Woodsman's Northern Light #5 Grow

hi woods ,my friend,just a couple of comments on microwaving weed,i have done a few popcorn buds and if it reduces the potency,i couldn't handle it "full strength"LOL.
it gets smoother after a couple of hits and relight it.man do i love the white widow.:grinjoint:RoorRip

Hh, is your widow sativa or indica ??
 
If it stands up to a giant airliner, then it should work here. If not I could turn the music or TV up high to drown out any 'local interference'.



Ideally I'd start the regeneration inside under the MH, but I don't want to be 'up there' too much longer! Hopefully it will be alright in early season sunshine. They should produce massive buds since they did pretty good inside under my minimal lighting. I should probably keep them as low bushes like I normally do for a stealthier grow.



Thanks for the kind words Dude! Should be hacking very very soon. :rasta:

Woods,
I don't think you have time now to regenerate a plant to clone for outside. It takes about 5 weeks before you be able to start cloning and then another month for the clones to grow enough to plant. And damm, that's gonna put you into the last of june. And the wife's gonna want to know why that damm tent is still in the house. So i'd start germinating some seeds !!
 
,woods,
i have a very simple philosophy....i am allergic to metal, and i have a fear of the govt....since i cant wear jewelry, or afford it mostly, i buy seeds...it is still illegal to sprout or have seeds with fed. law, and import is horrid on the laws....soooo, i figure only a matter of time before they clamp down on the imports....i also know that anything i have, i cant take with me when i go to the great smoke out in the sky....sooo, i'm enjoying it now....i nearly died in '06, and still could at any moment with no warning, when i survived, the hubby asked me what i wanted to do....first off, learn to walk...18 mo.s...then raise weed and be a gentlewoman farmer....he thought i would want to travel....the only real traveling i want to do is in my mind...i get a mo. stipend, since the cause was work related....and i pay half the bills and seriously blow the other half....usually on mj products....some of my relatives think i should save it for a rainy day, huh....been there, done that...im ready for some sun...physically and mentally....and growing gives that to me...my hubby says it saved my life, it gave me something to do and care for, and it did...i am not yet in wheels as the drs. thot i would be, and i walk well, just not for distances...pain, i wont go there....went thru the spasms and screams, and am comming out the other side...once again thanks to this plant....soooo, i guess you could say, im spending my kids inheritance literally, enjoying life, and pretty much enjoying being in the moment, when i can keep my mind there....i felt i kinda owed the explaination, at times i come off as a spoiled brat, and i know it....i'm not....i just enjoy, and thank G. im with someone who gets joy from seeing my joy....yes, im all of their best customers....I LOVE it...was a working person all my life, poor, payday to payday, and i plan to stay that way, no matter how much i have to spend,lol... and i have left my hubby set for the rest of his life...with a good grow and enough money to survive on...i'm pure junk yard dog and proud of it....later, enjoy, lavendar....hope this keeps me from comming off as too spoiled and spendish.....thanks for the comment, it gave me an opportunity to explain,and no, i dont think you think im spoiled either....ever, L:yummy::yummy::peacetwo:

really looking forward to the outdoor grow and pics....i'm VERY happy for you, and it will be great to see some outdoor plants....watching omm's, jasons, lab rats also....and a few others....
 
woods,
sorry about the rant....or whatever it was....not aimed at any on the forum....more aimed at relatives and so called friends....guess they'll get over it (attitude) the same way they got into it....just felt the moment required it ...should have been on my thread....

so, what all did you decide to put out? have you tried the duck foot yet, hear they work well as deceptive plants...finally got a seed sprouted so am curious, but mine will have to be indoors....so would love to see an outdoors one some time....lavendar:thumb::peacetwo:
 
Woods,
I don't think you have time now to regenerate a plant to clone for outside. It takes about 5 weeks before you be able to start cloning and then another month for the clones to grow enough to plant. And damm, that's gonna put you into the last of june. And the wife's gonna want to know why that damm tent is still in the house. So i'd start germinating some seeds !!

Hey Puffer! I think you misunderstood me. I don't clone anything. I will 'regenerate' the NL's outside.

