy gardener. I just add water.
 
Radogast said:
My "special soil" is the 'Clackamas Coot' recipe from the build-a-soil website made with Coast-of-Maine Lobster Compost and worm castings, peat moss, and perlite. The recipe is a 'too hot' for seedlings, fine for vegging and flowering.

I mentioned PeeJay soil and Doc Bud kit because these are recipes with a long history of success on :420:
The cc-mix is making me happy after almost a year of continuous use, but I don't get the really good yields/high quality of the Doc Bud and PeeJay soils - yet :) Well I do get the high quality! Just not high quality and great yields at the same time - yet :)

As Denise mentions, the Doc Bud kit keeps you busy - too busy for me. I'm a lazy gardener. I just add water.
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I was checking out Build a Soil mixes and there was another that I liked. Might have to go ahead and order from them...
 
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Ok so the good news is Hope has roots coming through the bottom of her smart pot....the bad news is this problem developing on the leaves of Lexi (the most) and Hope ( to a lesser extent).

I tried to research, but came up with too much light. What else might it be?
 
yankeetoker said:
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Ok so the good news is Hope has roots coming through the bottom of her smart pot....the bad news is this problem developing on the leaves of Lexi (the most) and Hope ( to a lesser extent).

I tried to research, but came up with too much light. What else might it be?
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If these were leaves at the top of the plant I would say the plants might be root bound/having trouble getting nutrients.

Since these are leaves at the bottom of the plant - nevermind - knock them off when they look ugly. :)
Bottom leaves aren't very important.
 
Radogast said:
If these were leaves at the top of the plant I would say the plants might be root bound/having trouble getting nutrients.

Since these are leaves at the bottom of the plant - nevermind - knock them off when they look ugly. :)
Bottom leaves aren't very important.
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Thanks, I just didn't want to mess things up since they had been going so well. Whew! Also, the recipe that I posted is the new soil we were discussing. Is it suitable for seedlings through veg? Then would I need to transplant into a different soil?
 
yankeetoker said:
Thanks, I just didn't want to mess things up since they had been going so well. Whew! Also, the recipe that I posted is the new soil we were discussing. Is it suitable for seedlings through veg? Then would I need to transplant into a different soil?
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This recipe?

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At 1 Gallon lobster compost to 8 gallons inert ingredients (perlite and peat moss), this is about 'half strength' compared to the 1 gallon lobster compost +1 gallon worm compost to 7 gallons inert that I use in my permanent soil.

He needs to build a more compost heavy soil for his largest pot size, right Dennise?
 
Radogast said:
This recipe?

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At 1 Gallon lobster compost to 8 gallons inert ingredients (perlite and peat moss), this is about 'half strength' compared to the 1 gallon lobster compost +1 gallon worm compost to 7 gallons inert that I use in my permanent soil.

He needs to build a more compost heavy soil for his largest pot size, right Dennise?
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Yepper I would agree with this completely... We're on a roll Rad...:high-five: I think the problem of the leaves is exactly spot on with what Rad said and I couldn't agree more with his analysis of the soil....
I also agree your girls are looking so much better... you cana take a sign of relief and pat your self on the back now... Your on your way...:goodjob:....:circle-of-love:
 
If it were me I would add some worm castings, compost and rock phosphate but I don't want to step on any toes here and I have not ever used the lobster stuff... In my head I thinking the lobster stuff is what would replace my Yum-Yum as nutes... so with a little of this and a little of that I think you have a good start on a good soil...:straightface:....:circle-of-love:
 
Dennise said:
If it were me I would add some worm castings, compost and rock phosphate but I don't want to step on any toes here and I have not ever used the lobster stuff... In my head I thinking the lobster stuff is what would replace my Yum-Yum as nutes... so with a little of this and a little of that I think you have a good start on a good soil...:straightface:....:circle-of-love:
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I definitely like topdressing with earthworm castings and will probably do so when I water them next. The lobster compost is pretty rich stuff and caused my first batch of soil to be a bit too hot. PeeJay suggested this mix and things have been going well since. I appreciate all of you guys input, so please keep it comin :thumb:.....:circle-of-love:
 
Dennise said:
Yepper I would agree with this completely... We're on a roll Rad...:high-five: I think the problem of the leaves is exactly spot on with what Rad said and I couldn't agree more with his analysis of the soil....
I also agree your girls are looking so much better... you cana take a sign of relief and pat your self on the back now... Your on your way...:goodjob:....:circle-of-love:
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They are doing so much better! All three have roots starting to come out of the bottom and sides of their 1 gallon smart pots. Thanks again to you and Rad for taking a look and giving me your feedback.:thanks:.....:circle-of-love:
 
Dennise said:
Yepper I would agree with this completely... We're on a roll Rad...:high-five: I think the problem of the leaves is exactly spot on with what Rad said and I couldn't agree more with his analysis of the soil....
I also agree your girls are looking so much better... you cana take a sign of relief and pat your self on the back now... Your on your way...:goodjob:....:circle-of-love:
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PeeJay guided YankeeToker along to build a lobster compost based starter soil - one I am now copying :)


Dennise said:
If it were me I would add some worm castings, compost and rock phosphate but I don't want to step on any toes here and I have not ever used the lobster stuff... In my head I thinking the lobster stuff is what would replace my Yum-Yum as nutes... so with a little of this and a little of that I think you have a good start on a good soil...:straightface:....:circle-of-love:
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Somewhere back in this thread PeeJay characterised the Coast of Maine Lobster Compost as more of a soil amendment than a standard compost. Too much Lobster compost was holding these seedlings back from growing. There is nothing on the bag or website that gives N-P-K numbers.

But you know, PeeJay was doing some real strong mentoring on a couple of threads before taking time away.


yankeetoker said:
They are doing so much better! All three have roots starting to come out of the bottom and sides of their 1 gallon smart pots. Thanks again to you and Rad for taking a look and giving me your feedback.:thanks:.....:circle-of-love:
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It sounds like these girls are rooting very well. It seems like a good time to come up with the adult version of a soil.

YankeeToker - Are you planning on transplanting to larger pots? Did PeeJay recommend a soil mix?
 
Radogast said:
PeeJay guided YankeeToker along to build a lobster compost based starter soil - one I am now copying :)




Somewhere back in this thread PeeJay characterised the Coast of Maine Lobster Compost as more of a soil amendment than a standard compost. Too much Lobster compost was holding these seedlings back from growing. There is nothing on the bag or website that gives N-P-K numbers.

I remember PeeJay saying he wished he could get some of it....he liked the numbers and how the product was made.

But you know, PeeJay was doing some real strong mentoring on a couple of threads before taking time away.

He sure was....hope he's ok




It sounds like these girls are rooting very well. It seems like a good time to come up with the adult version of a soil.

YankeeToker - Are you planning on transplanting to larger pots? Did PeeJay recommend a soil mix?
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I plan on transplanting them to their final containers (3 gallon smart pots) and am not sure what I will be using. PeeJay hadn't recommended anything, so I was unsure. I'd like to continue using the Coast of Maine compost, I like what it does in my outdoor garden.
 
Yankee I don't have a clue what PJ would have told ya to do and I really wish PJ would check in... I have to admit I am starting to be a bit concerned... Several folks have tried to reach him to no avail and he disappears sometimes but not like this.... Rad should be able to walk you through a good mix... I wish I could... I just do what I have been told by PJ...:straightface: I know you should be able to just do a few ammendments on you veg soil and come up with a good bloom soil... Everything that is in my veg soil is in my bloom soil with just a few more things added.... I'm sorry I really wish I could be more help but this just isn't in my pee brain of knowledge...:circle-of-love:
 
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