Are you adding Cal-Mag to your R/O?
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Are you adding Cal-Mag to your R/O?
Just the Bloom, not the Booster... that could create an imbalance. There is no Mg in the Liquid Blue, but both are in the Bloom from the 3-part.
Also Mr. Krip brings up a good point... Cal-Mag is suggested in R/O rater since there is absolutely nothing in the water, but H2O.
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SauronBlue
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At first, I missed that detail, but since week 2-3 of veg, yes I have been adding cal-mag according to the bottle ~5ml/gal. I have also been adding thrive alive b-1 red(actually, I just realized that I ran out of B-1 red recently, but much later than the first plant started changing colors. Possibly around the time of the new plants turning), and Sugar Daddy.
I have noticed that since I have started using a bucket to mix, as opposed to bottles with caps, there is more algae growing in the bucket. I have asked the grow-store, and they recommended not keeping mixed nutes for more than a day, because they are not meant to be stored together. This made no sense to me, because hydro growers store their mixed nute res' for a week or more. At this point, a fellow shopper suggested putting an airstone in the bucket, and the salesperson agreed, even showed me some "soup" they have bubbling over. I have no idea how this relates to me, as my problem seems to be the added air - I want clean, non-stinky nutes with less "pulp" floating around, not enzyme soup. I have ignored the airstone idea. I never keep the nutes more than 2 days, and I keep the bucket loosely covered. I stir the mix with a wire whisk before feeding, and I rinse the bucket clean each Tuesday, when I flush with plain water. I never let nutes sit in the hose. When I open the tent, I generally smell the nute water(not a strong smell, but very different from the other smells in the tent) more strongly than the smell of bud. The only time the actual weed smell actually hits me, is right when the lights turn out, I get a waft of weed mixed with cut grass. I DO smell the buds when I hold them to my nose, but I expected the smell to be overpowering by now, what gives?
What was the question again?lol
I have noticed that since I have started using a bucket to mix, as opposed to bottles with caps, there is more algae growing in the bucket. I have asked the grow-store, and they recommended not keeping mixed nutes for more than a day, because they are not meant to be stored together. This made no sense to me, because hydro growers store their mixed nute res' for a week or more. At this point, a fellow shopper suggested putting an airstone in the bucket, and the salesperson agreed, even showed me some "soup" they have bubbling over. I have no idea how this relates to me, as my problem seems to be the added air - I want clean, non-stinky nutes with less "pulp" floating around, not enzyme soup. I have ignored the airstone idea. I never keep the nutes more than 2 days, and I keep the bucket loosely covered. I stir the mix with a wire whisk before feeding, and I rinse the bucket clean each Tuesday, when I flush with plain water. I never let nutes sit in the hose. When I open the tent, I generally smell the nute water(not a strong smell, but very different from the other smells in the tent) more strongly than the smell of bud. The only time the actual weed smell actually hits me, is right when the lights turn out, I get a waft of weed mixed with cut grass. I DO smell the buds when I hold them to my nose, but I expected the smell to be overpowering by now, what gives?
What was the question again?lol
Lol! Aren't Sativas great!? I take it you are using the organic line, then? Is your bucket white? Does it sit in the light if it is? There's your algae problem if it is.
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SauronBlue
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PS. I may be an idiot, and that's why no one is paying attention, but what gives with my rep points? I have asked this question all over the boards, and no one responded. I even started a thread just for this question, but nothing. Why do I keep losing rating squares? Is there some chart or guideline to how points are earned/ expire? I thought my point would just march steadily upwards as people give me likes or reps, but I once had 4-5 green boxes, now I have only 2. I now have almost 200 posts, but my rating is lower than when I had 50. Is there some eqaution of points/posts per day of membership, or what? Even if someone can point me in the right direction to find my own answer, that'd be great! Lots of questions in the last couple pages, I appreciate the answers to any of them - the more the better, please!!!
+rep, not likes add rep points.
as for the loss, have you asked the mods why this would happen?
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SauronBlue
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No organics, I'm using the 3-part. That's why the "pulp" is bothering me. I don't want things growing in my nutes, and I just want to make sure this isn't going to affect my babies. The bucket is all black, from the grwo-store, so It's made for similar applications. I keep i covered to reduce air/light, but it is not an air-tight seal. It is a light-proof seal. Could the nutes themselves be breaking down? I have noticed more grit/pulp coming out of some of the nute bottles as time goes along. The nutes stay in a cool, dark place - close at hand, but out of the tent.
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SauronBlue
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I messaged a moderator, she said she was going to message an admin, but that was weeks ago. I don't even know what the little boxes mean, but I know I had more of them.