Regeneration:

Leaving a tiny flower or two as low on the plant and close to the main stem as possible. Right at the bottom if you can.

Harvest first generation plant (original plant) Chop everything (stems) off the rest of the plant above the tiny buds that you left intact.
You should seal the cut on the main stem.

Outside grows: (At start of grow season) Switch to your vegetative nutes, re-pot larger or prune your roots and pretend that you've got a brand new little girl. retain only 'one' new stem and grow it like you would normally grow a plant. Exactly like a new plant.

Indoor grows: Switch to MH or daylight CFL's. lengthen your daylight period back to your 'preferred' veg hours. Now you've got what looks like a 'stump with one or two ears' protruding off it. Add a shot of your favorite veg nutes and your tiny little bud or buds will sprout brand new vegetative growth.

Indoor or Outdoor: Retain only 'one' of the new vegetative growths. Remove all but one growth. That will be your main stem for your new plant.

If you don't want to fail, read this:

Don't waste energy on any additional new grow. You can scour the internet and most people regenerate by harvesting the tops only and then try to re-veg all 35 or so of the existing bud sites. If you had a few years, that may be OK, but most of us just want to re-grow a new plant (that's why your doing it). Harvest the original plant like normal, leaving at the very bottom of the main stem or offshoots, no more than two tiny buddlings. Very soon after they both start to grow, chop one of them off leaving only one grow site. This is your new 'main stem'. Do not waste time on two stems at the beginning. Just like a young plant, grow your three or four nodes before you do any FIM or cropping. You should have new vegetative growth within a week or two at most.

Note: I do not know which is best, to revert to your veg state indoors and then take the plant outside or like I will do (no choice) take the pot out immediately after harvest and regenerate the initial growth outside.

My 'guess' would be that getting the growth started indoors under controlled 'daylight hours' would be quicker than letting my 11 hours of early spring sunshine do it's work. You could run the lights for 24 hrs I guess. I wonder if even just 11 hours of sunlight is more effective than the 'extended' hours available indoors?

Comments:

woods,
i have a very simple philosophy....i am allergic to metal, and i have a fear of the govt....since i cant wear jewelry, or afford it mostly, i buy seeds...it is still illegal to sprout or have seeds with fed. law, and import is horrid on the laws....soooo, i figure only a matter of time before they clamp down on the imports....i also know that anything i have, i cant take with me when i go to the great smoke out in the sky....sooo, i'm enjoying it now....i nearly died in '06, and still could at any moment with no warning, when i survived, the hubby asked me what i wanted to do....first off, learn to walk...18 mo.s...then raise weed and be a gentlewoman farmer....he thought i would want to travel....the only real traveling i want to do is in my mind...i get a mo. stipend, since the cause was work related....and i pay half the bills and seriously blow the other half....usually on mj products....some of my relatives think i should save it for a rainy day, huh....been there, done that...im ready for some sun...physically and mentally....and growing gives that to me...my hubby says it saved my life, it gave me something to do and care for, and it did...i am not yet in wheels as the drs. thot i would be, and i walk well, just not for distances...pain, i wont go there....went thru the spasms and screams, and am comming out the other side...once again thanks to this plant....soooo, i guess you could say, im spending my kids inheritance literally, enjoying life, and pretty much enjoying being in the moment, when i can keep my mind there....i felt i kinda owed the explaination, at times i come off as a spoiled brat, and i know it....i'm not....i just enjoy, and thank G. im with someone who gets joy from seeing my joy....yes, im all of their best customers....I LOVE it...was a working person all my life, poor, payday to payday, and i plan to stay that way, no matter how much i have to spend,lol... and i have left my hubby set for the rest of his life...with a good grow and enough money to survive on...i'm pure junk yard dog and proud of it....later, enjoy, lavendar....hope this keeps me from comming off as too spoiled and spendish.....thanks for the comment, it gave me an opportunity to explain....ever, L:yummy::yummy::peacetwo:

really looking forward to the outdoor grow and pics....i'm VERY happy for you, and it will be great to see some outdoor plants....watching omm's also....and a few others....

Hi Lav, Hey , no way would I think your a 'spoiled brat'! You are a very hard worker and super dedicated. I have to go back and see what I wrote that gave you that impression? You are a 'hero' of mine (gush) You are no way a spoiled girl! If only I could grow with the vitality that you do after all you've been through. Heck If I was you, I would do the same, well maybe a 1/4 of what you do!:rasta:
 
woods,
sorry about the rant....or whatever it was....not aimed at any on the forum....more aimed at relatives and so called friends....guess they'll get over it (attitude) the same way they got into it....just felt the moment required it ...should have been on my thread....

so, what all did you decide to put out? have you tried the duck foot yet, hear they work well as deceptive plants...finally got a seed sprouted so am curious, but mine will have to be indoors....so would love to see an outdoors one some time....lavendar:thumb::peacetwo:

Hey Lavendar! I missed your last couple of posts while I was composing the above 'novelette' on regeneration.

Potted my three Mazars last night. May have lost a few of the bagseed babies though do to 'excessive wind' yesterday. Blown over and crimped bad. Got several of those left though. I'll move the NL#5's outside to regenerate just as soon as they get harvested. Should be very very soon!
 
Hey Lavendar! I missed your last couple of posts while I was composing the above 'novelette' on regeneration.

Potted my three Mazars last night. May have lost a few of the bagseed babies though do to 'excessive wind' yesterday. Blown over and crimped bad. Got several of those left though. I'll move the NL#5's outside to regenerate just as soon as they get harvested. Should be very very soon!

soooo, how do you regenerate? im doing something wrong when i try it....they look at me and laugh and slowly die....do you repot, nitrogen, ect: all ive been doing it giving it reg. fert and put back in the veg room....i just noticed the below on it, so let me read before you answer, as you prob. answered all the questions i had....whoops....later, lavendar
and....the answers were all there....thank you for a great post....i was trying to get too many shoots to regenerate....hey, im celebrating, one of my clones lived, an O.J. just the one i wanted badly.....took some pics today of the new metal braces on two of the girls and twisted limbs, gee i sure feel bad doing it, but it seems to work...
did you try to splint the stems....i use toothpicks or kabob sticks and tape and string....my hubby bless his heart, is like a bull in a china shop.....so i get practice when he tries to help "inside" the room....he made a long stick with a cup on the end to water with....only safe way for him....i finally had to ask him to please not go in there anymore....this time i have twisted and bent stems all over the place....not fun...just too tall this time...i goofed it up...hey, i got outdoor seeds i'll never use...got them at a 420 party....too bad we're not closer, lavendar
 
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: Thats hillarious. Your hubby has to use a stick witha cup on it. hahahahahaha.......I picture him sticking his tongue out in concentration with a little measuring cup duct taped to a broomstick trying to water yer plants. ahahahahhaaa.........funny funny. You actually made me cry laughing. oohh man. Thats why my gardens off limits but to me.

I needed that. thanx Lav.
 
soooo, how do you regenerate? im doing something wrong when i try it....they look at me and laugh and slowly die....do you repot, nitrogen, ect: all ive been doing it giving it reg. fert and put back in the veg room....i just noticed the below on it, so let me read before you answer, as you prob. answered all the questions i had....whoops....later, lavendar
and....the answers were all there....thank you for a great post....i was trying to get too many shoots to regenerate....hey, im celebrating, one of my clones lived, an O.J. just the one i wanted badly.....took some pics today of the new metal braces on two of the girls and twisted limbs, gee i sure feel bad doing it, but it seems to work...
did you try to splint the stems....i use toothpicks or kabob sticks and tape and string....my hubby bless his heart, is like a bull in a china shop.....so i get practice when he tries to help "inside" the room....he made a long stick with a cup on the end to water with....only safe way for him....i finally had to ask him to please not go in there anymore....this time i have twisted and bent stems all over the place....not fun...just too tall this time...i goofed it up...hey, i got outdoor seeds i'll never use...got them at a 420 party....too bad we're not closer, lavendar

Congratulations on your cloning success! :thumb: I'll have to check your stuff out.