No, it's probably just the bucket is contaminated somehow. I prescribe hot water and 1/2 cup of bleach. Let soak for 24 hours, then rinse three times, and let air dry. Just to be sure, you are adding the MICRO to the full amount of water used first, then the GROW to the water, then adding the BLOOM to the water, and not mixing the straight concentrates together? if mixed straight the nutes can and WILL react together and cause some problems, including precipitation of the minerals. That can look gunky.
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SauronBlue
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I always mix into water, leftover habits from chemistry class, but good to know not to pre-mix raw nutes. I have been adding grow, bloom, then boost every single time. I had no idea the boost went first. Does that really make a big difference? I just watered for today, but I'll use the new mix procedure tomorrow. I'll do the bleach/rinse after I water Monday, so I can let it dry over Tuesday.
Very strange side-note. I discovered a plant with no hole in the hempy pot. I noticed how fast it flooded, and pulled it to unblock the hole, only to find no hole! This plant is very healthy, I'm pretty amazed that It has gone this long with no drain, yet still looks so healthy. This is one of the B-team producers.
Very strange side-note. I discovered a plant with no hole in the hempy pot. I noticed how fast it flooded, and pulled it to unblock the hole, only to find no hole! This plant is very healthy, I'm pretty amazed that It has gone this long with no drain, yet still looks so healthy. This is one of the B-team producers.
SpiriTHC
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have you figured out how to deprive the mother from nitrogen using bpn before taking the cuttings?
Good on you for remembering "add to water, not, add water to." If anything splashes, it's mostly water water, and not much of the additive. Heheh, that actually made me smile to read it. You'd be surprised at what I've seen marred, mangled, destroyed, burned, melted, etc. by going the other way...
Not Boost- Micro, Bloom, Grow. Ten add your additives, or bloom boosters to the solution. The order, m/b/g, isn't critical, but I like to have my trace minerals in place and dissolved before adding anything else to keep chances of precipitation to a minimum. But it is critical to add them to the water 1 at a time, and not mix them all together before you put them in the water.
Mrgivemethat
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Nice grow sauron ive given u rep and good journal info too j2k3 u give some good advice very informative nice rep to u too im subbed and will be dropping in all the time 
Your plants are turning out dank! Glad jandre2k3 is helping you.
With the 2L it is best to flush once a week to prevent any lockout. When deficiency happens just flush a few gal through it and resume feeding the next day. Your experience will make the grow even better. Can't wait to see them.
With the 2L it is best to flush once a week to prevent any lockout. When deficiency happens just flush a few gal through it and resume feeding the next day. Your experience will make the grow even better. Can't wait to see them.
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SauronBlue
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Sorry to all who have left comments in the last month. I haven't really felt like being on the computer much. I learn a lot here, but the more I try to become a part of the community, the more I seem to argue with people, and I'm really not here for that. It put me off the whole scene for a while, but I have important info to add for my journal. I'm not taking or giving any blame, just stating the reason for my feelings. Sometimes 2 very nice people can be at very opposite ends of an argument - there's not always a villain. And it's not from one particular incident, but a culmination of small things. Anyways, I'm not upset or anything, just a little background on my abandonment.
I've harvested 16 plants and have 19 coming out in a few days. I went at least a week or two over, as evidenced by the late-bloom bananas all over the place. I was waiting for the trichs to be almost all amber to start flushing, rather than timing the flush to end at amber. curing is making an incredible difference in the taste and effect. I tried microwaving @ 40% for 45 sec at a time to test, but was very scared by the result(Is my crop crap?), but after letting it hang dry for 4 days(that's when my branches snapped) and jarring/burping for a week, my faith has been restored. Grass smell is gone, and the weed smell I've been waiting for is a little stronger than when on the plant. I can now feel a decent effect from smoking. I still have at least one week of cure to go, so I'm confident things will get even better. Right now it's on the level of the stuff around here that many sell as quality, but is really "mid-grade". I hope more moisture is drawn from the middle, as It's still damp in the grinder, yet brittle to the touch.
The long awaited numbers:
From those 16 top-performers, 2 were completely lost due to carelessness (holes not punched in hempy's, then died in end of flower when I noticed and bored holes. They instantly showed over-watering signs and turned brown, but I let them keep growing rather that toss them, as there were only a couple weeks of flower left), and 2 had their top colas burned by being allowed to stretch into the light(which gave a reaction quite similar to the drying/browning of the over-watered plants). So I'm left with 12 whole plants and 2 without the top colas. I got 120grams dried from those. I'm happy with anything over .25oz per plant for my first run. I have learned A LOT to make the next run that much better. I hope to get close to the same weight from the remaining 19, but they were the under-performers. I put a few of the plants from flower back into veg, and it's pretty amazing watching the bright green growth come twisting, busting out from between the buds. I now have 16 plants in veg. 2 of those are the new moms from seed (Pineapple Express and Purple Haze). The 3rd seedling is now in the flower tent, as the auto-AK was throwing pistils everywhere. Most of the remaining veg plants are still a ways away from giving clones, but I only plan on cloning out 2-4 of them anyways. It was more a test of possibility and health. I see no bananas on anything in the veg tent, and pistils on everything.