I also use toothpicks or in this case, some dry twigs from an old plant. Unfortunately though they weren't enough. Yesterday there must have been 60 70 mile an hour gusts out here and I was out most of the day! I'd been bringing them in every night and I would have brought them in yesterday had I been there.

It may hurt his feelings if you don't let him in. Just try explaining it to him. No... OK, kick him out!

Thanks for the thought Lavendar. I don't think I would be able to grow all 'outdoor seeds' though. Northern latitudes and a need to finish by mid Oct.

Thanks for the regen post...glad I popped in when I did! Supposed to have some feminized seeds on my plant but I may try to reveg her after harvest. I have no buds or anything growing near the main stem so we'll see how that goes. Tried to rep you but I couldn't :(

Don't worry about the Reps Lil, it's the thought that counts!.

I'd use the lowest grow point possible even if it's up one of the branches. By the way, I didn't mean when I was explaining up above that the grow site had to be on the bottom of the main stem. If you FIM,LST or crop, then you may not have any buds growing on the bottom of the main stem. Also, all you need to regen is any live growth even a tiny tiny set of leaves with a couple of hairs on it. Sometimes these tiny appendages are removed by growers while tidying up the plant while it's growing. I will be posting photos of Fatleaf as I set her up for regeneration. I'll be posting some surprises for you all, very very soon.
 
RoorRipHey there Woods...here is tipping a bowl at ya....:bong:.

How does this fine spring day find you? Great explanation on re-vegging! What do you seal your stem with when you harvest the branches?

My thoughts were to cut the stem down a bit but not all the way through and leave a flap, then fold that flap over and tape it. But there has to be an easier way....:smokin2:

:peace: my friend.
 
,woods,
i have a very simple philosophy....i am allergic to metal, and i have a fear of the govt....since i cant wear jewelry, or afford it mostly, i buy seeds...it is still illegal to sprout or have seeds with fed. law, and import is horrid on the laws....soooo, i figure only a matter of time before they clamp down on the imports....i also know that anything i have, i cant take with me when i go to the great smoke out in the sky....sooo, i'm enjoying it now....i nearly died in '06, and still could at any moment with no warning, when i survived, the hubby asked me what i wanted to do....first off, learn to walk...18 mo.s...then raise weed and be a gentlewoman farmer....he thought i would want to travel....the only real traveling i want to do is in my mind...i get a mo. stipend, since the cause was work related....and i pay half the bills and seriously blow the other half....usually on mj products....some of my relatives think i should save it for a rainy day, huh....been there, done that...im ready for some sun...physically and mentally....and growing gives that to me...my hubby says it saved my life, it gave me something to do and care for, and it did...i am not yet in wheels as the drs. thot i would be, and i walk well, just not for distances...pain, i wont go there....went thru the spasms and screams, and am comming out the other side...once again thanks to this plant....soooo, i guess you could say, im spending my kids inheritance literally, enjoying life, and pretty much enjoying being in the moment, when i can keep my mind there....i felt i kinda owed the explaination, at times i come off as a spoiled brat, and i know it....i'm not....i just enjoy, and thank G. im with someone who gets joy from seeing my joy....yes, im all of their best customers....I LOVE it...was a working person all my life, poor, payday to payday, and i plan to stay that way, no matter how much i have to spend,lol... and i have left my hubby set for the rest of his life...with a good grow and enough money to survive on...i'm pure junk yard dog and proud of it....later, enjoy, lavendar....hope this keeps me from comming off as too spoiled and spendish.....thanks for the comment, it gave me an opportunity to explain,and no, i dont think you think im spoiled either....ever, L:yummy::yummy::peacetwo:

really looking forward to the outdoor grow and pics....i'm VERY happy for you, and it will be great to see some outdoor plants....watching omm's, jasons, lab rats also....and a few others....

The outdoor journals are the best !! Don't seem to be a lot of outdoor journals this yr. ?? My old legs wont carry my fat ass there anymore, and I miss those days !! Damm, that was fun !!
 
Hey Puffer! I think you misunderstood me. I don't clone anything. I will 'regenerate' the NL's outside.

Regeneration:

Leaving a tiny flower or two as low on the plant and close to the main stem as possible. Right at the bottom if you can.

Harvest first generation plant (original plant) Chop everything (stems) off the rest of the plant above the tiny buds that you left intact.
You should seal the cut on the main stem.

Outside grows: (At start of grow season) Switch to your vegetative nutes, re-pot larger or prune your roots and pretend that you've got a brand new little girl. retain only 'one' new stem and grow it like you would normally grow a plant. Exactly like a new plant.

Indoor grows: Switch to MH or daylight CFL's. lengthen your daylight period back to your 'preferred' veg hours. Now you've got what looks like a 'stump with one or two ears' protruding off it. Add a shot of your favorite veg nutes and your tiny little bud or buds will sprout brand new vegetative growth.

Indoor or Outdoor: Retain only 'one' of the new vegetative growths. Remove all but one growth. That will be your main stem for your new plant.

If you don't want to fail, read this:

Don't waste energy on any additional new grow. You can scour the internet and most people regenerate by harvesting the tops only and then try to re-veg all 35 or so of the existing bud sites. If you had a few years, that may be OK, but most of us just want to re-grow a new plant (that's why your doing it). Harvest the original plant like normal, leaving at the very bottom of the main stem or offshoots, no more than two tiny buddlings. Very soon after they both start to grow, chop one of them off leaving only one grow site. This is your new 'main stem'. Do not waste time on two stems at the beginning. Just like a young plant, grow your three or four nodes before you do any FIM or cropping. You should have new vegetative growth within a week or two at most.

Note: I do not know which is best, to revert to your veg state indoors and then take the plant outside or like I will do (no choice) take the pot out immediately after harvest and regenerate the initial growth outside.

My 'guess' would be that getting the growth started indoors under controlled 'daylight hours' would be quicker than letting my 11 hours of early spring sunshine do it's work. You could run the lights for 24 hrs I guess. I wonder if even just 11 hours of sunlight is more effective than the 'extended' hours available indoors?

Comments:



Hi Lav, Hey , no way would I think your a 'spoiled brat'! You are a very hard worker and super dedicated. I have to go back and see what I wrote that gave you that impression? You are a 'hero' of mine (gush) You are no way a spoiled girl! If only I could grow with the vitality that you do after all you've been through. Heck If I was you, I would do the same, well maybe a 1/4 of what you do!:rasta:
Woods,
That's not how i did mine, but maybe your way is better. I left as many branches as possible, with a couple of popcorn buds left on each branch. I just don't understand why you'd want to cut it back to just a sprout ? But i've never did it outside, and you're probably right !! By the way, the buds you leave on the plant will cure on the plant and are good smoke !! But outside, the wind might strip them ?? I have a regenerated plant in my photo gallery, if you'd like to look.:peacetwo:
 
RoorRipHey there Woods...here is tipping a bowl at ya....:bong:.

How does this fine spring day find you? Great explanation on re-vegging! What do you seal your stem with when you harvest the branches?

My thoughts were to cut the stem down a bit but not all the way through and leave a flap, then fold that flap over and tape it. But there has to be an easier way....:smokin2:

:peace: my friend.

The outdoor journals are the best !! Don't seem to be a lot of outdoor journals this yr. ?? My old legs wont carry my fat ass there anymore, and I miss those days !! Damm, that was fun !!

Woods,
That's not how i did mine, but maybe your way is better. I left as many branches as possible, with a couple of popcorn buds left on each branch. I just don't understand why you'd want to cut it back to just a sprout ? But i've never did it outside, and you're probably right !! By the way, the buds you leave on the plant will cure on the plant and are good smoke !! But outside, the wind might strip them ?? I have a regenerated plant in my photo gallery, if you'd like to look.:peacetwo:

Woodsman What a great journal you have.:thumb:
Just be reading a few pages and they were full of good info and great stories.
I'm always happier when I leave. Can't wait for the surprises you have for us!
Your friend OMM. :thumb:

Hello my good friends! I've been very naughty these last couple of days! You'll find out what I've done later today. If it wasn't for my wife asking me to do this and could you do that, You would all no by now what I've done! Got tons of stuff to write and pics to post!