I have upgraded to a 3x3 drain table lifted by 2 sets of milk crates. I drilled a hole, and it drains into a bucket that I can dump every 2 weeks or so.
Needless to say, I am pretty psyched that on my first attempt, I have produced what I expect to finish as some very nice bud that would have cost me about $60 every 3.5g. That means that from less than half of a full tray of plants(14 out of over 40 that can fit) on my first run, the 120g I grew saved me about $2000 that I would've spent on weed, and I still have plants to chop next week, and I can continue running the system on the ~$1200 I put into everything. I put a rough estimate of about $300 per cycle of plants to cover electricity, nutes, water, soil, and wear/tear on lights/filters, etc. Not to mention, I now have an active role in supplying my own needs, rather than rely on some jerk who thinks he's Tony Montana to overcharge me, make me wait, and change quality/run out whenever. I think the risk of getting caught is pretty damn comparable to what you would have with meeting a dealer once a week to supply your needs, so that's a moot point. I think this is already well worth the investment for me, and I can only imagine things improving with time and experience.
Tent with new easier to adjust, oscillating fan.
Drain makes it easier to clean, just dump the bucket. Height saves my back
These are some healthy plants
The 3 plants on the right have been mistreated, see the brown?
This is the veg area
Auto's don't care about your light type or schedule
Detail on Pineapple Express
Beginning to revert to veg
Conversion well underway
Twins
Benny peeking out from behind the Pretty Buds
I had to invest in stakes for these lolipops
The most important part (Dry/Cure)
I've harvested 16 plants and have 19 coming out in a few days. I went at least a week or two over, as evidenced by the late-bloom bananas all over the place. I was waiting for the trichs to be almost all amber to start flushing, rather than timing the flush to end at amber. curing is making an incredible difference in the taste and effect. I tried microwaving @ 40% for 45 sec at a time to test, but was very scared by the result(Is my crop crap?), but after letting it hang dry for 4 days(that's when my branches snapped) and jarring/burping for a week, my faith has been restored. Grass smell is gone, and the weed smell I've been waiting for is a little stronger than when on the plant. I can now feel a decent effect from smoking. I still have at least one week of cure to go, so I'm confident things will get even better. Right now it's on the level of the stuff around here that many sell as quality, but is really "mid-grade". I hope more moisture is drawn from the middle, as It's still damp in the grinder, yet brittle to the touch.
The long awaited numbers:
From those 16 top-performers, 2 were completely lost due to carelessness (holes not punched in hempy's, then died in end of flower when I noticed and bored holes. They instantly showed over-watering signs and turned brown, but I let them keep growing rather that toss them, as there were only a couple weeks of flower left), and 2 had their top colas burned by being allowed to stretch into the light(which gave a reaction quite similar to the drying/browning of the over-watered plants). So I'm left with 12 whole plants and 2 without the top colas. I got 120grams dried from those. I'm happy with anything over .25oz per plant for my first run. I have learned A LOT to make the next run that much better. I hope to get close to the same weight from the remaining 19, but they were the under-performers. I put a few of the plants from flower back into veg, and it's pretty amazing watching the bright green growth come twisting, busting out from between the buds. I now have 16 plants in veg. 2 of those are the new moms from seed (Pineapple Express and Purple Haze). The 3rd seedling is now in the flower tent, as the auto-AK was throwing pistils everywhere. Most of the remaining veg plants are still a ways away from giving clones, but I only plan on cloning out 2-4 of them anyways. It was more a test of possibility and health. I see no bananas on anything in the veg tent, and pistils on everything.
I have upgraded to a 3x3 drain table lifted by 2 sets of milk crates. I drilled a hole, and it drains into a bucket that I can dump every 2 weeks or so.
Needless to say, I am pretty psyched that on my first attempt, I have produced what I expect to finish as some very nice bud that would have cost me about $60 every 3.5g. That means that from less than half of a full tray of plants(14 out of over 40 that can fit) on my first run, the 120g I grew saved me about $2000 that I would've spent on weed, and I still have plants to chop next week, and I can continue running the system on the ~$1200 I put into everything. I put a rough estimate of about $300 per cycle of plants to cover electricity, nutes, water, soil, and wear/tear on lights/filters, etc. Not to mention, I now have an active role in supplying my own needs, rather than rely on some jerk who thinks he's Tony Montana to overcharge me, make me wait, and change quality/run out whenever. I think the risk of getting caught is pretty damn comparable to what you would have with meeting a dealer once a week to supply your needs, so that's a moot point. I think this is already well worth the investment for me, and I can only imagine things improving with time and experience.
Tent with new easier to adjust, oscillating fan.