Mountain, I am using Bag Balm (cubed can) just like Vaseline to plug the ends.

:passitleft:

Hello Puffer! Your guess is as good as mine whether these ladies will regenerate outside! I will be trying one of them inside the tent as long as the Runt is in there. I'll only be able to run 12 hours days though, veg nutes and MH will be applied. If you post a link to your photos, I'd be glad to take a look. Look I'm not an expert on regeneration, but I have read much on it and I did it myself many years ago (indoor) with the help of a good teacher. Worked fabulously! Outdoors will be a new experience, almost an experiment you could say. As far as 'how much to leave on the plant' I can only tell you what I've observed on the net. Everytime I've seen it regenerated by leaving 'many' grow sites on the plant, has resulted in either, abandoning the effort completely because it's just taking too long, or, just taking to darn long! I was taught to use only a minimal amount of grow sites as low to the bottom as possible. This makes it easier for the plant (less work) and is faster (than growing from seed and apparently from growing with many bud sites. I've seen these many sited efforts and they tend to be very odd looking plants! I'll have to see yours. With the technique I am stressing, you will end up with a normal plant with normal growth, without having to plant the seed, wait for it to mature enough so you can fertilize (right away I will be adding veg nutes and those of you that have stuff like 'grow big' or something like it can 'go for it' right away. So it's like starting a grow by skipping the entire first 2 to 3 weeks. Oh ya forgot, it's already a female! Clone all you want!

:passitleft:


OMM my good friend! Nice to see you always. I have a big surprise coming up for all to see! Unfortunately we all know how long it takes to post a lot of stuff on this site! I have a few different 'topics' also.

:passitleft:
I'll be off for a little while while I do some work! See ya all later!.......:rasta:
 
Hello my good friends! I've been very naughty these last couple of days! You'll find out what I've done later today. If it wasn't for my wife asking me to do this and could you do that, You would all no by now what I've done! Got tons of stuff to write and pics to post!

Mountain, I am using Bag Balm (cubed can) just like Vaseline to plug the ends.

:passitleft:

Hello Puffer! Your guess is as good as mine whether these ladies will regenerate outside! I will be trying one of them inside the tent as long as the Runt is in there. I'll only be able to run 12 hours days though, veg nutes and MH will be applied. If you post a link to your photos, I'd be glad to take a look. Look I'm not an expert on regeneration, but I have read much on it and I did it myself many years ago (indoor) with the help of a good teacher. Worked fabulously! Outdoors will be a new experience, almost an experiment you could say. As far as 'how much to leave on the plant' I can only tell you what I've observed on the net. Everytime I've seen it regenerated by leaving 'many' grow sites on the plant, has resulted in either, abandoning the effort completely because it's just taking too long, or, just taking to darn long! I was taught to use only a minimal amount of grow sites as low to the bottom as possible. This makes it easier for the plant (less work) and is faster (than growing from seed and apparently from growing with many bud sites. I've seen these many sited efforts and they tend to be very odd looking plants! I'll have to see yours. With the technique I am stressing, you will end up with a normal plant with normal growth, without having to plant the seed, wait for it to mature enough so you can fertilize (right away I will be adding veg nutes and those of you that have stuff like 'grow big' or something like it can 'go for it' right away. So it's like starting a grow by skipping the entire first 2 to 3 weeks. Oh ya forgot, it's already a female! Clone all you want!

:passitleft:


OMM my good friend! Nice to see you always. I have a big surprise coming up for all to see! Unfortunately we all know how long it takes to post a lot of stuff on this site! I have a few different 'topics' also.

:passitleft:
I'll be off for a little while while I do some work! See ya all later!.......:rasta:

Just click on gallerys, and then click on member galleries, and click on the S and then click on slowpuffer. And you see them !!
 
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