Drain makes it easier to clean, just dump the bucket. Height saves my back
These are some healthy plants
The 3 plants on the right have been mistreated, see the brown?
This is the veg area
Auto's don't care about your light type or schedule
Detail on Pineapple Express
Beginning to revert to veg
Conversion well underway
Twins
Benny peeking out from behind the Pretty Buds
I had to invest in stakes for these lolipops
The most important part (Dry/Cure)
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SauronBlue
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SpiriTHC: I have not learned any such trick, but I'm listening...
Jandre: It's funny the things we remember from school, right? PS, should I feel slighted that I'm not on Aston's BPN army list? It was last updated this month, I've been BPN 3-part from seedling. Is there a draft? Recruitment process? Can you put in a good word?
MrGimmeThat: Thanks for the comment!
Twelve12: I appreciate the input everyone has given from start to finish. I've been flushing with water on Tuesdays since week 1 of veg. I used FloraKleen once, then clean water for 7-10 days, then chop for final flush. I really miss your thread, still haven't checked in, hope the crazy ex- problem resolved itself!
Jandre: It's funny the things we remember from school, right? PS, should I feel slighted that I'm not on Aston's BPN army list? It was last updated this month, I've been BPN 3-part from seedling. Is there a draft? Recruitment process? Can you put in a good word?
MrGimmeThat: Thanks for the comment!
Twelve12: I appreciate the input everyone has given from start to finish. I've been flushing with water on Tuesdays since week 1 of veg. I used FloraKleen once, then clean water for 7-10 days, then chop for final flush. I really miss your thread, still haven't checked in, hope the crazy ex- problem resolved itself!
I just put in a recommendation for you.... Recruit... Expect a letter from the General soon.
Truth Seeker
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You know, the weirdest thing happened... I see this before I go through my PM's and I am sure that the subject titled Recommendation or something of the sort... that, that is what you were sending a PM about...
SauronBlue,
My most sincere apologies my brotha, I remember your enrollment application coming through my desk, I have been subbed since that application came through... So I started looking through the files, looking high and low on my desk??? not finding a thing... I found it though... It was behind the filing cabinet. MY BAD... with so many soldiers coming up these days, it is hard to keep track of them anymore, I have been seeing a lot of journals posting up with BPN in the title now. But there are so many I keep losing them as I go through many journals in a day.
I will correct my error by going back and finding your true rank in the list and post you up!
Again I am truly sorry about this mishap.
General Astonr420
EDIT: SauronBlue,
20. SauronBlue BPN 2-Part BlueMax 2L Hempy GLR
Correction has been made
SauronBlue,
My most sincere apologies my brotha, I remember your enrollment application coming through my desk, I have been subbed since that application came through... So I started looking through the files, looking high and low on my desk??? not finding a thing... I found it though... It was behind the filing cabinet. MY BAD... with so many soldiers coming up these days, it is hard to keep track of them anymore, I have been seeing a lot of journals posting up with BPN in the title now. But there are so many I keep losing them as I go through many journals in a day.
I will correct my error by going back and finding your true rank in the list and post you up!
Again I am truly sorry about this mishap.
General Astonr420
EDIT: SauronBlue,
20. SauronBlue BPN 2-Part BlueMax 2L Hempy GLR
Correction has been made
Congrats on your harvest. The 100 dollar bill can give wrong message to some, perhaps a more modest frame of reference could be use?
Right now I'm pausing my experiments for few years then resume with a forest size operation. Have not heard much from the ex, but will keep my guard up, and things safe.
Looking forward to your dry nugs. Perhaps you can enter them in NOTM after all the hard work you've put into this, show them off.
Right now I'm pausing my experiments for few years then resume with a forest size operation. Have not heard much from the ex, but will keep my guard up, and things safe.
Looking forward to your dry nugs. Perhaps you can enter them in NOTM after all the hard work you've put into this, show them off.
You know, the weirdest thing happened... I see this before I go through my PM's and I am sure that the subject titled Recommendation or something of the sort... that, that is what you were sending a PM about...
SauronBlue,
My most sincere apologies my brotha, I remember your enrollment application coming through my desk, I have been subbed since that application came through... So I started looking through the files, looking high and low on my desk??? not finding a thing... I found it though... It was behind the filing cabinet. MY BAD... with so many soldiers coming up these days, it is hard to keep track of them anymore, I have been seeing a lot of journals posting up with BPN in the title now. But there are so many I keep losing them as I go through many journals in a day.
I will correct my error by going back and finding your true rank in the list and post you up!
Again I am truly sorry about this mishap.
General Astonr420
EDIT: SauronBlue,
20. SauronBlue BPN 2-Part BlueMax 2L Hempy GLR
Correction has been made
Some corporal is gonna get smoked! Losing files like that.... COME ON!! Glad I was able to draw your attention to the matter... Thank you, General.